Final Fantasy Fans Boo Xbox 360 at London Event

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Seldon2639 said:
Also, can you name the last console FF game which was "designed for all systems available?" I can't either. If what you're saying is that Square-Enix has designed games for other systems, you're correct, but the Final Fantasy series is as iconically Playstation as the Halo games are Xbox
They're more iconic for the Nintendo really, it had more of the FF series back in the day.

But all this seems to come down to is the fans whining that it's not on the PS3 only, boo-fucking-hoo, grow up kids, if Halo was on the PS3 or God of War on the X-Box or Zelda on the PC why would you care so much? If a game goes multiplatform and you ownonly a PS3 or only a 360 buy it for the concole you own don't ***** thats it's not excusive because end of the day, these guys make money you're not gonna change the world with your little crusade for excusivity.

So come on folks buy it for what console you want, play it enjoy it and chillax.
 

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So let m get this straight... they are booing because the free prize is not something that they want? Did they through a tantrum at Christmas presents they didn't like too? I sense many kids (act like one, get labelled as one, chronological age be damned) who needed Mummy or Daddy to sit them down and teach them to be grateful and not spoiled little cunts.
 

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BOOOO!!!
A FREE VIDEOGAME CONSOLE!!!
BOOOO!!!
I AM AN UPPER-MIDDLE-CLASS WHITE SUBURBANITE WHO HAS THE LUXURY OF BRAND AFFILIATION AND SEVERE PROBLEMS WITH DISPROPORTIONATE LEVELS OF RAGE, BOOOOOO-OOOOOOO!!!
 

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Jamiemitsu said:
Heh, I probably would have booed, too.

I mean, FFXIII was originally meant to be a ps3 exclusive, and there are TV ads in the uk which only acknowledge the 360, almost as if its an xbox exclusive.
I don't really understand the purpose of exclusives. Why do game designers only release games for one console (especially the PS3), when they could in theory double their money by releasing it for both? I wouldn't care one bit if there were no exclusives. In fact, there are many games that I would buy if released for the 360. So, why do people feel the need to restrain a good game to only one console?
 

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Calumon: Why can't we all play together?
Because Calumon, idiots will always outnumber intelligent people.ALWAYS.

OT:I was sorta surprised when I first heard that FF XIII.Because the FF franchise has been mostly on the sony consoles.But I did in no way imagine that some people would go to such fanshit extremes.
 

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The Hairminator said:
Belladonnah said:
It could also be that the x360 version is terribly worse than the PS3 version. And that the PS3 version could have been even better if they didn't have to reduce the quality of the game for it to support x360, which ended up with a worse version anyway, so what's the point.
And just how is it terribly worse?
Frankly, I don't see a lot of difference graphically, but maybe that's just me.

And the rest of what you're saying seems a whole lot like blatant fanboyism to me. Do you have a source on it or is it just your own expert opinion based on the religion around your precious console?
Well, if you can't say the difference between native resolution of 720p and 576p during gameplay, and between 1080p cutscenes and 576p cutscenes (which are a huge part of the game, theres 12 hours worth), then it probably doesn't have a difference at all for you. But I can see the difference clearly. Oh, and despite huge differences in resolution, they play at the same framerate.

the x360 version is 18.3Gb. The PS3 version is 39.4Gb.

You can see indepth comparison on Lens of Truth http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=18555&page=2

Even loading times are faster on PS3, despite it being on blu-ray. "Apparently Square didn?t get the memo that Blu-Ray is supposed to be slower."
 

The Hairminator

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Belladonnah said:
The Hairminator said:
Belladonnah said:
It could also be that the x360 version is terribly worse than the PS3 version. And that the PS3 version could have been even better if they didn't have to reduce the quality of the game for it to support x360, which ended up with a worse version anyway, so what's the point.
And just how is it terribly worse?
Frankly, I don't see a lot of difference graphically, but maybe that's just me.

And the rest of what you're saying seems a whole lot like blatant fanboyism to me. Do you have a source on it or is it just your own expert opinion based on the religion around your precious console?
Well, if you can't say the difference between native resolution of 720p and 576p during gameplay, and between 1080p cutscenes and 576p cutscenes (which are a huge part of the game, theres 12 hours worth), then it probably doesn't have a difference at all for you. But I can see the difference clearly. Oh, and despite huge differences in resolution, they play at the same framerate.

the x360 version is 18.3Gb. The PS3 version is 39.4Gb.

You can see indepth comparison on Lens of Truth http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=18555&page=2

Even loading times are faster on PS3, despite it being on blu-ray. "Apparently Square didn?t get the memo that Blu-Ray is supposed to be slower."
I'm pretty sure the 360 operates up to 1080p as well.
 

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The Hairminator said:
Belladonnah said:
The Hairminator said:
Belladonnah said:
It could also be that the x360 version is terribly worse than the PS3 version. And that the PS3 version could have been even better if they didn't have to reduce the quality of the game for it to support x360, which ended up with a worse version anyway, so what's the point.
And just how is it terribly worse?
Frankly, I don't see a lot of difference graphically, but maybe that's just me.

And the rest of what you're saying seems a whole lot like blatant fanboyism to me. Do you have a source on it or is it just your own expert opinion based on the religion around your precious console?
Well, if you can't say the difference between native resolution of 720p and 576p during gameplay, and between 1080p cutscenes and 576p cutscenes (which are a huge part of the game, theres 12 hours worth), then it probably doesn't have a difference at all for you. But I can see the difference clearly. Oh, and despite huge differences in resolution, they play at the same framerate.

the x360 version is 18.3Gb. The PS3 version is 39.4Gb.

You can see indepth comparison on Lens of Truth http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=18555&page=2

Even loading times are faster on PS3, despite it being on blu-ray. "Apparently Square didn?t get the memo that Blu-Ray is supposed to be slower."
I'm pretty sure the 360 operates up to 1080p as well.
There's a difference between 1080p native resolution and 576p native resolution upscaled to 1080p. Also, the 2x anti-aliasing is applied on PS3 after 1080p upscale, while it is applied at 576p on x360 before the upscale.

The difference in cutscenes is similar to a comparison between a PAL DVD and a blu-ray Movie. It's not as extreme during gameplay, but still very noticeable.

Source:
http://gamernode.com/news/8812-final-fantasy-xiii-for-xbox-360-not-in-true-hd/index.html

Pretty sure it's also on wikipedia, that's where I read it first.
 

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Boo! The game is more accessible and available to everyone! Damn them!
 

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Belladonnah said:
The Hairminator said:
Belladonnah said:
The Hairminator said:
Belladonnah said:
It could also be that the x360 version is terribly worse than the PS3 version. And that the PS3 version could have been even better if they didn't have to reduce the quality of the game for it to support x360, which ended up with a worse version anyway, so what's the point.
And just how is it terribly worse?
Frankly, I don't see a lot of difference graphically, but maybe that's just me.

And the rest of what you're saying seems a whole lot like blatant fanboyism to me. Do you have a source on it or is it just your own expert opinion based on the religion around your precious console?
Well, if you can't say the difference between native resolution of 720p and 576p during gameplay, and between 1080p cutscenes and 576p cutscenes (which are a huge part of the game, theres 12 hours worth), then it probably doesn't have a difference at all for you. But I can see the difference clearly. Oh, and despite huge differences in resolution, they play at the same framerate.

the x360 version is 18.3Gb. The PS3 version is 39.4Gb.

You can see indepth comparison on Lens of Truth http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=18555&page=2

Even loading times are faster on PS3, despite it being on blu-ray. "Apparently Square didn?t get the memo that Blu-Ray is supposed to be slower."
I'm pretty sure the 360 operates up to 1080p as well.
There's a difference between 1080p native resolution and 576p native resolution upscaled to 1080p. Also, the 2x anti-aliasing is applied on PS3 after 1080p upscale, while it is applied at 576p on x360 before the upscale.

The difference in cutscenes is similar to a comparison between a PAL DVD and a blu-ray Movie. It's not as extreme during gameplay, but still very noticeable.

Source:
http://gamernode.com/news/8812-final-fantasy-xiii-for-xbox-360-not-in-true-hd/index.html

Pretty sure it's also on wikipedia, that's where I read it first.
Do yourself a favor. Go to the gallery section of the lens of truth page and go 5 down and one over and look at the picture, the one with the chocobo in the hands. What do the fingers look like in BOTH pictures? Fingers that were made using scissors. I had really thought that game developers had learned by now that fingers are supposed to be round... It really doesn't matter which you get, they are the same game in different quality. I am just grateful I don't have to buy a ps3 to play it. :)
 

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So, getting the version that is noticeably worse isn't grounds for vocalizing displeasure? If someone handed me a broken GPU as a prize I wouldn't be very happy about it.
 

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Random Bobcat said:
Wow, normally I have an open mind regarding people's feelings (even one dimensional, pointless console hate) but this is a little much.

I've played each iteration of FF (bar Dirge of Cerberus and a couple of others) and the fact it came to the 360 made no difference to me.

Believing the 360 version has been "scaled down" is pathetic as well - unless you're playing FFXIII on the same two TVs, at the same point in the game on the separate consoles side by side you won't notice the difference. It's minute to the extent of not being mentionable.

But I guess it makes you look a little more intelligent if you have a "reason" for such trivial items.
It isn't about believing it or not, it is a fact. Just looking at captures of the game you can see the difference. In a game that depends so much on visuals you are going to notice that the game doesn't look as good even without being able to see both side by side. It's fairly easy to see things like compression artifacts on an HD display.
 

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quick_lurch said:
Belladonnah said:
The Hairminator said:
Belladonnah said:
The Hairminator said:
Belladonnah said:
It could also be that the x360 version is terribly worse than the PS3 version. And that the PS3 version could have been even better if they didn't have to reduce the quality of the game for it to support x360, which ended up with a worse version anyway, so what's the point.
And just how is it terribly worse?
Frankly, I don't see a lot of difference graphically, but maybe that's just me.

And the rest of what you're saying seems a whole lot like blatant fanboyism to me. Do you have a source on it or is it just your own expert opinion based on the religion around your precious console?
Well, if you can't say the difference between native resolution of 720p and 576p during gameplay, and between 1080p cutscenes and 576p cutscenes (which are a huge part of the game, theres 12 hours worth), then it probably doesn't have a difference at all for you. But I can see the difference clearly. Oh, and despite huge differences in resolution, they play at the same framerate.

the x360 version is 18.3Gb. The PS3 version is 39.4Gb.

You can see indepth comparison on Lens of Truth http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=18555&page=2

Even loading times are faster on PS3, despite it being on blu-ray. "Apparently Square didn?t get the memo that Blu-Ray is supposed to be slower."
I'm pretty sure the 360 operates up to 1080p as well.
There's a difference between 1080p native resolution and 576p native resolution upscaled to 1080p. Also, the 2x anti-aliasing is applied on PS3 after 1080p upscale, while it is applied at 576p on x360 before the upscale.

The difference in cutscenes is similar to a comparison between a PAL DVD and a blu-ray Movie. It's not as extreme during gameplay, but still very noticeable.

Source:
http://gamernode.com/news/8812-final-fantasy-xiii-for-xbox-360-not-in-true-hd/index.html

Pretty sure it's also on wikipedia, that's where I read it first.
Do yourself a favor. Go to the gallery section of the lens of truth page and go 5 down and one over and look at the picture, the one with the chocobo in the hands. What do the fingers look like in BOTH pictures? Fingers that were made using scissors. I had really thought that game developers had learned by now that fingers are supposed to be round... It really doesn't matter which you get, they are the same game in different quality. I am just grateful I don't have to buy a ps3 to play it. :)
I played Bayonetta on the PS3 aswell and it was clearly worse than the x360 version. And I was glad I could play it, since it was still a great game, even tho I would have gotten it on x360 if I had one.

I'm just pointing out that there is a reason why the fans boo'ed. Why offer an inferior version of the game to hardcore fans, specially since they've been playing it on another console for like a decade?
If Halo: Reach was released for the PS3 aswell, as an inferior version, and someone offered it on a Halo fans Event, I'm pretty sure the reaction would be the same. Actually, even if the PS3 version was extremely superior, the reaction would still be the same.