Final Fantasy VII Remake Would Take Too Long to Develop

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GamerMage said:
(cough) bullcrap (cough)
Agreed.

Let's put this in perspective: with a third of the team that Square had for FFXIII, and in the same timeframe as its development took, Naughty Dog made both Uncharted games. With a comparable team, Bioware made both Mass Effect games, and somewhere in there Ubisoft found the time to build Florence, among other heavily populated Italian renaissance cities, AND make them a hundred times more interactive than Square's ever made a single room.

No single area in FFVII is bigger than a multiplayer map in Unreal Tournament, and they HAVE the pre-rendered maps to act as blueprints for them and pick and choose repeated assets, not to mention the entire script to the game and its original gameplay design to work from. They don't even have to DESIGN anything, just make it. They could easily cut out all the time they wasted with FF12 and 13 waffling around, trying to decide what the games would be, and changing their mind every few months into production. "It's gonna be for PS2. ... Wait! No, PS3! OKAY, NEW ENGINE EVERYONE!" "Captain Basche is the main character... ..." *end of preproduction approaches* "NO WAIT! Androgynous characters are more successful and he's too manly. Let's make two COMPLETELY NEW ONES and shoehorn them into the story for no reason. OKAY, RE-WRITE THE ENTIRE SCRIPT, PEOPLE!"

Ugh. Either Square's MASSIVELY full of shit and just doesn't want to make an FF7 remake or they're MASSIVELY incompetent and haven't changed their production pipeline in ten years. I'm inclined to believe the latter.
 

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SmugFrog said:
that would take as much as three or four times longer than the three and a half years it has taken to put this Final Fantasy together,"
I translate that as "Final Fantasy VII is 3 or 4 times the game XIII is."

I know that's not really what he's saying, but I can't help but feel that they keep making pathetic excuses.
Yeah, they should just tell you guys "No, we're not making a fucking FFVII remake PERIOD. So shut the fuck up!" Because evidently them trying to explain their reasoning for not making it is like explaining astrophysics to earthworms.
 

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john_alexander said:
This? This here is right here is why I HATE HATE HATE the graphics race. Now, don't get me wrong, but I never really liked FFVII (but that's not important right now). However, it was a pretty long game, with a lot of stuff in it. So if trying to update the graphics would take three times as long as the current Final Fantasy to develop (and that's with the story already made [though they would probably re-write a lot of the dialog and record voice-overs]), does that mean FFXIII has a third the content? Seriously?
Fully agree. I'm eternally pissed that a playing of FF7 shows more expressiveness in the crude animations of an army of Dr. Hoovehands than I ever see in emotionless jerks like the FFXIII characters. They're not supposed to look realistic, they're supposed to look believable; however it works best for you.
 

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chozo_hybrid said:
by remaking it they would have to account for all the spin off and crap and try writing that mess into it.
Actually they wouldn't really have to do that, since all of the spin off and crap is all dated after FFVII.
 

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We're willing to wait and we're GUARANTYING huge profits! So what other excuses you got up your ass?
 

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For a non-existent game they are totally and for sure not ever making, they sure talk about it a damn lot.
 

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I call bullshit. There's no way the game would take that long to make, unless it was going to be vapourware. Who knows, maybe FFXIV is a sequal to FFVII (7 times 2, get?). it could happen. Maybe that's why he keeps screwing with everyone's heads.
 

chozo_hybrid

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RanD00M said:
chozo_hybrid said:
by remaking it they would have to account for all the spin off and crap and try writing that mess into it.
Actually they wouldn't really have to do that, since all of the spin off and crap is all dated after FFVII.
Really? So Before Crisis and Crisis Core wouldn't have to be accounted for?

Plus do we really want to put up with Voice actors for a game that previously didn't have them, I don't want Barret and Cids implied swearing to disapear, plus I know they won't make Barret sound like Mr T which is the only voice I want for him.

I just think instead of moving backwards and remaking, they could focus on new projects instead of remaking every damn FF game ever.

It's like they've run out of ideas.
 

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And so once again a pointless article explaining stuff that was explained in the last pointless article
 

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I reckon they actually are making it, and this is a way to keep up the hype and public interest in the project without actually telling anyone that it exists. In a year's time or so they'll come out saying "Haha, we were actually making it all this time, and it's gonna be released... tomorrow! Quick, empty your bank accounts and get to your nearest game store to reserve your copy!" There'd be so much confusion and fanboy ecstasy that no-one will have time to be angry at Squeenix, and everyone will be clamouring to hand over their money.
 

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In the words of a brilliant character,

"Doralingus, this is BULLSHIT!"

Let me get this straight... it's ok that GT5 can take so long to develop that half the cars to be featured in the game went out of market 5 years ago... it's ok that Too Human took two console generations to see daylight, or that Duke Nukem could be in development longer than some gamers have been alive... and yet this is going to take SUCH a long time that it's just nearly impossible to do? What, is Square going to team up with James Cameron and Peter Jackson to produce this game?! There is absolutely NO reason why a remake of this game would take longer than 3 to 5 years at BEST. Our technology for game development has IMPROVED to allow games to be made easier, there are more tools at their disposal.. you could make this game in f-ing 3D and it would take less than 5 years.

Maybe if they weren't so busy making Tech Demos of the opening sequence of the game, sequel CGI films, or heaven forbid, crappy spin-off games featuring the CHARACTERS that made the game popular, this wouldnt be a problem... you know, maybe that talent making the oh so fantastic (SARCASM) Vincent game or that extremely limited otaku stroke-fest of a fighting game, they could have been well into the final stages.

I think what he is TRYING to say is, to recreate an actual GAME, where there is like.. "game elements and stuff" instead of a 30 hour music video/interactive movie like Final Fantasy XIII, might actually take some effort. I mean, people would want to PLAY a Final Fantasy VII remake, not watch it.

Oh well, they can keep knocking about if they want to, but if they overplay their hand, they might lose any opportunity to have made a game whose release would have been more epic than the release of Super Mario Brothers 3.
By the time they "reveal" their super secret project and say "HAHA we made a NEW final Fantasy 7, we were just leading you on! now Fanboys, buy to your hearts content", nobody is going to care anymore. That ship will have sailed and then they'll be looking for someone to blame... "Everyone SAID they wanted this! There was so many people begging, why are the sales so low?!"
 

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Well maybe if I hold a loaded gun to his head... wait no that would never work. Damn, ho well I guess I can only hope maybe in future. Though I do think that it may not be as good as we think it might be... I think it's mainly nostalgia that holds FFVII brilliant in our heart.
 

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you know it'll be perfect for the psp-i mean you can just reuse some stuff from crisis core for the remake, and given that it's on the psp, it'll be portable:therefore, better. also, shorter developement time given the reduced demands from a psp game vs a ps3 game. so yeah-why not?
 

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Gaderael said:
I call bullshit. There's no way the game would take that long to make, unless it was going to be vapourware. Who knows, maybe FFXIV is a sequal to FFVII (7 times 2, get?). it could happen. Maybe that's why he keeps screwing with everyone's heads.
Final Fantasy XIV is going to be their next MMORPG, like how Final Fantasy XI was...just so you know..

See here.. Final Fantasy XIV Online
 

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One: Bullshit

Two: Double Bullshit

Seriously, do they think we are THAT dumb? Oh sure, it'll just take 3-4 times longer to remake it than it took to make our latest one. It's not like we already have the story, dialogue and setting and just need to update the graphics and sound. No. Not like that at all.

Oh, I'm sorry Squeenix, maybe it IS hard for you to make HD towns. Maybe all that drawing and coding is too much for your overworked little company. Because surely, NO OTHER company has released games on this last generation with fully rendered and HD towns. Nope, no games like that at all.


Retards.
 

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I am LOVING the mass-reaction of "Really? If it's gonna take THAT long then FF13 has at best a third the content!" USE YOUR BRAIN SQUEENIX!
 

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Durxom said:
Gaderael said:
I call bullshit. There's no way the game would take that long to make, unless it was going to be vapourware. Who knows, maybe FFXIV is a sequal to FFVII (7 times 2, get?). it could happen. Maybe that's why he keeps screwing with everyone's heads.
Final Fantasy XIV is going to be their next MMORPG, like how Final Fantasy XI was...just so you know..

See here.. Final Fantasy XIV Online
haha-looks like we may have to wait for XXXXIX(49 = 7 ^ 2)
 

Gladion

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I call bullshit. There are longer games than FFVII out there, with much better graphics even. See Bethesda's work.
 

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Logan Westbrook said:
According to Kitase a next-gen remake of Final Fantasy VII would simply take too long to make: "If we were to recreate Final Fantasy VII with the same level of graphical detail as you see in Final Fantasy XIII, we'd imagine that that would take as much as three or four times longer than the three and a half years it has taken to put this Final Fantasy together," Kitase explained, "so it's looking pretty unrealistic!"
So is that him openly admitting that the latest games aren't as good as the older games? That's a pretty bold statement. Even so, it's not as if they would have to spend ages writing a story and designing areas as much (considering that they've got the PS1 versions to build upon so it would be purely aesthetic design rather than logistical).

That being said I am going to re-iterate what I said earlier in a different FFVII remake post, if they hired a load of fanboys who were game designers I'm sure they'd be willing to work for practically nothing and the end result would be a game more akin to a remake rather than re-imagining and therefore satisfy the rabid fanboys. SquareEnix would not take any game developers away from other products and the end result is that they'd be presented with a license to print money!