Final Fantasy XIII-2 Will "Exceed" Final Fantasy XIII

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Centrophy said:
squid5580 said:
LawlessSquirrel said:
"Why does mankind defy its fate?"

Arrogance. Next question!

I suppose I should play XIII before judging this, but I've not heard the best things so far. Maybe this is Square Enix trying to salvage the work that got looked down upon the first time around?
You don't "play" ff13. You watch it play itself.
Well, it's not unusual for JRPG's to have silly stories, unlikable characters, and games that play themselves. Just look as far back as the Xenosaga series (Note: I'm sure there are more but this is the most recent one I played), a game made by a different company. Let's not forget that they (The game developers) love to shove some sort of odd take on morality and questioning humanities fate, or the power of friendship, or love, or some other such silliness. IMO, that game was more enjoyable when it played with itself.

So yeah, FF13-2... Squeenix, I'll pass just like I've passed on all of your games since FF10.

On another note... remember when Square and Enix were separate entities and made good games like the Gaia series(Enix) and Vagrant Story(Squaresoft)?
A good TB RPG gives you options. Sure you aren't mashing buttons and that is not what I mean when I said it plays itself. A good rpg gives the player the option to cast either cure or cura (for an example). DO I want to hit the baddy with a fire ball or a lightning bolt. FF13 takes all that away from the player. Instead you are reduced to casting the scan spell then the game decides for you whether a fireball or a lightning bolt is the better option. The bosses are by far the worst offenders of this by practically telling you the only effective tactics you need to beat them (and for most there is only one way). The only real input you the player gets is deciding who is going to be attacking, buffing, debuffing or healing (which once again is very limited since the game decides who is best at what). From there the game decides who cast what on where. Even when you level up and get to pick more skills and spells you are hardly playing since you are locked in by a very linear progression.

I have a similar complaint about Persona 3 but at least in it you got to control 1 character (and far more options in the character building department).
 

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Square Enix hopes it'll have players asking : "Why does mankind defy its fate?"

What a powerful statement, of course millions of other games out there would never ask their players to answer such a question.

I miss the old days when Square and Enix were seperate companies :\
 

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Am I suppose to believe this? Saying that FFXIII-2 will exceed FFXIII is a bold statement to say the least. As a Final Fantasy fan I highly doubt they'll make it much better then FFXIII.

The only way I'd believe it will truely exceed the last one is by getting the Dragon Quest team to work on the game. At least that department still knows what they are doing when it comes to making quality games.
 
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I would just like to point out that while the only other direct sequel was recieved pretty badly(FFX-2) this was not due to gameplay. The story was the only part where it fell down and that was mostly due to the over the top fan service chick type stuff. The Dress spheres were a good idea and added a whole new dimension to combat as well as the ATB style where you could kill enemies while they were in mid attack.
 

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the dude looked like a mix between Rhadamanthys from Saint Seiya and Sephiroth.

Sephiroth

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[http://saintseiya.wikia.com/index.php?title=Wyvern_Rhadamanthys&image=Specter_-_Wyvern_Rhadamanthys-jpg]

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new final fantasy villain?
 

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And by 'exceed' i assume it means 'make players get bored to tears faster and work even harder until the game becomes even remotely good'..yeah I'm skipping this one.
 

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Jesus Phish said:
Because FFX-2 was such a good idea...
Ha! Exactly my thoughts, down the the very phrasing.

The sad part of it is, I'll probably still play it, whenever it come out (most likely 5 years from now at the rate the main series is going). Bad times.
 

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FredTheUndead said:
On the plus side, Gilgamesh confirmed for Dissidia 2 and the Versus 13 gameplay looks alright.
Yup, sometimes I wonder if Squeenix is just trolloing us with the main ff series now.

I would just like an explanation to the apparent period change...
 

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icame said:
Lets look at the history shall we?

FFX sucked
and its sequal, FFX-2, was even worse

Seeing as FF13 is what I consider to be the worst game ever made (Or atleast worst major release.), FF13-2 should be absolute shit. Not like I expect anymore from Final Fantasy now anways.
FFX didn't suck! You thinking of Final fantasy XI, now that sucked, it's the only one, too me, that sucked. (Haven't played X-2)
 

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so, Toriyama is just dropping the pretense and making a movie now, eh? Wait, does mean as a game? Until he learns how to write (FFXIII and The Third Birthday are TERRIBLY written) or direct one (FFX-2 and FFXIII) his boasts have no weight. He's the most untalented guy at Square, by FAR. He's the antithesis of Yasumi Matsuno
 

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also, now that they're making a sequel to FFXIII, I'm guessing Noah Antwiler is considering suicide to keep from reviewing it in the coming years. The fail train of this series keeps on going
 

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Considering all the quality games that are on the horizon, and the steaming pile of rotten shit that was FF13...the only reason I will focus on this game is to make SURE I dont buy it in a stupid, drunken stupor.
 

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Jesus Phish said:
Because FFX-2 was such a good idea...
Maybe they added in freedom to move about, oh and the whole RPG element they tore away...

Or they will make a million pop culture references and we will see the return of the friendly neighborhood gull wings...

Certainly will wait for the review no pre-order on this stab in the dark.
 

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*shrugs*

_>

Call me a pessimist but...

Story needs a HUGE facelift. I mean... a HUGEEEEE faceli...
 

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FFXIII-2 could be good. But, unfortunately it won't be good, because Square doesn't want to devote the time needed to actually rework the original into a palatable game. I mean, the end of the year in Japan!? Seriously? I have a feeling we'll be visiting a lot of copy-pasted areas from the original.
 

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Lvl 64 Klutz said:
FFXIII-2 could be good. But, unfortunately it won't be good, because Square doesn't want to devote the time needed to actually rework the original into a palatable game. I mean, the end of the year in Japan!? Seriously? I have a feeling we'll be visiting a lot of copy-pasted areas from the original.
Just like X-2. The only good that could possibly come out of this is that Toriyama'll be too busy with it to do XV, though I doubt Square execs have the common sense to give it to someone with TALENT (like the aforementioned Matsuno or Takashi Tokita)
 

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Seeing as I liked the story for FFXIII and that not improving the game (or making it worse) essentially just makes it into a semi-interactive movie, I'm actually looking forward to this.
 

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I'm one of the few people who did actually like FF XIII despite its overwhelming amount of faults, but even I think this sequel is unnecessary.