Well technically you can't copyright vague ideas. An example would be when Naked Gun lampooned a photo of pregenant Demi Moore from an issue Vanity Fair. The photographer lost the lawsuit because you can't own the rights to something vague like a poseEntitled said:
Finland Considers "Crowdsourced" Copyright Law
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Jumalauta, there's other Finns on here. You stole my postKyber said:
There's plenty of wonky shit going on in Finland in terms of law, just like in every other country in the world. But every now and then, something amazing like this pops up. Let's hope it makes it through. Doesn't affect me a lot either, but even a single shaky step on the road of common sense when it comes to lawmaking here in Finland or anywhere else for that matter is always cause for celebration. It worries me just how disconnected from actual reality lawmakers are sometimes. Which is weird, since we vote those people in there so we ought to share their views...
... right?
International treaties don't overrule local law, they apply to citizens that have gone to other nations or someone who ran away to another nation, basically they are there to prevent someone circumventing another nations laws by crossing a boarder.Baldr said:
Yes, that's what "Fair Use" is supposed to be for, I just feel that even the widest applied usages of that are ridiculously narrow compared to what a healthy culture should have.PoolCleaningRobot said:
If works like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, The Wide Sargasso Sea, Or Alan Moore's The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, would be written based on anything created after 1918, they would be treated as unpublishable "fanfiction" even in the best copyright systems, and illegal to exist in the rest, persecuted by Cease and Desist letters.
Not bbecause they are artistically uniriginal pieces of theft and plagiarism (they are great creative works), but because of a handful of names they used, and situations that they have admittedly built from.
When at one time we are getting psyched up over the "canon", and "worldbuilding" that is entirely based on a corporation practicing their exclusive rights over a franchise, while at the same time bemoaning the abundance of "old safe IPs, all that we are talking about is just copyright law's strict
Annas kun liitän vielä kuvan tohon tekstiin!Kyber said:
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Yeah this was weird, well it still has to get the votes from parliament etc so it has a long and rocky way to go before actually becoming a law.
I find it rather strange that it made it this far since we don't have that high penalties anyway and very few are actually being punished here for copyright infrigment.
Not sure if I want to communicate in Finnish or EnglishKarathos said:Jumalauta, there's other Finns on here. You stole my postKyber said:
but even a single shaky step on the road of common sense when it comes to lawmaking here in Finland
What is bad/strange in our lawaking if I may ask? I think it's working just fine...
You've Swedish as a mandatory class. Swedish is a terrible language. Trust me, I'm Swedish.Guffe said:Not sure if I want to communicate in Finnish or EnglishKarathos said:Jumalauta, there's other Finns on here. You stole my postKyber said:
but even a single shaky step on the road of common sense when it comes to lawmaking here in Finland
What is bad/strange in our lawaking if I may ask? I think it's working just fine...
Inte skulle jag säga att det är ett så hemskt språkDenamic said:You've Swedish as a mandatory class. Swedish is a terrible language. Trust me, I'm Swedish.Guffe said:Not sure if I want to communicate in Finnish or EnglishKarathos said:Jumalauta, there's other Finns on here. You stole my postKyber said:
but even a single shaky step on the road of common sense when it comes to lawmaking here in Finland
What is bad/strange in our lawaking if I may ask? I think it's working just fine...
I'm bilingual so for me that isn't a problem, mom is a Swedish speaking Finn while dad only knows Finnish so from birth I've been raised with 2 languages whitch I am very happy about
It's a needlessly complicated language. English is a far more organic and easier to learn language. Then again, Finnish kinda suck, too. In fact, most Scandinavian languages are like proprietary hardware connectors in a world that uses USB.Guffe said:Inte skulle jag säga att det är ett så hemskt språk
I'm bilingual so for me that isn't a problem, mom is a Swedish speaking Finn while dad only knows Finnish so from birth I've been raised with 2 languages whitch I am very happy about
I remember signing this back when it was first made.
Happy to see it's getting so much publicity, the copyright laws here are goddamn insane.
Also: Hei vaan kaikille Suomalaisille täällä! Se on perkeleen hienoa että tämä sivu on näinkin maailmanlaajuisesti suosittu.
Happy to see it's getting so much publicity, the copyright laws here are goddamn insane.
Also: Hei vaan kaikille Suomalaisille täällä! Se on perkeleen hienoa että tämä sivu on näinkin maailmanlaajuisesti suosittu.
Yeah well Finnish differs a lot from the rest of the Nordic language because it belongs to another family than Swedish, that's why Finns sound a bit awkward when they speak English.Denamic said:It's a needlessly complicated language. English is a far more organic and easier to learn language. Then again, Finnish kinda suck, too. In fact, most Scandinavian languages are like proprietary hardware connectors in a world that uses USB.Guffe said:Inte skulle jag säga att det är ett så hemskt språk
I'm bilingual so for me that isn't a problem, mom is a Swedish speaking Finn while dad only knows Finnish so from birth I've been raised with 2 languages whitch I am very happy about
Swedish again belongs to the same family as English and I find it a good thing to have spoken Swedish all my life since I think that also strengthens my English, I believe.
Swedish is actually a Germanic Language, putting it in the family alongside German, English and the various Scandinavian languages. Finnish, meanwhile, isn't an Indo-European language and as such doesn't have much commonality with anything else on the continent. My understanding is that it's somehow related to Hungarian, but I'm not 100% on that.Guffe said:Yeah well Finnish differs a lot from the rest of the Nordic language because it belongs to another family than Swedish, that's why Finns sound a bit awkward when they speak English.Denamic said:It's a needlessly complicated language. English is a far more organic and easier to learn language. Then again, Finnish kinda suck, too. In fact, most Scandinavian languages are like proprietary hardware connectors in a world that uses USB.Guffe said:Inte skulle jag säga att det är ett så hemskt språk
I'm bilingual so for me that isn't a problem, mom is a Swedish speaking Finn while dad only knows Finnish so from birth I've been raised with 2 languages whitch I am very happy about
Swedish again belongs to the same family as English and I find it a good thing to have spoken Swedish all my life since I think that also strengthens my English, I believe.
OT: Democracy is awesome when it actually allows the people to vote for themselves.
Finland was one of the signers of the "Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties" (VCLT) and is subject to the UN and international law when it comes to enforcement of treaties. "A treaty shall be interpreted in good faith in accordance with the ordinary meaning to be given to the terms of the treaty in their context and in the light of its object and purpose." (article 31(1))RicoADF said:
Considering that probably more than 95% of protected Intellectual Property does not belong to a Finnish citizens, these treaties are going to apply.
Can't be as bad as learning German. So many grammar rules! From what I remember, at least Swedish doesn't have the du/sie thing going on. Does Swedish have genders for nouns?Denamic said:It's a needlessly complicated language. English is a far more organic and easier to learn language. Then again, Finnish kinda suck, too. In fact, most Scandinavian languages are like proprietary hardware connectors in a world that uses USB.Guffe said:Inte skulle jag säga att det är ett så hemskt språk
I'm bilingual so for me that isn't a problem, mom is a Swedish speaking Finn while dad only knows Finnish so from birth I've been raised with 2 languages whitch I am very happy about
I had 3 years of German classes, and yes, it's worse than German. As for the gender thing; generally no, but sometimes yes. The local dialect here often refer to things as 'he', or 'han' in Swedish, instead of 'den/det'. What's worse is how they pronounce it 'hän'. Fucking drives me insane.BlackStar42 said:Can't be as bad as learning German. So many grammar rules! From what I remember, at least Swedish doesn't have the du/sie thing going on. Does Swedish have genders for nouns?Denamic said:It's a needlessly complicated language. English is a far more organic and easier to learn language. Then again, Finnish kinda suck, too. In fact, most Scandinavian languages are like proprietary hardware connectors in a world that uses USB.Guffe said:Inte skulle jag säga att det är ett så hemskt språk
I'm bilingual so for me that isn't a problem, mom is a Swedish speaking Finn while dad only knows Finnish so from birth I've been raised with 2 languages whitch I am very happy about