Five Guys and a Computer Beat Super Mario 64 in Five Minutes

WittyInfidel

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That wasn't a speedrun, that was exploiting glitches while having a computer do all your heavy lifting. I am not amused. That was bad, and they should feel bad.
 

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WittyInfidel said:
That wasn't a speedrun, that was exploiting glitches while having a computer do all your heavy lifting. I am not amused. That was bad, and they should feel bad.
You must have missed the "tool-assisted" part of the speedrun thing.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
LWS666 said:
does TAS actually mean the computer did it? i thought it just meant saves and turbo keys and stuff like that.
Well, basically the team had to play those three levels over and over again to memorize the layouts (or find a layout online, thats possible), then program the exact moments to jump/go onto bum into Mario, and then hit the play button. he fact that their programming had to be REALLY precise is impressive, and if you notice in the third bowser area, mario is right on the edge of some of the platforms.

It's an impressive display of programing skills, but I say you should speed run as a human being, because this isn't really playing videogames so much as programming.
No they don't program anything in to it, they play these themselves while the game is slowed down a lot and they use a ton of savestates.
 

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eyeguy397 said:
Doesn't the cake in the end give an almost eerie resemblance to the portal cake?
In the fact that they're both cakes...yes, any other way...I don't see it!

Anyway as impressive as that is...It's just lacking in something due to it being done by a computer.
 

LeonLethality

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Baldry said:
eyeguy397 said:
Doesn't the cake in the end give an almost eerie resemblance to the portal cake?
In the fact that they're both cakes...yes, any other way...I don't see it!

Anyway as impressive as that is...It's just lacking in something due to it being done by a computer.
TAS are not done by computers, they are done by people slowing down the game and using savestates.

Only thing done by the computer is emulate the game.
 

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eyeguy397 said:
Doesn't the cake in the end give an almost eerie resemblance to the portal cake?
Well in the intro she did say come to the castle we've baked you a cake - and then at the end they go to make the cake, so they hadn't baked it at all. Technically, the cake is a lie...
 

Tron Paul

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This is old news. Here's a good speed run in 17 minutes without Tools (but using glitches).
http://speeddemosarchive.com/Mario64.html#16
Speed Demos Archive is a sweet site. The half life 1 and 2 runs are my favorite.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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eyeguy397 said:
Doesn't the cake in the end give an almost eerie resemblance to the portal cake?
More of the other way around, the whole "the cake is a lie" came from the Mario game tradition set out from this game for cakes baked by Peach to be a lie.
 

mjc0961

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Isn't it closer to 4 minutes? He gets the end star at the 5:04 mark of the video, but the first minutes of the video isn't actual gameplay, and thus shouldn't be counted. Time should start when you actually start playing.
 

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Moriarty said:
... you really think those guys never played the game? You don't even know how TAS work and yet you start complaining.
Never said they never played it. Just saying people who use glitches without finishing the game first disgust me. Accidental glitch finding I'm ok with because that can't be helped.
ultimasupersaiyan said:
I'm disgusted by this. Not the fact that it was through glitching(which I am also disgusted by if the person has never finished the game properly before using them)but the fact it was done by a computer. It isn't a speedrun if a PC is doing it, it's just a computer running a routine. If an actual person did it and we saw it done in real time, then it's a speedrun.

My big question is why bother doing this and why even buy games if your going to get something else to play it? It's a grim future we're looking at if people prefer getting a PC to do something that would have been an awesome achievement to do themselves.
See never said they didn't play it. Just asking why bother with a PC speedrun and a small comment on exploiting gliches without finishing the game first.
 

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WittyInfidel said:
That wasn't a speedrun, that was exploiting glitches while having a computer do all your heavy lifting. I am not amused. That was bad, and they should feel bad.

I agree 100%, it's pathetic
 

C117

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Impressive, but I still prefer that one that took 16 minutes.

Why? Because you can actually see what's going on.
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
WittyInfidel said:
That wasn't a speedrun, that was exploiting glitches while having a computer do all your heavy lifting. I am not amused. That was bad, and they should feel bad.

I agree 100%, it's pathetic
Pathetic?

What right do you have to judge what is and isn't a waste of time? And, more importantly, what have you done that's any less "pathetic" than this?
 

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NeutralMunchHotel said:
Quiet Stranger said:
WittyInfidel said:
That wasn't a speedrun, that was exploiting glitches while having a computer do all your heavy lifting. I am not amused. That was bad, and they should feel bad.

I agree 100%, it's pathetic
Pathetic?

What right do you have to judge what is and isn't a waste of time? And, more importantly, what have you done that's any less "pathetic" than this?

I never said it was a waste of time but anyone can figure out all the glitches and make a computer do the speed run, the record is undeserved.
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
NeutralMunchHotel said:
Quiet Stranger said:
WittyInfidel said:
That wasn't a speedrun, that was exploiting glitches while having a computer do all your heavy lifting. I am not amused. That was bad, and they should feel bad.

I agree 100%, it's pathetic
Pathetic?

What right do you have to judge what is and isn't a waste of time? And, more importantly, what have you done that's any less "pathetic" than this?

I never said it was a waste of time but anyone can figure out all the glitches and make a computer do the speed run, the record is undeserved.
If you had any idea how this worked you'd realise this took some amount of skill to do.
 

Quiet Stranger

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NeutralMunchHotel said:
Quiet Stranger said:
NeutralMunchHotel said:
Quiet Stranger said:
WittyInfidel said:
That wasn't a speedrun, that was exploiting glitches while having a computer do all your heavy lifting. I am not amused. That was bad, and they should feel bad.

I agree 100%, it's pathetic
Pathetic?

What right do you have to judge what is and isn't a waste of time? And, more importantly, what have you done that's any less "pathetic" than this?

I never said it was a waste of time but anyone can figure out all the glitches and make a computer do the speed run, the record is undeserved.
If you had any idea how this worked you'd realise this took some amount of skill to do.
I'd still like to see them do it themselves
 

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That was quite possibly one of the funniest things I have seen.
 

WittyInfidel

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LeonLethality said:
WittyInfidel said:
That wasn't a speedrun, that was exploiting glitches while having a computer do all your heavy lifting. I am not amused. That was bad, and they should feel bad.
You must have missed the "tool-assisted" part of the speedrun thing.
"...while having a computer do all your heavy lifting..."

Nope, think I got it, thanks.
This is not deserving of a record. If any type of record is given, I move to have it stricken.
 

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NeutralMunchHotel said:
If you had any idea how this worked you'd realise this took some amount of skill to do.
Agreed, it's not as if they hooked up an N64 to their computer and told it to play the game as quickly as possible. I'd certainly be more impressed if it was a person doing all of those moves but it's quite a feat none-the-less.

As for all of this talk of records, anyone who keeps track of speedruns is detail-oriented enough to have a category for normal speedruns and computer-assisted speedruns. If this crew had kept the computer involvement silent I'd understand the objections here but they seem to be entirely up front about the technical assistance used here.