Force Unleashed 2 DLC Features Disturbing Wookie Death

megs1120

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OctalLord said:
megs1120 said:
Can't Starkiller pull Star Destroyers out of the sky? Why did it take so long for him to take down an AT-ST?

That's not the same starkiller from the first game, that's a clone. Clone had to start from step 4(Just got sent out into the world.) and couldn't take those things down easily. The first starkiller dies regardless of how you end the first game. So that's what happens here.
Ah, thanks. I'm not very familiar with the series, mostly, I just knew that Starkiller does something to a Star Destroyer, using the force.

Are all of the boss battles that padded for time?

I hope I'm not sounding too negative, this is a really neat concept for DLC.
 

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Oh no. I have nothing against a story that shows what could have happened if X did Y. I would love to see a version of Red dead Redemption where:

John Marston does not die, and manages to live on.

But when you take something that we have grown to accept for years, then destroy it, even just for fun, just to get a laugh, then that's when stupidity sets in. Especially when they are taking the two most lovable characters FROM THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE, and killing them. Killing them right before our eyes in a way that seems unreal to see. When I saw this, my mind thought only one thing; "This can't be real. It's not happening." While it may not be happening, the one thing that sets into people's minds is that this is actually plausible. Very Plausible in fact, considering just how powerful Starkiller is and how he could easily do all that, but it's a fact we can't accept. We don't want to accept it despite the facts being there.

Even if this is the equivalent of fan fiction, reading a story in destroys them in some way is horrible. What's worse is making money from it.

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Disturbing you say... they fought an died, I don't see the big deal.

But I can't not mention the horrible glitches in this game, the models are all over the place, and the walker looked like it was just floating there while his legs were hanging around, and why does Han look like taken from a 10 year old game when the BadlyNamedJedi guy is modeled to perfection?!

I'm tempted to get this game just to list all the poop in it.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
JourneyThroughHell said:
Oh no. I have nothing against a story that shows what could have happened if X did Y. I would love to see a version of Red dead Redemption where:

John Marston does not die, and manages to live on.

But when you take something that we have grown to accept for years, then destroy it, even just for fun, just to get a laugh, then that's when stupidity sets in. Especially when they are taking the two most lovable characters FROM THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE, and killing them. Killing them right before our eyes in a way that seems unreal to see. When I saw this, my mind thought only one thing; "This can't be real. It's not happening." While it may not be happening, the one thing that sets into people's minds is that this is actually plausible. Very Plausible in fact, considering just how powerful Starkiller is and how he could easily do all that, but it's a fact we can't accept. We don't want to accept it despite the facts being there.

Even if this is the equivalent of fan fiction, reading a story in destroys them in some way is horrible. What's worse is making money from it.
"This can't be real. It's not happening."

It is not real. It is not happening. It is not destroying anything.

The original films still exist, are still valid, are still canon and nothing is changed. It's just a level.

Do fan films where someone playing Luke Skywalker gets offed anger you too? I've seen those. They are fan films. They have as much to do with the main story as this - nothing.

They don't even look like Chewbacca and Han Solo. And even if they did, so what?
 

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ok i officaly have to get this game im sorry people but i LIKE non canon stuff that way they arnt shakled to one story. (though i have to say chuwie dieing like that.....just distrubing)
 

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I'm fine with seeing another actor pose as someone else. I saw that Star Wars in 10 minutes thing and was fine with it, even though it was being portrayed by people who looked nothing like any of them. Now, let me tell you why I hate it, because it's pretty much exactly the same.

Take your favourite franchise, series, film, game or TV show. Now go read a fanfic in which they all have sex with each other, even if they had no emotions or didn't even meet. Even read a Slash-Fic, a fiction where two characters meet in other franchises and then have sex, anything. It doesn't exist in canon and it won't affect the entire plot since it didn't happen. But it's there. It is always there. It will forever be there, and because you've seen it, it's in your head now too. This may not be as scarring as a Star Wars rule 34, but it's equally as upsetting. Especially since they're just thrown away so carelessly.

This is why alternate situations in already laid out stories have to tread carefully and be handled judged as one slip and you can't be forgiven, because you have created something where nothing can be forgotten. A horrible situation where what we knew is replaced with what could have been if something different happened.

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Jack and Calumon said:
Take your favourite franchise, series, film, game or TV show. Now go read a fanfic in which they all have sex with each other, even if they had no emotions or didn't even meet. Even read a Slash-Fic, a fiction where two characters meet in other franchises and then have sex, anything.
Okay, I'm not going to look for a fanfic where Ghost and McTavish get it on, thank you very much.

However, with that said, the only reason this very... jarringly out of character. And sometimes very in-detail, and, therefore, horrifying.

Nothing like that here. Han Solo and Chewie actually can die, that's one. They don't get horrifically murdered in bloody detail or torn to shreds, that's two.

Really, is this scene going to, in any way, change your perception of the characters? Of course, not. In fact, it's a different timeline - they might as well not be themselves. I don't see how this is supposed to matter one bit, even if you will remember the situation.

If it evokes sadness, they succeeded. If you believe they should've given the characters a far more deserving send-off even in this pseudo-side story, that's absolutely fine. However, this in no way makes it "the biggest, dirtiest and stupidest bomb".

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Calumon: Arguing makes me sad... : (
Yeah. Not particularly fond of it, too. Except when it's about politics.

With that said, I think it's unfair that LucasArts are being reprimanded for getting somewhat creative because seeing familiar characters get killed in some fanfic-equivealent upsets them.

P.S. No, I'm not going to look for the MW2 slash fics. However, I would be interested to know if those actually existed.

Not going to check that. NSFS (not safe for soul).
 

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The Sith levels of TFU have had the odd side effect of convincing me never to go over to the Dark Side in any Star Wars game, because the Sith are just wankers.

Ben Kenobi being killed by that overpowered, posturing, one-dimensional twat in the first game's DLC was enough for me. TFU is just fanfic now, and really really bad fanfic at that.
 

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I can't believe how shitty the DLC for both TFU games are. Compare the graphics and cinematics of the DLC to the main games and you see a huge difference.

Also, that was the worst Han Solo impersonation ever.
 

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Sigh, just another instance where super overpowered Starkiller shows how incredibly awesome he is by killing two loved Star Wars characters with almost no effort.
I'm not going as far as some other posters but come on...its not even a particular interesting scenario (if you leave out killing Ewoks). He kills them because he's all powerful. He already beat everyone else in the Star Wars canon. He's just a lame and uninteresting character and a Mary Sue on top of it with a romance that is even more stupid than the one between Anakin and Padme.
He also made force lightning uninteresting and mundane...
Sigh...can we put him to rest already? Please?
 

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I'm not a Star Wars nerd (and by Star Wars nerd, I mean someone who memorized all the movies and books), but maybe the reason that everyone's upset is not that Han and Chewie died, but how they died. Here's something I want to ask all of you Star Wars nerds: What if instead of Starkiller, Darth Vader showed up? How would the fight have turned out then? Would they have given Vader a run for his money or would he have killed them just as easily as Starkiller did?
 

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megs1120 said:
Can't Starkiller pull Star Destroyers out of the sky? Why did it take so long for him to take down an AT-ST?
Because video games still use the ridiculous "give all bosses a ton of health to make them hard" philosophy.

Especially with this series where the whole point is to make you feel like a badass. But then boss fights come in and you feel like a pansy. I hate bosses in games.
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
That's... dark. Really dark.

And I like that, you know. Yeah, that's exactly what they were going for and it works, really. It's supposed to be dark, it's supposed to be hard to watch for Star Wars fans.

It's pretty good.

Also,
doesn't Chewbacca die at some point later in some book or something/
Yea, he get's hit with a moon.
That...actually sounds kinda awesome. Yeah, I would like to see that.
 

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InsanityBaronOfAtrocity said:
Woah. Surprised at how seriously people have been taking all this asking whether it was handled properly? Jesus Christ guys. The reaction I've seen from the community so far is the only depressing thing. Nobody important has cared about starwars for 20+ years.
I think youre on the wrong forum
 

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Huh. I am reminded of
Mission and Zallbar although that one was a lot darker to me. Just making Zallbar do it, and not even showing it on camera, that was horrible

Still not getting the game and that glitch half way through didn't slip past me.