Hypocrite much? You watch anime, one of the most highly sexist forms of entertainment out there.Kpt._Rob said:Yes, perhaps it is just my hopeful naiveté that has lead me to look at Duke Nukem as a self aware piece of immaturity. But, you're right, it could be that they've decided to forego all attempts to maintain some dignity and chosen to simply pander to the lowest common denominator. And, if that's the case, then it's my unfortunate duty to agree with Fox News on this one game. That sucks, because it would be a struggle for me to be any more liberal, and to call Fox a strange bedfellow would be an understatement of epic proportions, but if Duke really is trying to sell not to audiences that want to laugh at something immature but that want something immature, then it deserves some measure of ire.thaluikhain said:Ok, I sorta get what you mean, but I'm not sure if that's what they are going for.Kpt._Rob said:I hadn't meant to say that it was deep social commentary, just that the immaturity of it was the joke. That is to say that Duke Nukem is a self-aware expression of immaturity. If I were to try and express it more clearly than I was before, I would say that there are two types of immaturity. There is genuine immaturity, that is to say that the person making the immature thing has no idea how immature it is. When you laugh at its immaturity, you also laugh at the creator (whether you meant to or not) because it is a genuine reflection of immaturity. But the second type of immaturity is that possessed by Duke Nukem. The people at Gearbox are clearly aware of how immature the game is, and they're creatively working to make it as over the top immature as possible. Unlike the first type of immaturity, where the creator is the actual joke, in the case of Duke Nukem it is the creation itself that is the joke.
Likewise, there are two groups of people who will play Duke Nukem, those who will laugh at it, and those who will laugh at its immaturity. I think my fear here is that the assumption made of gamers by the non-gaming public (and anyone who doesn't realize that Duke is a joke) is that they are laughing at Duke Nukem as opposed to laughing at its immaturity.
For example, just refering to the sex. It's been pointed out on the forums time and again that scanitly clad females don't hurt sales, large breasts appeal to certain demographic, and so on. This is generally seem as a normal part of the gaming industry.
But in regards to DNF, it's totally not about sex, it's about laughing at the how it's portrayed? Presumably, then, it's marketed at those who aren't too happy with sex in games, and not at that who want to see more of it? I have a hard time buying that. DNF seems to be awfully close to being what people say it's parodying, though we'll have to wait and see to be sure.
Seriously, what's with you? You obviously never played Duke Nukem if you "agree with Fox news on this one". SERIOUSLY MAN?
It's called humor, context, and fantasy. Here, I'll break it down for YOU the "lowest common denominator"
Aliens invade the world; all the men are turned into pig-cops, the women are being abducted, Duke Nukem is unaffected because he's like the Chuck Norris of the story; all the women look at him as a hero to save them; they all love him and fall at his feet. It's a classic game full of parodies of classic movies/games etc. To call it sexist is RETARDED, because it's making fun of sexism itself.
Get a clue. Honestly!