Foxconn Plans US Factory Expansion

Karloff

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Foxconn Plans US Factory Expansion



The Taiwanese manufacturer behind Apple's product line may open up shop in LA and Detroit.

Foxconn, the company best known for its worker suicide rate [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120096-iOS-Game-Explores-the-Afterlives-of-Foxconn-Suicides], is considering opening up new factories in Los Angeles and Detroit. Why? Because that darn expensive Chinese labor is just draining all the profits out of Foxconn's manufacturing. Foxconn wants to cut its costs, and thinks an American operation may be the way forward.

Foxconn chairman Terry Guo has already announced a training scheme for US-based engineers. The scheme will bring the engineers to Taiwan, or China, to get a first-hand look at Foxconn's manufacturing methods. One of the benefits of the scheme, according to Guo, is that it will give the engineers a crash-course in the Chinese language. Guo is in talks with MIT to get this done.

The US isn't Foxconn's only option. It already has eight factories in Brazil, and is putting $10 billion into Indonesia within the next five to ten years. However Guo has high hopes that his US protégés will return to America and set up facilities with automated equipment.

Foxconn's change of perspective has a lot to do with its recent troubles in China. Investigations and audits, provoked by the high suicide rate and an explosion at its Chengdu plant, have forced new safety standards and higher wages at Foxconn's Chinese factories. That expense doesn't sit well with Guo, and so Foxconn started looking abroad for other places to set up shop.

Source: Guardian [http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/nov/08/foxconn-plan-factories-us-america]


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vxicepickxv

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It's pretty good PR, but I don't see them opening plants in LA. Maybe Detroit, or, more likely, the Southeast US, where Union is a 4 letter word.

Now we can get people in Mississippi a minimum wage job with no benefits who's too stupid to understand that not having to give half that pay to a health insurance company would help them out in the long run.
 

Ruairi iliffe

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Heh, I kinda love how this implies that LA and Detroit have worse labor laws than china at a glance.

Anyhoo, Unless they drastically change management or sort out fundamentals, I can see lots and lots of government interventions.
 

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Karloff said:
Foxconn, the company best known for its worker suicide rate [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120096-iOS-Game-Explores-the-Afterlives-of-Foxconn-Suicides], is considering opening up new factories in Los Angeles and Detroit. Why? Because that darn expensive Chinese labor is just draining all the profits out of Foxconn's manufacturing. Foxconn wants to cut its costs, and thinks an American operation may be the way forward.
I love this tasty irony. How there's been a constant shift to push things to be done in eastern countries due to it being cheaper there, and now it's going to the west because it's cheaper.
 

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Ruairi iliffe said:
Heh, I kinda love how this implies that LA and Detroit have worse labor laws than china at a glance.

Anyhoo, Unless they drastically change management or sort out fundamentals, I can see lots and lots of government interventions.
As written Chinese labour laws are more generous than US ones, however they are not enforced and trying to have them enforced gets you arrested as an undesirable. The real reason is that Chinese wage inflation is very high due to the fact the supply of cheap labour from the provinces has largely dried up. Given that Chinese labour tends to have lower productivity than western counterparts, wage inflation has eaten away at the cost advantage of manufacturing in China. This is a general trend and Foxconn is just the latest example.
 

Nalgas D. Lemur

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albino boo said:
Given that Chinese labour tends to have lower productivity than western counterparts, wage inflation has eaten away at the cost advantage of manufacturing in China.
I have a feeling they also wouldn't be manufacturing things that are highly labor-intensive in the US and would use much higher levels of automation, kind of like everything else that's currently manufactured here. Many of the jobs that are involved are more highly skilled and pay better, but there are far fewer of them.
 

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Steve the Pocket said:
Aren't video game consoles made by them too? Why single out Apple instead when this is a video game site?
Because their biggest issues have been in the Apple production lines, so it's what they're most recognized for.
 

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I'm... not sure how to feel about this.

The US needs jobs pretty desperately, & our manufacturing market isn't known for it's quality (or it's existence, for that matter). So this kinda feels like a good thing

The implication that China, the supposed sweatshop shangri la, sees the US as the place to outsource to is not a compliment for our labor laws or worker's rights.

Let's see how this goes
 

Rad Party God

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It's an elaborate shceme to make US workers to kill themselves.

Or this could be extremely benefical to the economy.
 

Skeleon

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Outsourcing to the USA. Aren't you proud.
I'm sure this article is at least somewhat misleading in its portrayal, but it still makes me grin in that slightly sad, slightly malevolent kind of way when you know you shouldn't laugh at others' misfortune but also know you just have to.
 

lacktheknack

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Karloff said:
Why? Because that darn expensive Chinese labor is just draining all the profits out of Foxconn's manufacturing. Foxconn wants to cut its costs, and thinks an American operation may be the way forward.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I think they're going to be annoyed by North American safety standards. VERY annoyed.
 

Yeager942

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Wait...

China is outsourcing their jobs for "cheap" American labor. Is this bizarro world?
 

Tiger Sora

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Really, not to say jobs in NA are bad but they really have nothing set in stone here. What with the US careening towards the "financial cliff".... coming this January to everywhere near you and beyond!
And we know that while fa/tg/uys "gets shit done". The US government falls flat on it's face when it comes to dealing with it's financial crisis'.
I'm really REALLY, hoping they're not gona go over, what with me joining the trades and all. Cause if America goes, Canada's in the passengers seat and were goin' with em.

Fix it Obama, you just got your second chance.

Also, lol at outsourcing to the US. Did i wake up in Bizzaro land?
 

weirdee

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well, what better way to get cheap labor than to completely destroy the domestic work environment

who needs slaves when you can strangle your lower classes until they agree to one sided terms
 

Mr.Mattress

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On the one side, America actually gets some work...

On the other side, the company is known for being terrible for workers, to the point where they kill themselves...

I'm so torn...