Funny events in anti-woke world

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Honestly, been tempted to get into the grifter game. 18k a month, even assuming you're losing 75% to fees and taxes (and there's no way it's that high), is still 50k a year.
 

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It must be a bit like what it was for Japanese soldiers still hiding in jungles in the 1960s because WW2 meant too much to them to accept it was over. When in doubt, bring up a feminist that G****g*** types hated years ago, even though no-one else cares about that ancient history any more.
I mean, most anti-g were defending those women based on how they were being treated, not necessarily what they were saying. And that's not to say that they were being terrible like 'Africa is a shit hole' and couldn't be defended

I've already had to defend Sarkesian this year on this forum from a decade old tweet that hasn't lead anywhere. Similarly, I know that Jordan Peterson is still making content (after he got better) but not about made up terms like Forced Monogamy. No one cares about him anymore except die hard fans and he has good advice as long as he's not telling us about chaos dragons or how trans are bad for asking you to use a pronoun.
 

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It is SO EASY to get right wingers to like someone, I swear...
You just have to come across as their brand of "manly"- ready to attack anything even remotely threatening in any way, promoting aggression over compassion, and constantly, constantly angry at the world for any and all perceived slights against your "machismo".
 
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Since I'm apparently LOADED with Covid, can I call in to my work and get a couple weeks off from this?
Can anyone explain to me how they think they should be treated? Because they're not taking Covid etc seriously and putting people in actual danger.

Is ostracizing for health reason too much?
 

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O....kay?
And that has what to do with weird dude bros getting super mad about the kotor remake within 10 minutes of posting their "I'm not gonna get super mad at stuff anymore" video?
Because I though the whole idea was to be intolerant of intolerance. Sam Maggs is pretty sexist and intolerant..........
 

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It must be a bit like what it was for Japanese soldiers still hiding in jungles in the 1960s because WW2 meant too much to them to accept it was over. When in doubt, bring up a feminist that G****g*** types hated years ago, even though no-one else cares about that ancient history any more.
Nah that seems to be the one certain people here like to try and bring up to own people they see a enemies now.
Seems it still lives rent free in some peoples heads.
 

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Can anyone explain to me how they think they should be treated? Because they're not taking Covid etc seriously and putting people in actual danger.

Is ostracizing for health reason too much?
Hydroxycl...errr..Ivermectin. Whatever their pet waifu alternative drug is this year.
 
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In July, “once-in-a-century” flash flooding killed nearly 200 people in western Germany and left 30,000 homeless, or without basic services, such as water and electricity. In the aftermath, a retired army colonel and leading figure in the country’s Querdenken anti-lockdown movement, named Maximillian Eder, announced that he was going to visit Ahrweiler, one of the worst-hit areas in the country.

On a YouTube livestream by the group “Honk for Hope,” which had previously organized buses to anti-lockdown protests in cities across Germany, Eder called for a “unit” of like-minded individuals to ride down to the flooded area and work at a Querdenken stall to hand out food, flashlights and other “everyday necessities” to individuals affected by the disaster. He said that the local council was “letting people down terribly,” because it had rejected his offer to coordinate all rescue operations.

Shortly before, Eder, who lives in the southern state of Bavaria, had appeared at an anti-lockdown protest in Berlin, calling for a military coup. In his YouTube stream, he wore his old uniform. “If I arrive somewhere in jeans, I have to explain who I am,” he said. A doctor named Bodo Schiffmann, who regularly tells his 140,000 Telegram followers that most people who get vaccines will die and compares healthcare professionals to the mass-murderers of Nazi Germany, appeared in the same broadcast, promising “to get non-bureaucratic help directly to flood victims.”

The floods, which occurred after two months’ worth of rain poured down on western Germany in just two days, killed 141 people in Ahrweiler alone. German prosecutors have launched an investigation against the conservative head of the district, Jürgen Pföhler, on grounds of “negligent homicide.” They allege that he failed to adequately warn and evacuate residents who lived near the River Ahr, which broke its banks, destroying bridges, roads and homes and injuring hundreds of people.

In response to the disaster, large numbers of people have donated to crowdfunded campaigns to provide relief. In just a few days, Schiffmann received €700,000 in donations to his PayPal account, which he had promised would “100%” go directly to flood victims. However, the money remained in Schiffmann’s personal account, which PayPal froze in early August for undisclosed reasons. Around 2000 firefighters, police officers, soldiers and official rescue workers were deployed to the Ahr Valley. Meanwhile, according to the Ahrweiler emergency services, more than 5,000 volunteers from all over the country registered to hand out cooked meals and supplies, including flashlights, batteries and blankets to the people of Ahrweiler.

Along with aid from concerned citizens, authorities have also seen a surge of disinformation in flood zones. At a July press conference, the national government spokesperson Ulrike Demmer warned that false information was being spread with the aim of “aggravating and exploiting the tense situation and the completely understandable uncertainty of the people affected, harming trust in state measures and institutions.”

In the North Rhine Westphalia, which neighbors Ahrweiler, intelligence officers observed that “members of the Querdenken movement” were “arriving in the flooded regions from across the country.”

While members of radical right-wing political parties, including like the National Democratic Party and Der Dritte Weg (Third Way), traveled to Ahrweiler and took selfies amid the wreckage, a number of Querdenkers arrived to offer therapy for traumatized children, driving what they referred to as “peace vehicles.” On July 20, local police tweeted that right-wing extremists were posing as “carers” and one such vehicle — painted to look like a police car — was using a megaphone to spread “fake news” that official rescue workers were soon to leave the scene. The mayor of the town of Sinzig told the national broadcaster Deutschlandfunk that another had driven through his town, announcing that a “second wave” of floods was imminent.

Querdenken activity has exacerbated the chaos and fear experienced by a population already reeling from the effects of the floods. In the first two weeks after the deluge, “there was no electricity or internet for people to check the rumors they were hearing,” said one 22-year-old student, who asked to be referred to simply as Clara, raising privacy concerns.

Across the Ahr valley, word-of-mouth speculation about potential dam failures drove people to flee their homes, many leaving all their belongings behind. “My brother was volunteering in Sinzig, when a peace car drove by, announcing, ’The dam has burst, run!’” Clara added. ‘There was no dam nearby, but some people began to run in panic, while others broke down crying.”

At its height, the Querdenken movement held anti-lockdown protests that attracted tens of thousands of attendees in cities across the country. In recent months, however, it has shrunk to a core group of increasingly radical individuals and pivoted from criticism of Covid-19 restrictions to extreme anti-state and anti-globalist rhetoric. In April, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution — Germany’s federal domestic intelligence organization — announced that it would start surveilling Querdenken members and that it had set up a new category of extremism especially for them, defined as “actions that delegitimize the state.”

According to Pia Lamberty, co-director of the Berlin-based think tank the Center for Monitoring, Analysis and Strategy, this new category is problematic, because it ignores the antisemitic and far-right background of many Querdenken protesters and frames criticism of the government and its actions as the main problem. She worries that the designation could be used by law enforcement and intelligence agencies to investigate protest groups that exist far from the fringes of the radical right wing, such as environmental activists and police abolitionists.

“The new category can be used differently, depending on who has political power,” Lamberty said. “It could eventually be used to go after legitimate criticism.”

Like Eder, many of the Querdenkers expressing extreme anti-government views appear to share backgrounds in the military or police force. After the floods in Ahrweiler, Eder and dozens of former officers occupied an empty primary school in the city Bad Neuenahr-Ahrweiler to offer medical aid, hand out meals and supplies near a sign that read “We are here. Where is your government?”

According to Sascha Klose — a rescue worker for the volunteer-run Federal Agency of Technical Relief, who lives in the village of Fritzdorf — people seeking help were met with a barrage of wild theories, among them that the disaster was planned and caused by chemicals that the German government had released over the district by airplane.

A significant number of the people who joined Eder in Ahrweiler belong to a 5,000 member Telegram group called Veteranen-Pool, set up in April to encourage army veterans and former police officers to fulfil their “soldiers’ duty” and stand between Querdenken protesters and serving law enforcement officers. The group includes a former soldier named Frank Horn, who told the German news program Kontraste that he aims to prepare its members for the day when the state collapses, so they can arrest politicians for imposing lockdown measures and bring them to the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

Eder’s group — one of whom was filmed by the public broadcaster ZDF showing neo-Nazi tattoos — were removed from the primary school on July 30, following orders from the city council, but reports continue to surface of Querdenkers volunteering in the region.

For the past few weeks, authorities in Ahrweiler have repeatedly had to reassure locals that official organizations, such as the fire brigade and the Federal Agency for Technical Relief, have no intention of ending their relief efforts.

A recent report by the North Rhine Westphalia’s intelligence service found that while the aims of the Querdenken movement are more blurry than those of right-wing extremists, its prevailing “discourses clearly aim to overthrow the state.”

As the locals in Ahrweiler begin to rebuild their lives, not everyone is keen to listen to the conspiracy theories promoted by Querdenkers.. Sascha Klose even recalled seeing one of Eder’s team being punched in the face by a local resident.

“He had one of the sides of his house ripped out and found a severed head floating in his living room,” she said. “After hearing a story like that, the veterans had responded by telling him that the rain had been artificially created.”
 

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Last week three vigilantes in Tuscon, Arizona made news for threatening a citizens’ arrest of a school principal.

In response to what is an objectively reasonable request that a student exposed to COVID-19 quarantine, the student’s father, an unnamed community member, and a local business owner drove to the school. They confronted the school’s principal, brought zip ties, and threatened to arrest her. The local businessman live streamed the incident via his business’s Instagram account. The principal left her office and the police were called. The vigilantes left the school before the police arrived. They were arrested and charged a few days later.

Everything about this incident falls outside the norms of how people should behave in public, especially if you’re a parent of a child enrolled at the school. But I was especially struck at the role streaming and video played in this incident. These folks clearly weren’t worried about consequences for their actions. They wanted the world to see them and broadcast themselves threatening a school employee live on the Internet! They were seeking to create a viral moment.

Schools are at the center of the Right’s current outrage strategy, and school board meetings across the US are the preferred stage to pull stunts. Far-Right groups like the Proud Boys are teaming up with local Right Wing activists to threaten school boards. Threats, harassment, and near-violent incidents at school board meetings are now common occurrences. So it’s not surprising when the AP reports that school board members nationwide are quitting or considering quitting their posts.

We know about some incidents because the same agitators who instigate them also live stream and record their work on video. They upload highlights to YouTube and other social networks. They rely on outrage from both the left and the right, plus media coverage, to help their antics go viral online. Judging by the national news coverage of school board meetings, their strategy has been a resounding success.

School boards are an easy target. Parents across the political spectrum are frustrated both by closures and reopening plans and tensions are high already. Because of this interest, local media is more likely to cover school board meetings. If you’re a wannabe far-right influencer disrupting a school board meeting is an easy way to make a splash online. If your content is outrageous enough, there’s an entire national network of MAGA fans ready and willing to amplify it and catapult you to 15 minutes of fame.

Would-be influencers have plenty of role models to emulate. The Republican Party’s biggest stars have mastered virality from Trump, to Ted Cruz and Jim Jordan turning Congressional hearings into their personal circus stages, to Marjorie Taylor Greene, who essentially stalked and harassed her way from MAGA activist to member of Congress. The career path from obscurity to America’s next MAGA Star runs through live streaming and viral video.

It’s been a tried and true strategy since the early days of the Tea Party. In 2009 Tea Party activists swarmed Congressional Town Halls across the nation. A leaked memo from a Tea Party activist during that time outlines the strategy:

From the memo:

“ — Artificially Inflate Your Numbers: “Spread out in the hall and try to be in the front half. The objective is to put the Rep on the defensive with your questions and follow-up. The Rep should be made to feel that a majority, and if not, a significant portion of at least the audience, opposes the socialist agenda of Washington.”
— Be Disruptive Early And Often: “You need to rock-the-boat early in the Rep’s presentation, Watch for an opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep’s statements early.”
— Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate: “The goal is to rattle him, get him off his prepared script and agenda. If he says something outrageous, stand up and shout out and sit right back down. Look for these opportunities before he even takes questions.””
I want to note that Congressional Town Halls don’t happen nearly as often now and haven’t since former Arizona Congresswoman Gabby Giffords and 17 people were shot at a town hall near Tuscon (near where the school zip ties incident took place.) Giffords survived the shooting, but six of the victims — including one of her staff and a 9-year-old child — did not. I mention this because the potential for more violence at school board meetings is high, and we may likely see one of these incidents end in violence in the future.

So what can the Left do to counter all of this? I’ll be honest — there’s no easy fix. Social media and our current political discourse rewards extremes and the Left will never win a battle of trying to be more outrageous than the Right. Nor should we want to.

But we’re also not offering much at all in the way of counter-programming. A recent analysis of Critical Race Theory discourse from Stop Online Violence Against Women brings this home. The report found that “[c]onservative media and organizations have dominated and controlled the discourse and disinformation around CRT to an alarming degree on key social networks. There is a void of Black voices and scholarship in these narratives. More importantly, the mainstream media in the U.S. have taken a backseat and rather than taking a proactive, essential stance based on data and fact, are simply perpetuating and amplifying the anti-CRT discourse.” Essentially the Right found a data void and the Left didn’t bother with counter-programming much at all.

When I tweeted about this topic, folks honed in on how the Left needs to get better at video content. And that’s true — but just producing more and better video won’t be enough. This is so much bigger than the Right’s ability to exploit virality online.

The larger problem is that there’s generally no cost for this kind of behavior. Instead, it’s rewarded. Going back to the school incident in Tuscon, I’m struck by just how brazen these folks were, assuming (perhaps correctly) that they could threaten a school principal with violence, broadcast themselves in the act, and not face consequences. The Tuscon vigilantes were eventually arrested and charged, but I worry that in the long term their assumption will prove correct — and there will indeed be no real cost for their actions.
 

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Hydroxycl...errr..Ivermectin. Whatever their pet waifu alternative drug is this year.
Well, I was trying to say that even if you believe in these drugs effectiveness, that doesn't stop you from getting COVID and transmitting it to me
 

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You know what's a funny event in the anti woke world?

That a new Star Wars game gets announced and that despite the trailer only lasting a few seconds and telling us nothing, the alt right immediately goes ''SJW! I SEE AN SJW! THE GAME IS GONNA BE WOKE! REEEEEEE!!!!!!''

It sounds paranoid and more than a little undignified.
Apparently(I haven't seen of this yet), the New God of War is also WOKE. Because there's a black woman in the cast now.

Eyup. Remember, Anti-Wokism isn't connected to Racism at all. They just happen to share a bed and snuggle really really closely together but that's just because they're really cold and the libs took away their blankets and heating oil so they have no other choice. NO HOMO!
 

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Apparently(I haven't seen of this yet), the New God of War is also WOKE. Because there's a black woman in the cast now.

Eyup. Remember, Anti-Wokism isn't connected to Racism at all. They just happen to share a bed and snuggle really really closely together but that's just because they're really cold and the libs took away their blankets and heating oil so they have no other choice. NO HOMO!
But are they wearing socks?
 
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Apparently(I haven't seen of this yet), the New God of War is also WOKE. Because there's a black woman in the cast now.

Eyup. Remember, Anti-Wokism isn't connected to Racism at all. They just happen to share a bed and snuggle really really closely together but that's just because they're really cold and the libs took away their blankets and heating oil so they have no other choice. NO HOMO!
These idiots seem to forget that the God of War series had several black actors doing voice work. Kratos has two different voice actors; both are black. Atlas, a character that appears in God of War II is voiced by Michael Clark Duncan (RIP). I find it funny that they forget about this, or better yet, are a bunch of dumb assholes who didn't know in the first place. Yet didn't care until somebody looked dark skin or black. They all seem to forget that even though Kratos is Greek, he was dark-skinned before he had those ashes put upon his flesh. These are some huge dumb-asses.
 
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Apparently(I haven't seen of this yet), the New God of War is also WOKE. Because there's a black woman in the cast now.

Eyup. Remember, Anti-Wokism isn't connected to Racism at all. They just happen to share a bed and snuggle really really closely together but that's just because they're really cold and the libs took away their blankets and heating oil so they have no other choice. NO HOMO!
Funny thing is..........well........... the character is the mother of monsters.............so yeh it's very Anti-Woke to really celebrate the character because if you stop and reason out the change and look at if from a cultural perspective it becomes very unwoke.

So in the original Myths Angrboda is the 2nd wife of Loki and gives birth to Fenrir the wolf whom when he breaks free Valhalla will fall and Ragnarok start. So in context of the game Atreus who is Loki will help cause the destruction of Valhalla in part because he ends up in a Mixed race relationship now.........Just holy crap did no-one think this move through? Also Holy crap does it show the issue with judging a character as been progressive or regressive based purely on their skin colour and not spending a few minutes or so to think through beyond that