Funny events in anti-woke world

[Agema]

Any number of people in Germany said they didn't know what was happening. Mind you, Albert Speer admitted that he made sure not to know.

Some people are so disinterested in politics that they can be incredibly unaware. I have a colleague like that: she knows some stuff about current affairs, but only in the most general way, like happening to be in the room when other people talk about the news.

But I think Speer's comment speaks volumes. Whilst relatively few Germans might have known about the Holocaust, I suspect most Germans had heard enough to have good reason to believe it was going on. I'm sure many, very deliberately, didn't want to find out more.

 

[BrawlMan]

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[BrawlMan]

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Heavy Hearts dev Dammitbird received the following notice from Steam, noting “your app has failed our review because we're unable to support the Early Access model of development for a game with mature themes” This strikes me as overcompliance and censorious on Steam’s part

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[Phoenixmgs]

Which means your sample size is overestimated. If even just 5% didn't have it during that period, your sample size is inflated by almost 4 million. That means its inflated by about 15 times the entire hospitalised subgroup.

Its difficult to overstate how goddamn slapdash you are with numbers.



Which number are you even disputing, at the moment? The 5 excess per million-- the 0.0005%-- is from your link, it wasn't introduced by me.



"Need" / "don't need" is a value judgement. I'm not arguing against your value judgement.

You have repeatedly said immunity to severe disease "doesn't wane for normal people". That's where the goalposts are, that's what you said.

What the hell are you talking about? How the fuck do you get 15 times? Are you just trolling?

- 70 million is 95% of 74 million, you have 234,000 hospitalized and 1.8% of hospitalized are 4,212.
- 4,212 / 74 million x 100 = 0.0057%
- 4,212 / 70 million x 100 = 0.0060%

How the fuck is that a 15x difference? If I rounded to the thousandths, they would be the same number but in your math world, there's a 15x difference?

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YOUR POOL is not 4,212 because ACCORDING TO YOUR STUDY, 1.8% of adolescents WITH SEVERE COVID (in the ICU or MIS-C) got arrhythmia. Thus, it's not 1.8% of 234,000. It's 1.8% of some unknown number that is much smaller 234,000 and the 1.8% of that unknown number is much smaller than 4,212.

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Your study literally confirms what I said...

You are so deluded and blind it's like you have been living with a virtual reality helmet over your head.
I would have some sympathy for you to the extent that it was placed there by outside forces moulding what you see and think, but there's no excuse for keeping it on when the evidence of the world being in the hands of literal madmen is so blatant.

Maybe one day you will wake up and be horrified at what you've slept through, but whatever point that point would be would literally have to be civilisation ending to get through to you.

When have republicans removed people from ballots (at least in the last 10 years or so)? When have republicans constantly and legally gone after the the democrat's top candidate?

 

[Schadrach]

Collective shout puts out their true reasoning for targeting games (which we all knew at this point)
"Legality Is Not The Defining Factor"

"Legality Is Not The Defining Factor": Steam Censorship Campaign Details It Seeks Removal Of Games Whether Legal Or Not

"If Steam and itch.io had been moderating their platforms as they should have, there would have been no need to temporarily delist games."

www.thegamer.com

"Our work focuses on combating the sexual objectification and exploitation of women and girls, so we focus our energy there," says Roper. "That said, we call out this objectification and abusive depictions of women and girls even where they are not illegal. Legality is not the defining factor; it is about documented evidence of harm to women and girls."

This sounds like something that could have been a direct quote from people that much of this forum would have actively supported several years back. I find it amusing that the slippery slope is suddenly very obvious and very real when the censorious weirdo invoking protecting women as an excuse is a right wing Christian type ala the various groups in the 90s and before and not someone who's a lefty intersectional feminist spouting the same kinds of rhetoric. The biggest difference is that this bunch of censorious weirdos actually got a bunch of things pulled from storefronts, making them more effective than average.

That said fuck them, for exactly the same reasons people were telling any of the various other censorious weirdos to fuck off for the last several decades.

 

[Hades]

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I know cruelty is the point and that kicking the plebs to the curb is fun for them, but perhaps it would be more strategic if the CEO just bought a hat rather than stealing it from a kid with camera's pointed at him. Even if stealing from kids appeals to him from an ideological standpoint.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I know cruelty is the point and that kicking the plebs to the curb is fun for them, but perhaps it would be more strategic if the CEO just bought a hat rather than stealing it from a kid with camera's pointed at him. Even if stealing from kids appeals to him from an ideological standpoint.

Or just wait until the camera isn't pointed at them, or do it in such a way that people are harmed indirectly so he can pretend he's not to blame.

 

[Agema]

Or just wait until the camera isn't pointed at them, or do it in such a way that people are harmed indirectly so he can pretend he's not to blame.

Once again, the internet masses rise up against a one-off incident of a millionaire screwing over someone else, yet remain definatly complacent about them doing so systematically as the everyday way of the world.

 

[Kwak]

When have republicans removed people from ballots (at least in the last 10 years or so)? When have republicans constantly and legally gone after the the democrat's top candidate?

Just glossing over the actual FUCKING REASON'S they were doing that.
And your blindness to what true political weaponisation of government departments ACTUALLY looks like as it's happening right now just demonstrates the cognitive dissonance.

 

[Silvanus]

What the hell are you talking about? How the fuck do you get 15 times? Are you just trolling?

- 70 million is 95% of 74 million, you have 234,000 hospitalized and 1.8% of hospitalized are 4,212.
- 4,212 / 74 million x 100 = 0.0057%
- 4,212 / 70 million x 100 = 0.0060%

How the fuck is that a 15x difference? If I rounded to the thousandths, they would be the same number but in your math world, there's a 15x difference?

Amount by which you overestimated, if 5% did not get covid during the observation period: 4 million

Hospitalised subgroup: 234k

234k x 15 = 3.5 million.

YOUR POOL is not 4,212 because ACCORDING TO YOUR STUDY, 1.8% of adolescents WITH SEVERE COVID (in the ICU or MIS-C) got arrhythmia. Thus, it's not 1.8% of 234,000. It's 1.8% of some unknown number that is much smaller 234,000 and the 1.8% of that unknown number is much smaller than 4,212.

Right, so your issue isn't really with the 1.8 figure, it's with the fact we don't know the relative sizes of the hospitalised subgroup and the 'severe covid' subgroup. To be fair, you're right that the latter is gonna be smaller. I've tried to dig up the numbers-- I can see the 'severe covid' cohort for the study was 3600, pulled from a covid registry that covered 63 hospitals over <2 years. But I can't find the total size of that registry. So, we might be at a dead end there.

But let me ask, how much does this matter? Tachyarrhythmia is one of the complications. Fundamentally, you're arguing that the risks-- all the risks-- posed by Covid to otherwise-healthy adolescents is outweighed by the 0.0005% greater risk of mild myocarditis posed by the vaccine.

So here's another way of looking at that question. 0.0005% of 74 million is 370. Which means if every single adolescent got that specific vaccine, that's how many would be estimated to suffer mild myocarditis that wouldn't have otherwise had it. 370.

...The cohort for severe, acute Covid in that study was 3600. From just 63 hospitals. Of the 6000 hospitals in the United States. And it already drastically outweighs the number you're worried about.

In short: there is literally no way the risk from the vaccine can possibly even approach the risk of severe, acute covid, even for adolescents.

Your study literally confirms what I said...

Absolutely nowhere in that study does it say immunity never wanes.

 

[Seanchaidh]

So glad the British state is providing clandestine support to independent media. We would not want there to be disinformation lurking in local reporting, now would we?

BBC Media Action: Britain’s overseas info warfare unit - The Grayzone

Leaked documents reveal how a shadowy BBC unit is “embedding” staff in foreign media outlets to “contest the information space” and generate “behaviour change” in favor of London’s geopolitical objectives. Though BBC Media Action (BBCMA) portrays itself as the “international charity” of the...

thegrayzone.com

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

A veteran arrested a month after taking part in a protest against ICE is being charged for "conspiracy".

Alarm after FBI arrests US army veteran for ‘conspiracy’ over protest against Ice

Legal experts say the charges against Afghanistan war veteran Bajun Mavalwalla II mark an escalation in the Trump administration’s crackdown on first amendment rights

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“He’s a test case to see how far they can go,” said Luis Miranda, a former chief spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security under Joe Biden.

Under this law, prosecutors won’t have to prove that Mavalwalla blocked the bus or attacked agents, Antkowiak said. “The major issue in a conspiracy case is intent,” he said. “You have to prove an agreement. You don’t have to prove that people sat down together and made a pledge. You don’t even have to write up an agreement they have verbally, but you have to prove that these people agreed to act in concert,” he said.

How long before we start seeing more people arrested just for protesting, with charges of "conspiracy"? Will this be Emperor Trump's way to get people for "treason"?

 

[Gergar12]

Bored people do crappy things.

edit:

How Ohio became a hotbed of white supremacism, spreading its tentacles globally | Stephen Starr

Rise of a resurgent American white supremacism is reaching around the globe, often with deadly consequences

www.theguardian.com

 

[BrawlMan]

Your nostalgia is not your own.

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[BrawlMan]

Racist Town Gets Pranked.
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[Trunkage]

Ah but its not just about Trump's supporters, but also about ''normal'' right wingers, centrists that voted Republican this election or left wing voters who stayed home. They all knew what was at stake.

Most people in America no longer believe in the American Dream... or believe that it never even existed

They want to BURN it all down. Can you think of a better way to burn down America than electing Trump and getting RFK in healthcare?

They aren't voting FOR a system that is better. They voting AGAINST the system

 

[Trunkage]

You are so deluded and blind it's like you have been living with a virtual reality helmet over your head.
I would have some sympathy for you to the extent that it was placed there by outside forces moulding what you see and think, but there's no excuse for keeping it on when the evidence of the world being in the hands of literal madmen is so blatant.

Maybe one day you will wake up and be horrified at what you've slept through, but whatever point that point would be would literally have to be civilisation ending to get through to you.

Your saying this like fascism isn't what Phoenixmgs wants. They will give up literally anything and everything for a sense of security. Not real security, just a sense. Phoenix will never be horrified. He will cheer it on while everyone, including themself, burns

 

[Agema]

So here's another way of looking at that question. 0.0005% of 74 million is 370. Which means if every single adolescent got that specific vaccine, that's how many would be estimated to suffer mild myocarditis that wouldn't have otherwise had it. 370.

This is one of the most bewildering debates about covid, and a sign of just how successful the anti-vax misinformation was. The risk of myocarditis was higher from Covid than it was for even the most risky vaccine. We've known this for years.

And as you note, that's just myocarditis alone, not even including all the other ways Covid could harm someone. And yet people with politicised agendas are still making a thing about it: myocarditis was recently deployed as a justification to withdraw vaccine access in the USA.

And therein lies another key consideration: back in pandemic days, certain people were against masks and vaccine mandates on the basis of individual freedom. Now they've got control of the healthcare system, they've used this patently bullshit science to restrict the vaccine and limit the freedom of people who might want it.

 

[Silvanus]

So glad the British state is providing clandestine support to independent media. We would not want there to be disinformation lurking in local reporting, now would we?

BBC Media Action: Britain’s overseas info warfare unit - The Grayzone

Leaked documents reveal how a shadowy BBC unit is “embedding” staff in foreign media outlets to “contest the information space” and generate “behaviour change” in favor of London’s geopolitical objectives. Though BBC Media Action (BBCMA) portrays itself as the “international charity” of the...

thegrayzone.com

As you recently said, "there's that guy again".

Kit Klarenberg, formerly of Russia Today and Sputnik, argues we shouldn't trust media output if it has ties to a state broadcaster and pushes that government's narrative. Hm, perhaps he has a point!

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Your saying this like fascism isn't what Phoenixmgs wants. They will give up literally anything and everything for a sense of security. Not real security, just a sense. Phoenix will never be horrified. He will cheer it on while everyone, including themself, burns

There is only one thing that horrifies Phoenixmgs, and that is a world that doesn't laud him above all others and tongue-bathe his ego every minute of the day. A world where people who aren't exactly like him might have a moment's consideration is anathema to him.