Gabe Newell Wants the PS3 to Be Like a Mac

Blazing Steel

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Disapointed that Valve isn't gonna bring their games to the PS3 while they can to Mac, but shit happens and life goes on.

Now off to go the orange box on the PS3...
 

FinalDream

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If he spent less time complaining and more time working with the PS3 maybe, just maybe, Valve might realise that you can develop great games for the PS3. Instead all we get is Gabe spitting out his dummy because it's too hard.
 

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Xanthious said:
Congrats Gabe, it already is!!! If by "Like a Mac" you mean closed and hard to develop for. . .
I don't see why anyone bothers developing games for the Mac at all to be honest. Its a hassle.

And come to think of it, I don't believe the PS3 is more of a hassle to develop for than the Mac, probably less so.
 

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Brotherofwill said:
Uncompetative said:
Frank_Sinatra_ said:
And here is a Gamer who wants Gabe to start acting like a fucking adult and get over the difficulty of programming of a PS3.
It may well have something to do with the number of employees he has at his disposal:

Valve = 225

Ubisoft = 5750

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Corporation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubisoft
Why the comparison to Ubisoft of all things?
They develop for PS3, 360, Wii, PSP, DS, Windows, iPhone etc. However, covering all those platforms obviously requires more staff.
 

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cursedseishi said:
It's rather nonsensical to be complaining about the system. You don't have to make, or even port games if you don't want to. And while this would of been fine and dandy the first time he said it, cause hey, it would explain why he doesn't want to make games for it.

But god, how many times has he felt like he needed to say "Lawl PS3 FAIL"? Cause guess what Gabe, the PS3 doesn't seem to be bothering anyone whose put more than a minute into working with it. Uncharted 2 would definitely love to say hello, as would Killzone 2, or LittleBigPlanet.

Speaking of that last game, maybe that's why Gabe hates the PS3. Media Molecule beat him to the punch in releasing a fun physics-based game, and he thinks he's the only one allowed ever to make those.
Wait, did you compare Half-Life 2 to LBP because both have innovative physics features? (Is the physics in LPB really that innovative? i dunno, ive not played it)

Secondly, the reason why he keeps bringing it up is so that Sony makes a change. The PS2 was shit to program for, and so is the PS3. Developers shouldn't have to deal with an inefficient design, and Valve is pretty much saying they dont want to, and wont. Its not like its impossible to work with the PS3, you clearly stated some games which are technically very good, but that doesn't mean the system is easy to work with. To be honest, i see it as a good thing that he keeps bringing it up, it will hopefully push Sony to make changes in the next generation or something.
 

reg42

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Maybe spend a bit more time making Ep3 and a little less time bashing the PS3, yeah?
 

soapyshooter

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Will he ever stop bitching? God, its getting to the point where he is like the leader of the 360 fanboys
 

Kenjitsuka

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Valve makes good games, yes.
Valve releases their good games often, no.
Valve commenting on how PS3 sucks, trivial.

Yay for next to a PS3 also owning a 360 and PC.
And triple yay for not having any Macs in a 300 yard radius by restraining order if need be :p
 

Cryo84R

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Funny how people hating on a system they have no idea about is always popular around here.
 

JWAN

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soapyshooter said:
Will he ever stop bitching? God, its getting to the point where he is like the leader of the 360 fanboys
Only talking about PS3's and Macs...
 

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Deofuta said:
Hmmm is it possible that when he speaks of the gamecube he is referring to the special disk format? Or is there something else that stopped the gamecube from being considered 'open'?
Nintendo going nuts and trying to eliminate all their indie developers by lawsuit zerging, media bitching and a deliberately obtuse OS.
 

Tom Phoenix

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cursedseishi said:
Speaking of that last game, maybe that's why Gabe hates the PS3. Media Molecule beat him to the punch in releasing a fun physics-based game, and he thinks he's the only one allowed ever to make those.
Wait a second, that makes no sense. Half-Life 2 was physics-based and was released four years earlier, while Portal came out a year before Little Big Planet. How exactly did Media Molecule beat Valve to the punch?

In any case, while I believe Newell that PS3 is a difficult platform to design games for (afterall, there is a reason why it's library of games is limited compared to the other two consoles), I do not see why he continues to pursue this topic. Just say that you can't develop for the PS3 and be done with it. I doubt many people, if any, will hold it against you.
 

johnman

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You know what gabe? The old Steam Ui was just fine, getting steam on MAC wasn't 100% nessescary, do we really need more l4d and tf2 updates? Nobody cares what you think about sony
What everybody really wants to know about is episode 3, anything, its been 3 maybe 4 years now and you have not even menitoned it, apart from not stating your mentioning it
 

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Dark Templar said:
Xanthious said:
Congrats Gabe, it already is!!! If by "Like a Mac" you mean closed and hard to develop for. . .
I don't see why anyone bothers developing games for the Mac at all to be honest. Its a hassle.
Because there are millions of hardcore Mac users who wouldn't otherwise buy their games?