As the owner of a pair of boobs, I found this pretty funny. I can see how some people might be offended, but I thought the spirit was light-hearted and self-aware.
Gallery of the Day - Pixelated Boobs
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No, you don't have to support or defend it. You could not leave a comment. I can't imagine you click on threads about video games you don't like just to leave a comment saying "I don't like this game".Jarimir said:
The article wasn't actually inviting a discussion about whether or not there should be breasts in video games. Hell, it wasn't actually inviting a discussion at all!Jarimir said:
If I were to write an article saying "look at these awesome cars", I wouldn't expect people to interpret that as an invitation to discuss whether or not cars shouldn't be allowed because they pollute the environment.
I think you've got it a bit backwards there. All forms of media have always had sex/nudity, and in recent times games have become part of it all as graphics/pixels have been stepped-up. It was our responsibility as gamers to show ourselves as mature/intellectual/etc and NOT react to it by going batshit insane, either accept it as part of gaming (like all media) OR give whatever criticism we have for said game(s) and move on.Aikayai said:
Games won't "get away from this rut" as long as there is a large audience who keep buying that rut - sex sells and games are no exception. If we really want to come across as mature intellectual "modern geeks", it's our responsibility to show the industry we mean business.
If it's really such a big deal to people, all they have to do is prove that games with over-sexualized/exploited females are not wanted by the market (or need to become less common). Considering we ARE the market, it shouldn't be too hard to lets our wallets do the talking right?
Oh look, a new Dead Or Alive game! *buys it*
I am also confused.Aikayai said:
I mean as a general rule when people insistently nag me to do something I have no want nor reason to do myself, somebody at least agrees to sleep with me in recompense for the inconvenience that preforming the request would cause me. This endless bitching about games like DOA or Dragon's Crown is like having a female friend come over to vet your porn collection so that you can both enjoy watching them together. Followed by her stalking you to make sure you never accidentally buy or consume any further pornography without her either being there or having her approval.
It's fucking inappropriate that's what it is.
And how about you take a break from telling the rest of us what to do and work on minding your own business about what games other people want to play. If I wish to play a game like Dragon's Crown, it is absolutely no business of yours. The choices I make as a consumer are not open to decision delivered down via committee. I don't want a pasteurised, homogenous and sterile gaming experience, and I'm willing to support niche titles that offer developers a higher return for a smaller than average budget. The question you should be asking yourself isn't, 'how can I stop people who like video games I dislike from doing that' -but rather, 'how can I organise the people who like video games that I like to start doing that as well'.Jarimir said:
I have heard frequent requests for there to be more diversity in gaming. The pity I find with these requests is that they are more often then not a thinly disguised demand for a cultural hegemony in alignment with the complaint's own political beliefs. Because asking for more diversity in video games by asking for less diversity in video games is not unlike fucking for virginity, in that it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Thank-you for your brilliant display of doublespeak. You should truly consider going into politics because you seem to have the knack for what it requires.Jarimir said:
You claim..
And yet in the exact same post you type..Jarimir said:
Demanding that Dragon's Crown be altered is as good as demanding that it not be made in the first place. It doesn't really matter whether the person making the demand is in a position to make others listen to them, and enact the changes they want. It is a Theseus's paradox. Such a radical shift in art direction would result in a game that was quite unlike the game that was originally released. It would not be the same game. And so asking for one game to be made instead of the other is therefore a demand that Dragon's Crown not be made in the first place.Jarimir said:
You go on..
And the Escapist is what passes for a progressive mainstream gaming website. Despite that, 61.7% of respondents at time of writing seem to just don't give a fuck. Only 38.3% actually have fucks to give about the subject, with a near even break up of 19.8% for sexualisation to 18.5% against sexualisation. But that is completely beside the point, because it has never been OK for a larger section of the population to dictate to the smaller section what sort of media should be available for consumption. All that matters is enough people want to buy Dragon's Crown to justify the costs of localisation and release in the west. And that is the only reason why it is up for sale in the first place. It's not like the 19.8% for sexualisation in video games has far greater financial pull then the 18.5% against sexualisation, it just comes down to the fact that games released for the Japanese market happen to be a lot sexier than their western counterparts. And when those games are given the localisation treatment for a western release, all it would do is end up costing the company money to make the sorts of unnecessary changes that your 18.5% would like to see implemented and is a selling point to an equal amount of people and that nobody else gives a shit about.Jarimir said: