Omnific One said:Perhaps, but one set of hype is actually based on about 10 million customers and glowing reviews across the board, while the other was based on marketing.
I have nothing against praise - in moderation. What's happening is that none of the 10 million fans of the game bring up the flaws, and almost all the reviewers pass them off as token. Which is not something everyone will be able to do.SirBryghtside said:So your argument against Skyrim being praised is that Skyrim is being praised.
Exception, not rule.SirBryghtside said:Yup. Totally in denial about those flaws over here. [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=66798&start=1760#p2855914]leet_x1337 said:Omnific One said:Perhaps, but one set of hype is actually based on about 10 million customers and glowing reviews across the board, while the other was based on marketing.I have nothing against praise - in moderation. What's happening is that none of the 10 million fans of the game bring up the flaws, and almost all the reviewers pass them off as token. Which is not something everyone will be able to do.SirBryghtside said:So your argument against Skyrim being praised is that Skyrim is being praised.
Here's the thing: do you guys want to know a game that was even more deeply flawed than Skyrim?
Well, that wasn't suddenly pulled out of nowhere. Also, earlier I was talking about Oblivion, which got even higher scores across the board than Skyrim did.SirBryghtside said:Then we're in agreement. I have the opinion that everyone who considers Skyrim to be a perfect game is an absolute moron. Planning on doing a review once I've done my third playthrough (psycho-lesbian-stealth-ninja). And that's just reminded me of a thread I was going to do. Hooray!leet_x1337 said:Exception, not rule.SirBryghtside said:Yup. Totally in denial about those flaws over here. [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=66798&start=1760#p2855914]leet_x1337 said:Omnific One said:Perhaps, but one set of hype is actually based on about 10 million customers and glowing reviews across the board, while the other was based on marketing.I have nothing against praise - in moderation. What's happening is that none of the 10 million fans of the game bring up the flaws, and almost all the reviewers pass them off as token. Which is not something everyone will be able to do.SirBryghtside said:So your argument against Skyrim being praised is that Skyrim is being praised.
Here's the thing: do you guys want to know a game that was even more deeply flawed than Skyrim?
DNF was one of your favorite games? Your opinion is invalidated as you obviously suffer from severe brain damage.Assassin Xaero said:This is the reason why I never cared much forGOTY awardspopularity contests. Dragon Age 2, the sequel to the worst game I ever had to force myself to finish (which from play the demo and what I've heard, DA2 is even worse than DA:O) gets "honorable mention", while my three favorite games of the year (Rage, Duke Nukem Forever, and Bulletstorm) are no where on the list. Oh well, not like the awards make the games better or anything, I still get to have my fun with games that I actually enjoy.
If they have't played it yet, like me, they likely don't give a crap about the hype and thus have relatively average expectations of it. Clearly the vast majority of people who play this game are having an amazing time playing it, which if millions of people having a blast isn't a qualifier for game of the year, I don't know what is.leet_x1337 said:To people who haven't played it yet, it's still hype and it's still unlikely to live up to it.Omnific One said:That is one of the worst comparisons I think I've ever heard. One is pre-release hype, one is post-release hype. Those are so incredibly different.leet_x1337 said:Guess what? Skryim is so praised by everyone there's no way future historians will see it the same way as the gaming press and critics these days. Just like Duke Nukem Forever was panned mostly due to 12 years of excessive media-generated hype and didn't hold up, Skyrim won't hold up in future generations due to the excessive fan- and critic-generated hype right now.SirBryghtside said:Because Azura forbid that a game has flaws! What's your favourite game, by the way, so we can poke a million and one holes in that? OK, fine. You hate it. Well done, your opinion is obviously better than everyone else's. Have a bloody sticker.leet_x1337 said:Before I opened the article, I just knew you were going to keep praising Skyrim as the best game ever made, despite its numerous flaws (among them not one but two bad ports and the bugs in all three versions.) Either I'm psychic or every single game critic ever thinks that Plan 9 from Outer Space couldn't possibly be a better movie.
Argumentum ad hominem; everything you just said is now invalid.Sylveria said:If they have't played it yet, like me, they likely don't give a crap about the hype and thus have relatively average expectations of it. Clearly the vast majority of people who play this game are having an amazing time playing it, which if millions of people having a blast isn't a qualifier for game of the year, I don't know what is.leet_x1337 said:To people who haven't played it yet, it's still hype and it's still unlikely to live up to it.Omnific One said:That is one of the worst comparisons I think I've ever heard. One is pre-release hype, one is post-release hype. Those are so incredibly different.leet_x1337 said:Guess what? Skryim is so praised by everyone there's no way future historians will see it the same way as the gaming press and critics these days. Just like Duke Nukem Forever was panned mostly due to 12 years of excessive media-generated hype and didn't hold up, Skyrim won't hold up in future generations due to the excessive fan- and critic-generated hype right now.SirBryghtside said:Because Azura forbid that a game has flaws! What's your favourite game, by the way, so we can poke a million and one holes in that? OK, fine. You hate it. Well done, your opinion is obviously better than everyone else's. Have a bloody sticker.leet_x1337 said:Before I opened the article, I just knew you were going to keep praising Skyrim as the best game ever made, despite its numerous flaws (among them not one but two bad ports and the bugs in all three versions.) Either I'm psychic or every single game critic ever thinks that Plan 9 from Outer Space couldn't possibly be a better movie.
And yes, in 50 years after someone has played nothing but ultra-realistic virtual reality games on the iNINBOX-8000PS between fending off giant, mutant cockroach attacks, yeah, Skyrim isn't gonna wow them. Just like the people who play Star Fox now aren't really impressed by Mode 7 polygons as much as we were back in the early 90s.
Also, don't you see a difference between years of "The trailers make it look amazing!" and "I've put 500 hours into this game and it's amazing!"? Do you base the enjoyment of a movie or a meal on what you heard about rather than what you actually experienced? Man you must be the most suggestion-able human on the planet if you can be talked out of what you actually felt based on what you heard before hand. I could serve up some re-fried cow crap but if I talked it up before putting it before you, you'd swear it was the greatest meal you ever ate.
Is that going to keep happening after Call of Duty's bubble bursts and large fantasy RPGs with bad QA testing become the industry's most overused trend?SirBryghtside said:We're not blind, just accepting.
So me having an opinion that is different that others and me being able to understand that different people like different things (unlike some people) means I have brain damage? No, I think you are the one with brain damage. This might be a bit much for your weak mind to handle, but I also really liked Dirge of Cerberus.Sylveria said:DNF was one of your favorite games? Your opinion is invalidated as you obviously suffer from severe brain damage.Assassin Xaero said:This is the reason why I never cared much forGOTY awardspopularity contests. Dragon Age 2, the sequel to the worst game I ever had to force myself to finish (which from play the demo and what I've heard, DA2 is even worse than DA:O) gets "honorable mention", while my three favorite games of the year (Rage, Duke Nukem Forever, and Bulletstorm) are no where on the list. Oh well, not like the awards make the games better or anything, I still get to have my fun with games that I actually enjoy.
Don't do it.LobsterFeng said:So is it really that bad? I've been thinking about buying it, but all I have is a PS3.Trishbot said:Once again, the game my PS3 refuses to play wins a GOTY award.
OT: I really liked Skyward Sword, despite what people on this site may say. I'm glad it's at least up there in the list. I'm also glad Arkham City got an honorable mention.
You know, I'm happy that this thread [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3449674] exists. Because now I have something to link whenever someone says that DA2 had good characters, writing, or storytelling. Tragically, it was locked before its time and we will never get the chance to see the thrilling conclusion.Sonic Doctor said:Dragon Age 2
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the party members actually feel like real people but unique from each other.