pretty much nailed it. oberyn was there for dorne, and for revenge. everything else that factored in to it was either coincidence or a convenient advantage (tyrion being allies with dorne could have been helpful for myrcella's claim to the throne).Zhukov said:
Dude you're supposed to spoiler that bit. I did. Though apparently there are some people who don't understand that spoiler means... spoilers. So... I guess you're goodZhukov said:
Er...Nimzabaat said:Okay so from reading the responses, I stand corrected. I'll spoiler tag the rest because some people still don't get the spoiler thing. So this is for people who have read at least the first four books.
My bad. Thanks everybodyMy impression of Oberyn in the books was that he was a somewhat sympathetic character. In the duel between Oberyn and the Mountain, I thought that the audience is supposed to root for Oberyn. However as people have kindly pointed out, I misread that and he was in fact supposed to be more hateable than any of the preceding characters in the series so far (because there are more books in the works). Therefore the audience is supposed to be cheering when the Mountain bashes Oberyn's face in. In which case the casting and portrayal of Oberyn is, as i've been told, precisely in line with what was intended and what everyone else read.
What is the point of this sullen reaction to perfectly on-point feedback to your OP? You misread the character of Oberyn Martell. I'm not sure how there can be a lot of debate on that point.Nimzabaat said:Okay so from reading the responses, I stand corrected. I'll spoiler tag the rest because some people still don't get the spoiler thing. So this is for people who have read at least the first four books.
My bad. Thanks everybodyMy impression of Oberyn in the books was that he was a somewhat sympathetic character. In the duel between Oberyn and the Mountain, I thought that the audience is supposed to root for Oberyn. However as people have kindly pointed out, I misread that and he was in fact supposed to be more hateable than any of the preceding characters in the series so far (because there are more books in the works). Therefore the audience is supposed to be cheering when the Mountain bashes Oberyn's face in. In which case the casting and portrayal of Oberyn is, as i've been told, precisely in line with what was intended and what everyone else read.
Exactly! That was the Oberyn I read in the books. That was my point. We were supposed to like him, even if only just a little. When the duel happens you're supposed to root for Oberyn because as a side benefit Tyrion gets to go free, but also because he's a little likeable. This guy i'm watching in the show isn't funny, isn't likeable, and after those two I really don't care if he's a hero or not.Mcoffey said:
Please don't attribute a particular tone where none exists. I never said I was sullen, simply that I apparently misread the character.BloatedGuppy said:
I found it also interesting that Dorne uses a succession system where firstborns inherit regardless of gender, whereas all other succession systems in Westeros use a male-favored system. This was a system that was really only used in Navarra by the Basques.Godlikebuthumble said:
) but from what sounds to me it does seem he'd be more for fighting the mountain for revenge chance then 'saving' anyone... that's probably just a karmic bonus... but we'll see :3
