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Wait, 3 PAGES AND NO ONE HAS MENTIONED XENOBLADE?!
WHAT IIIISSSS THIIIIIIS?!
Below are MASSIVE MASSIVE SPOILERS.
I'm not kidding. Massive spoilers.
And there's also System Shock 2, which I JUST finished because Extra Credits was telling my I HAD TO PLAY IT.
WHAT IIIISSSS THIIIIIIS?!
Below are MASSIVE MASSIVE SPOILERS.
I'm not kidding. Massive spoilers.
First of all, the world is made up of two gigantic titans that everyone lives on. Machines live on one, living beings live on the other. The plot begins with the hero seeking revenge for the machines killing his childhood friend/ implied potential love interest, and getting the reality bending sword from his mentor, and being able to control it effortlessly, which is a surprise to everyone.
Ok, after a great plot leading up about a war against machines, finding out that the whole war is actually due to a cycle of revenge and fear STARTED BY THE GOD OF YOUR OWN SIDE who tried to murder the entire machine race (he was the one who started the titan war in the intro), who was then sealed away, until you released him but he then died...Oh, and the sorta-girlfriend from the beginning is alive and is now a cyborg with the soul of the machine goddess in her.
It comes to a climax where you confront the leader of the machine guys, he hijacks the gigantic titan the machine people are living on to try to murder everyone living on your titan, and the hero has the perfect opportunity to finish him off for good.....and he doesn't. He instead chooses to extend the hand of friendship and end the cycle of revenge, even though that's what set him off on his journey to begin with, and it looks like this is going to be the end of our epic conclusion...
...and then everything goes batshit bonkers.
An ally you had from the start who seemed to know a bit too much KILLS the hero, releasing the God of the living titan that was sealed inside him, since he's a secret disciple of that god. See, the hero was basically a kid who had the God sealed into him as a child when his family of archeologists discovered the sword with the power to rewrite reality. The "god" that was killed earlier was only his original physical body, while his mind was sealed into the hero's body. So now the living-God comes out, announces he will now purge all life, machine and living, and restart his world to his liking. He and the machine goddess fight, she sacrifices herself to delay him, but he still blows up the entire machine titan, and reverting all the elf people on the living titan into their natural form of creepy, mindless psionic dragons (except the handful that had enough human DNA to overrride that, including your elf party member), and finally runs off with both YOUR reality bending God Sword, and the Machine Goddesses' God Sword, which basically allows him to do ANYTHING HE WANTS.
Then, the main character eventually wakes back up, the machine people give him a replica reality bending sword that functions a lot like the old one. You then kill off each of his disciples, enter his little dimension, which looks like our solar system, with the same planets and names for them, you fight him, the hero suddenly through force of his own will, gains his OWN God Sword, earning the right to be a God, and kills the Living God.
Then, you find out that the whole plot started with Earth as we know it, with a pair of scientists and an AI, who were worried that space travel would be bad for humanity, and one of the scientists basically forcibly rebooted the entire universe with an experiment. Then, he and the scientist that was trying to stop him become the living god and machine god, respectively, and the AI becomes a neutral god that was just observing everything, and was in fact a secondary character who was following you around knowing too much the entire time and being a bit suspicious. The living god then got a god complex and decided to keep wiping out all life to prevent space travel from happening. 0_o.
Hero then chooses to give up his God Sword and let the world expand. BAM, suddenly, the world is a lot larger, with continents and stuff, and the girlfriend is now human again, and the AI guy tells him to be ready to meet new species and stuff.
0_o I was staring at the screen weirded out for a while. I mean, a lot of that came out of nowhere.
Still a fantastic game, though. If they hadn't dragged out the ending with overly strong monsters, not enough properly levelled side quests to level up if you were too weak, and too many arbitrary roadblocks in the last 2 dungeons, then it would have been my favourite RPG of all time.
Ok, after a great plot leading up about a war against machines, finding out that the whole war is actually due to a cycle of revenge and fear STARTED BY THE GOD OF YOUR OWN SIDE who tried to murder the entire machine race (he was the one who started the titan war in the intro), who was then sealed away, until you released him but he then died...Oh, and the sorta-girlfriend from the beginning is alive and is now a cyborg with the soul of the machine goddess in her.
It comes to a climax where you confront the leader of the machine guys, he hijacks the gigantic titan the machine people are living on to try to murder everyone living on your titan, and the hero has the perfect opportunity to finish him off for good.....and he doesn't. He instead chooses to extend the hand of friendship and end the cycle of revenge, even though that's what set him off on his journey to begin with, and it looks like this is going to be the end of our epic conclusion...
...and then everything goes batshit bonkers.
An ally you had from the start who seemed to know a bit too much KILLS the hero, releasing the God of the living titan that was sealed inside him, since he's a secret disciple of that god. See, the hero was basically a kid who had the God sealed into him as a child when his family of archeologists discovered the sword with the power to rewrite reality. The "god" that was killed earlier was only his original physical body, while his mind was sealed into the hero's body. So now the living-God comes out, announces he will now purge all life, machine and living, and restart his world to his liking. He and the machine goddess fight, she sacrifices herself to delay him, but he still blows up the entire machine titan, and reverting all the elf people on the living titan into their natural form of creepy, mindless psionic dragons (except the handful that had enough human DNA to overrride that, including your elf party member), and finally runs off with both YOUR reality bending God Sword, and the Machine Goddesses' God Sword, which basically allows him to do ANYTHING HE WANTS.
Then, the main character eventually wakes back up, the machine people give him a replica reality bending sword that functions a lot like the old one. You then kill off each of his disciples, enter his little dimension, which looks like our solar system, with the same planets and names for them, you fight him, the hero suddenly through force of his own will, gains his OWN God Sword, earning the right to be a God, and kills the Living God.
Then, you find out that the whole plot started with Earth as we know it, with a pair of scientists and an AI, who were worried that space travel would be bad for humanity, and one of the scientists basically forcibly rebooted the entire universe with an experiment. Then, he and the scientist that was trying to stop him become the living god and machine god, respectively, and the AI becomes a neutral god that was just observing everything, and was in fact a secondary character who was following you around knowing too much the entire time and being a bit suspicious. The living god then got a god complex and decided to keep wiping out all life to prevent space travel from happening. 0_o.
Hero then chooses to give up his God Sword and let the world expand. BAM, suddenly, the world is a lot larger, with continents and stuff, and the girlfriend is now human again, and the AI guy tells him to be ready to meet new species and stuff.
0_o I was staring at the screen weirded out for a while. I mean, a lot of that came out of nowhere.
Still a fantastic game, though. If they hadn't dragged out the ending with overly strong monsters, not enough properly levelled side quests to level up if you were too weak, and too many arbitrary roadblocks in the last 2 dungeons, then it would have been my favourite RPG of all time.
And there's also System Shock 2, which I JUST finished because Extra Credits was telling my I HAD TO PLAY IT.
Yay, I killed all the xenomorphs! now wha-
REALLY, Shodan? You're using the warp drive of the ship to bend reality and turn it into cyberspace so you can rule the entire universe as you please?!
Oh come on! Y U BETRAY ME?! I did nothing but help you! ;_;
REALLY, Shodan? You're using the warp drive of the ship to bend reality and turn it into cyberspace so you can rule the entire universe as you please?!
Oh come on! Y U BETRAY ME?! I did nothing but help you! ;_;
The Assassins creed modern day storyline.
It was a kind of good premise in the first two games. Brotherhood on however, it goes NOWHERE. Like in Black Flag virtually nothing happens in this regard. It seems like something actually big happens in AC3 BUT IT'S MEANINGLESS in the next game. Desmond was as interesting as dry toast, and sassy English guy was the only character I liked. If they do another one just please end the modern story instead of dragging it out further because it's so stale, and lost all legitimacy when they went down the Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull road.
It was a kind of good premise in the first two games. Brotherhood on however, it goes NOWHERE. Like in Black Flag virtually nothing happens in this regard. It seems like something actually big happens in AC3 BUT IT'S MEANINGLESS in the next game. Desmond was as interesting as dry toast, and sassy English guy was the only character I liked. If they do another one just please end the modern story instead of dragging it out further because it's so stale, and lost all legitimacy when they went down the Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull road.
Rule of Rose.
...uggghhh... my head hurts so freakin' much.
Ok, so, pretty standard horror stuff; a university student on her way home on a bus meets a young child who gives her a storybook, and she follows him after he runs off. She finds herself wandering around an orphanage, full of creepy young children, dogs howling, and various other ones. ...Then she gets BURIED with her dog and best friend who she's never met and ends up in an airship and there's these creepy imp children, right, and a society run by kids, right, ok, you're following me, and then, like, she's got to give the society an offering every month or she'll get molested with a rat on the end of a stick or something. And there's this creepy fat girl and a ton of lesbians.
Um, oh, yeah, and someone hits the maid so hard in the crotch with a crocket stick that she dies, and the owner f the airship turns into a BDSM fetishist and tries to murder you with a riding crop and... but, like, why doesn't she just beat the little fuckers up with that knife she's been carrying through the entire game? Why wouldn't she? Just.. beat 'em up a little. Then take their food... goddamnit, Jennifer, why can't you do this one thing?
Um, oh, yeah, and someone hits the maid so hard in the crotch with a crocket stick that she dies, and the owner f the airship turns into a BDSM fetishist and tries to murder you with a riding crop and... but, like, why doesn't she just beat the little fuckers up with that knife she's been carrying through the entire game? Why wouldn't she? Just.. beat 'em up a little. Then take their food... goddamnit, Jennifer, why can't you do this one thing?
...uggghhh... my head hurts so freakin' much.
Final Fantasy series is the epitome of "if you can't convince them, confuse them". I really can't see why it's so popular, they got pretty bad stories both on the dialog side and a setting that people can't relate to.
Maybe I'm just getting old and prefer something more realistic and less fantastical.
Maybe I'm just getting old and prefer something more realistic and less fantastical.
I feel like any and all JRPG's fall into this sort of thing. It just such a leap for me to get invested in anything that is happening. These are kids walking around in ridiculous outfits with shoes as big as their heads. Then they start going into tirades of watered down existentialism like they're Kierkegaard. It's just too much.Johnny Novgorod said:
...I'm kind of glad I never got around to finishing that game.aegix drakan said:
OT: Didn't that one True Crime game start getting dragons to come around and fuck you up along with ghosts or something? That was weird.
Also Nier. It's been a while so forgive me but I think I remember most of it.
Game starts in the modern day, you play a father taking care of his daughter Yonah in a ruined world as she's covered by these weird evil words that appear to be killing her. Evil shade monsters attack, daddy accepts the offer of power from a book named Grimoire Noir to gain power and protect his daughter, then we fast forward about 1000 years.
Now in a more standard fantasy world after everything has been rebuilt we find ourselves playing as the same dad taking care of the same daughter with the same disease, the world being filled with the same evil shade monsters. Things are fairly standard with you doing some odd jobs, fighting some monsters. You find out about a way to cure your daughter so you go out to find it.
During which you find yourself allied with another talking book called Grimoire Weiss and an incredibly scantily clad lady (but not really) with a shade for an arm giving her weird powers named Kaine.
Then the halfway point comes.
Your home village gets attacked by a super evil shade dude who looks suspiciously like yourself, you fight him off as best you can but bad things happen, you get stabbed, Kaine is petrified by your friend Emil (Who is a young-ish child who turns people to stone if you looks at them with his naked eyes) onto a wall to lock a monster inside the town library and your daughter is kidnapped by the evil shade dude.
Fast forward five years.
Your village is under basically constant attack nowadays, so you end up getting a fuck-off huge sword and spear to fight them better. Otherwise, the five years have been spent with Emil researching how to un-petrify Kaine now that you're strong enough to beat the beastie in the library. Some of the information he needs however is locked down in the ruins of an old civilization under his mansion.
Turns out the ruins are basically a high-tech research facility from our time. It's filled with shade monsters and while inside Emil starts having horrible visions and flashbacks to something. You find a lot of notes and books in the facility talking about some kind of disease and ways to stop it. At the end of the facility is is Emil's sister (who is a giant skeleton monster who was created artificially (as was Emil, we find out).) She eats Emil, you beat her in a boss fight, Emil is free and his power able to be controlled but he's also now a skeleton monster.
So you go and free Kaine and quest around for a bit doing... something, I forget. Long story short you find out where to go to save your daughter with the help of your lifelong friends the twins Popola and Devola. They also didn't age during the five years by the way, and your main character makes note of this.
So you go to find her, and if things we weird before, they're craaaaaaaaazy now.
Turns out Popola and Devola weren't so nice after all, and they're working for the evil Shade dude called "The Shadowlord." Plot dump:
A thousand years ago in our time a horrible disease was going around which is what our daughter is infected with. If someone had the infection they felt immense pain and their bodies start to twist and contort into the shade monsters who are still conscious, but are looking to find a replacement body. These beings are called "The Gestalts." The scientists who made Emil and his sister a thousand years ago were researching on how to transfer the soul of an infected person into a non-infected, artificial body (called "The Replicants"), but died before they could and the research was only partially finished. The Shadowlord had been continuing the research over the years (I think) and so kidnapped our daughter to cure her and then transfer his daughter soul into our daughter's body.
So when it comes to it we play as the Replicant of The Shadowlord's Gestal body. Our daughter is the Replicant of his daughter's Gestalt. Popola and Devola are... Replicants I think, and they were giving us hints on where to go and what to do so that we could get to the Shadowlord's castle having unlocked the information in the facility that we did. Or something.
After the exposition dump they attack you, Emil is killed (but not really) helping the rest of the party escape, Kaine slaps you for being all mopey about his death but supposedly that's also when she realises she's in love with somebody for the first time in her life.
Anyway, you continue on, Weiss in injured and the normally well spoken hoity toity book starts having trouble come out with even the most basic or words and seems to be slowly dying. You come up against a near invincible enemy and some allies you made earlier have to come in and sacrifice themselves to distract it while you escape to get to The Shadowlord. That might have been out of order, I forget.
So you get to The Shadowlord, Weiss loses the last of his power as his physical body vanishes you've basically lost all your magic. Gestalt Yonah's soul has already been placed in the now cured Replicant Yonah's body, but after sharing the body with the Replicant soul realises that R-Yonah's love for her father is so strong she allows her body to be taken back and her soul fades into nothingness.
Shadowlord gets right pissed off, attacks you, Kaine is otherwise predisposed or just doesn't help but you fight him, kill him and save Yonah. But now it gets doubly weird.
See, the game has four endings. One for finishing it once, one for NG+, one for NG++ standard and one for NG++ with 100% of the weapons.
Ending A has you kill The Shadowlord, and go over to Kaine and Yonah, but you find that Yonah isn't responding. Fearing the worse, your character nearly breaks down but the disembodied voice of Weiss tells you that she's fine and simply needs to be reminded of the name of the one she loves the most (the name you entered at the start of the game). Kaine goes off with "her own shit to do" and you and Yonah go off to relax at the village. Shadowlord and G-Yonah have a metaphysical moment and reunite.
Ending B is very much the same but has The Shadowlord all alone in his metaphysical moment, weeping to himself and remembering both his daughter and all the horrible things he did to try and save her. We flash to a scene of Emil's skeletal head in the desert, who rolls along going to find you and Kaine, hoping you haven't done anything that would get you in trouble.
Ending C is quite different. You kill the Shadowlord, but before you can handle Yonah, Kaine goes into a "relapse" phase, which happens when a Replicant body gets too self aware and was made imperfect initially. A relapse has the Replicant go unconcius, then when it wakes up it is beserk and attacks other Replicants.
As it turns out the shade in Kaine's arm (known as Tyrann) can speak and does so, telling you that he can save her life, but to do so he'll need a sacrifice in return. Whoever is sacrificed won't just die, all memory of them will be removed from eternity. Somehow. If you deny him you kill Kaine, then go through the regular process of going back to the village with Yonah.
Ending D is essentially the same but you choose to save Kaine instead. Your existence is removed, Yonah wakes up and thanks Kaine for saving her, Kaine is incredibly confused about why she is here but they both remember some sort of person who effected them in some kind of way, but you are a forgotten being.
This also happens literally as when you go back to load your data for whatever reason EVERY SAVE FILE YOU MADE IS COMPLETELY DELETED. YOU HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM EXISTENCE.
So yeah Nier basically tells you to go suck a dick.
There's also apparently an Ending E found in the "Grimoire Nier", a book released to fill in some plot gaps. According to the wiki it takes place after Ending D where some kind of program initiates and it's going to restart the Replicant system, presumably turning all the current Replicants into shades or something I dunno. Kaine goes and destroys is and finds a young boy who is actually the forgotten protagonist reconstructed through memory. Or something.
Also NG+ playthrough lets you hear the voices of the various Shades enemies and boss fights. As it turns out they're all fully conscious and you take the role of a murderous angel of death, running into wherever they like and killing all of them in an incredibly brutal fashion. For example, one of the bosses is a young child whose mother you killed. He finds a robot and they make a wonderful friendship-esque connection, but you come in and throw the first punch so they fight back. Doesn't end well for them.
Now in a more standard fantasy world after everything has been rebuilt we find ourselves playing as the same dad taking care of the same daughter with the same disease, the world being filled with the same evil shade monsters. Things are fairly standard with you doing some odd jobs, fighting some monsters. You find out about a way to cure your daughter so you go out to find it.
During which you find yourself allied with another talking book called Grimoire Weiss and an incredibly scantily clad lady (but not really) with a shade for an arm giving her weird powers named Kaine.
Then the halfway point comes.
Your home village gets attacked by a super evil shade dude who looks suspiciously like yourself, you fight him off as best you can but bad things happen, you get stabbed, Kaine is petrified by your friend Emil (Who is a young-ish child who turns people to stone if you looks at them with his naked eyes) onto a wall to lock a monster inside the town library and your daughter is kidnapped by the evil shade dude.
Fast forward five years.
Your village is under basically constant attack nowadays, so you end up getting a fuck-off huge sword and spear to fight them better. Otherwise, the five years have been spent with Emil researching how to un-petrify Kaine now that you're strong enough to beat the beastie in the library. Some of the information he needs however is locked down in the ruins of an old civilization under his mansion.
Turns out the ruins are basically a high-tech research facility from our time. It's filled with shade monsters and while inside Emil starts having horrible visions and flashbacks to something. You find a lot of notes and books in the facility talking about some kind of disease and ways to stop it. At the end of the facility is is Emil's sister (who is a giant skeleton monster who was created artificially (as was Emil, we find out).) She eats Emil, you beat her in a boss fight, Emil is free and his power able to be controlled but he's also now a skeleton monster.
So you go and free Kaine and quest around for a bit doing... something, I forget. Long story short you find out where to go to save your daughter with the help of your lifelong friends the twins Popola and Devola. They also didn't age during the five years by the way, and your main character makes note of this.
So you go to find her, and if things we weird before, they're craaaaaaaaazy now.
Turns out Popola and Devola weren't so nice after all, and they're working for the evil Shade dude called "The Shadowlord." Plot dump:
A thousand years ago in our time a horrible disease was going around which is what our daughter is infected with. If someone had the infection they felt immense pain and their bodies start to twist and contort into the shade monsters who are still conscious, but are looking to find a replacement body. These beings are called "The Gestalts." The scientists who made Emil and his sister a thousand years ago were researching on how to transfer the soul of an infected person into a non-infected, artificial body (called "The Replicants"), but died before they could and the research was only partially finished. The Shadowlord had been continuing the research over the years (I think) and so kidnapped our daughter to cure her and then transfer his daughter soul into our daughter's body.
So when it comes to it we play as the Replicant of The Shadowlord's Gestal body. Our daughter is the Replicant of his daughter's Gestalt. Popola and Devola are... Replicants I think, and they were giving us hints on where to go and what to do so that we could get to the Shadowlord's castle having unlocked the information in the facility that we did. Or something.
After the exposition dump they attack you, Emil is killed (but not really) helping the rest of the party escape, Kaine slaps you for being all mopey about his death but supposedly that's also when she realises she's in love with somebody for the first time in her life.
Anyway, you continue on, Weiss in injured and the normally well spoken hoity toity book starts having trouble come out with even the most basic or words and seems to be slowly dying. You come up against a near invincible enemy and some allies you made earlier have to come in and sacrifice themselves to distract it while you escape to get to The Shadowlord. That might have been out of order, I forget.
So you get to The Shadowlord, Weiss loses the last of his power as his physical body vanishes you've basically lost all your magic. Gestalt Yonah's soul has already been placed in the now cured Replicant Yonah's body, but after sharing the body with the Replicant soul realises that R-Yonah's love for her father is so strong she allows her body to be taken back and her soul fades into nothingness.
Shadowlord gets right pissed off, attacks you, Kaine is otherwise predisposed or just doesn't help but you fight him, kill him and save Yonah. But now it gets doubly weird.
See, the game has four endings. One for finishing it once, one for NG+, one for NG++ standard and one for NG++ with 100% of the weapons.
Ending A has you kill The Shadowlord, and go over to Kaine and Yonah, but you find that Yonah isn't responding. Fearing the worse, your character nearly breaks down but the disembodied voice of Weiss tells you that she's fine and simply needs to be reminded of the name of the one she loves the most (the name you entered at the start of the game). Kaine goes off with "her own shit to do" and you and Yonah go off to relax at the village. Shadowlord and G-Yonah have a metaphysical moment and reunite.
Ending B is very much the same but has The Shadowlord all alone in his metaphysical moment, weeping to himself and remembering both his daughter and all the horrible things he did to try and save her. We flash to a scene of Emil's skeletal head in the desert, who rolls along going to find you and Kaine, hoping you haven't done anything that would get you in trouble.
Ending C is quite different. You kill the Shadowlord, but before you can handle Yonah, Kaine goes into a "relapse" phase, which happens when a Replicant body gets too self aware and was made imperfect initially. A relapse has the Replicant go unconcius, then when it wakes up it is beserk and attacks other Replicants.
As it turns out the shade in Kaine's arm (known as Tyrann) can speak and does so, telling you that he can save her life, but to do so he'll need a sacrifice in return. Whoever is sacrificed won't just die, all memory of them will be removed from eternity. Somehow. If you deny him you kill Kaine, then go through the regular process of going back to the village with Yonah.
Ending D is essentially the same but you choose to save Kaine instead. Your existence is removed, Yonah wakes up and thanks Kaine for saving her, Kaine is incredibly confused about why she is here but they both remember some sort of person who effected them in some kind of way, but you are a forgotten being.
This also happens literally as when you go back to load your data for whatever reason EVERY SAVE FILE YOU MADE IS COMPLETELY DELETED. YOU HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM EXISTENCE.
So yeah Nier basically tells you to go suck a dick.
There's also apparently an Ending E found in the "Grimoire Nier", a book released to fill in some plot gaps. According to the wiki it takes place after Ending D where some kind of program initiates and it's going to restart the Replicant system, presumably turning all the current Replicants into shades or something I dunno. Kaine goes and destroys is and finds a young boy who is actually the forgotten protagonist reconstructed through memory. Or something.
Also NG+ playthrough lets you hear the voices of the various Shades enemies and boss fights. As it turns out they're all fully conscious and you take the role of a murderous angel of death, running into wherever they like and killing all of them in an incredibly brutal fashion. For example, one of the bosses is a young child whose mother you killed. He finds a robot and they make a wonderful friendship-esque connection, but you come in and throw the first punch so they fight back. Doesn't end well for them.
So yeah. Weird fucking game. Really good though.