You are 100% correct that conservatives get up to the same nonsense. When conservatives are allowed to run amok through the media unchecked we get the same nonsense from a different direction, trust me despite what a lot of people might think from some of my social attitudes I'm hardly "hard" right and a lot of conservatives consider me a bloody hippy. I've spent a lot of time and effort say defending PnP RPGs with the same tenacity you see me going after liberals, that was just yesterday's issue.Cryselle said:I'm not entirely certain why you're exclusively demonizing liberals on this one, considering that shaming a game for being too sexy is VERY popular on the conservative side as well (recall the Sex-Box kerfuffle when Mass Effect first came out?). This is less of a partisan issue than it is a question of people seeing what they want to see and willfully ignoring the rest, which is a tactic heavily employed by pretty much everyone with an extreme view on anything.Therumancer said:As much as I demonize liberals, this is another case where you see the problem, what was always a very solid fighting franchise has been attacked relentlessly over the sex appeal and costumes involved, which has detracted from the game, causing a lot of people to underestimate it.
I call out the liberals here because they are the ones who are responsible for the censorship problems right now, the style is simply different. Conservatives would pull something equivalent to the "Sex Box" argument and try and get the game banned, or at least slandered high and low through as much mainstream media as possible. Liberals instead go about their stuff by claiming the material victimizes women and you see things like here with the costumes being targeted, DoA Beach Volleyball being brought up as a dangerous exercise in fetishization of the ideal female form, which is insensitive to women, and so on. Conservatives attack directly, liberals do it directly oftentimes under the guise of compromise or to act like they are protecting someone or something and trying to bring special interests to bear. The whole "well, we'll target the costumes" thing is pretty much a liberal MO and a way of applying pressure with the ultimate intent of forcing the game to change to fit it's agenda or crumble under pressure. Neither side is more or less dangerous or wrong, it's all about who is swinging the axe at any given moment, and both sides need to be targeted. Trust me if we had extreme conservatives ranting about it being a devil game out to turn all our children into perverts or something I'd be after them to, and it wouldn't be the first time I've called our Republicans for being a bunch of idiots. Basically The Republicans have things like the 700 club (not sure if it's even still around), The Democrats tend to be expressed as more through the grassroots and figureheads like Anita Sarkeesian so it can be claimed there is no organization and this all genuinely comes from what the people think and want. Both ways of doing things have their pros and cons but it's always about controlling information, and both using their preferred tactics to convince you it's in your best interests, or in the name of protecting someone or something whether it's as nebulous as the fabric of American society, religion, or various "victim" groups. At the end of the day whether you let them get away with it because your afraid the devil is going to come for your baby through whatever it is, or because your say protecting women and serving their rights, it's all about giving up control and letting someone dictate what can be said, and heard.
I'll probably be too old for it to matter, if I even live that long, and who knows what forums will be out there, but when the pendelum swings back the other way, which I expect it will, you'll probably see me going after plenty of Republicans. The party is waning right now (and no, it will not ever be truly defeated and disappear) but the winds of political fortune always change, even if people don't tell them that. Almost guaranteed you'll eventually see the conservatives pulling the same crap from a position of strength again in your life time, their techniques will simply be different but all going to the same place.