stupidity? hell no. everyone should be cheering him on. someone finally doing something good so gamestop will stop ripping people off. buy a new game, play it, finish it, return it for store credit and get only $30 for a game played only 2 days so they can sell it for $5 less of a new one? that's bull and hopefully he wins since there are alot of people who arent as informed as normal gamers and may fall prey to this. some parent somewhere may buy their kid a used version and then find out hey they need to spend another $30 for the DLC which of course said parent has no idea what DLC is and gets ripped off when the parent now spends about $80 instead $60. there was a post about how EA's DLC program should lower the value of used games because a new game has the game and $30(2 DLC) making the game valued at $30 for the price of $60 while the used verison only has the game so it should be only 30 vs 55 and no DLCsquid5580 said:It wasn't unforseen. That is why they put in the *. Shouldn't the lawsuit be directed at EA though? It wasn't GS who packaged it. The end result would be the same sure but he might have a chance at some free swag. If EA wasn't bitter about him buying used.
It is stupidity like this that gives "gamers" a bad name.
how about a parent who doesnt know any better? not saying this guy is one but neverless generally its the people who are less informed that get sucked into this kinda of bullshit.slowpoke999 said:God Damn how can people be so retarded to not read the god damn games they buy but go to the trouble of taking on a massive retailer-chain?Andy Chalk said:I checked out my own copy of Dragon Age: Origins and it does specify, on the back, that it includes Shale, The Stone Prisoner [http://dragonage.bioware.com/addon/] and Blood Dragon Armor as DLC, but each is marked with an asterisk; reading further, the asterisk is revealed to mean, "One time use code available with full retail purchase. Expires April 30, 2010." It seems clear enough, but then again, who's got time to read and comprehend when there's five bucks on the line?
Edit:Can Gamestop even be sued for what they did?I mean sure it's deceitful as hell, but who the heck buys a used game for $5 less then a new one?
I would like to refer you to my previous post, which explains both of your concerns. To sumarize:Master_Fubar23 said:how about a parent who doesnt know any better? not saying this guy is one but neverless generally its the people who are less informed that get sucked into this kinda of bullshit.slowpoke999 said:God Damn how can people be so retarded to not read the god damn games they buy but go to the trouble of taking on a massive retailer-chain?Andy Chalk said:I checked out my own copy of Dragon Age: Origins and it does specify, on the back, that it includes Shale, The Stone Prisoner [http://dragonage.bioware.com/addon/] and Blood Dragon Armor as DLC, but each is marked with an asterisk; reading further, the asterisk is revealed to mean, "One time use code available with full retail purchase. Expires April 30, 2010." It seems clear enough, but then again, who's got time to read and comprehend when there's five bucks on the line?
Edit:Can Gamestop even be sued for what they did?I mean sure it's deceitful as hell, but who the heck buys a used game for $5 less then a new one?
The rule of caveat emptor applies to private sales only, I'm afraid. That's why he's making this case.A) All the information was on the box, including the fact that the DLC was only available with a "Full Retail Purchase". He should have read the box. Caveat Emptor
Because I paid for it, that's why. Turn it around; if I buy a game new and then sell it when I don't want it anymore, that's not piracy, that's me doing what I wish with my property. Piracy entails me taking the game and distributing it for free.Mad Stalin said:not trying to justify anything im trying to comprehend how its not the same thingIwata said:This. This, a thousand times. I wonder if people realize how retarded they sound when they try to justify pirating games with stupid-ass arguments such as these.As for the Gamestop=Piracy argument, just no
Why stop with GS? Why not just institute a law that regulates the price of everything. No more Ebay auctions skyrocketing. No more priceless antiques. No more of this people buying and selling stuff at prices they feel comfortable with. Afterall we can't be trusted to make our own buying and selling decisions.Master_Fubar23 said:stupidity? hell no. everyone should be cheering him on. someone finally doing something good so gamestop will stop ripping people off. buy a new game, play it, finish it, return it for store credit and get only $30 for a game played only 2 days so they can sell it for $5 less of a new one? that's bull and hopefully he wins since there are alot of people who arent as informed as normal gamers and may fall prey to this. some parent somewhere may buy their kid a used version and then find out hey they need to spend another $30 for the DLC which of course said parent has no idea what DLC is and gets ripped off when the parent now spends about $80 instead $60. there was a post about how EA's DLC program should lower the value of used games because a new game has the game and $30(2 DLC) making the game valued at $30 for the price of $60 while the used verison only has the game so it should be only 30 vs 55 and no DLCsquid5580 said:It wasn't unforseen. That is why they put in the *. Shouldn't the lawsuit be directed at EA though? It wasn't GS who packaged it. The end result would be the same sure but he might have a chance at some free swag. If EA wasn't bitter about him buying used.
It is stupidity like this that gives "gamers" a bad name.
1)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptorBosola said:The rule of caveat emptor applies to private sales only, I'm afraid. That's why he's making this case.A) All the information was on the box, including the fact that the DLC was only available with a "Full Retail Purchase". He should have read the box. Caveat Emptor
How about people who don't get to handle the game before buying has is becoming more and more common at game stores? For the rest: Damned retards not grabbing the game to read the boxes fine print, cause they actually decided which game they wanted long before they came down to the store and just asked for a copy at the counter. Note that usually this is the time when the employee behind the counter checks their computer then says "We have a copy of that used, and you can save XX dollars."slowpoke999 said:God Damn how can people be so retarded to not read the god damn games they buy but go to the trouble of taking on a massive retailer-chain?Andy Chalk said:I checked out my own copy of Dragon Age: Origins and it does specify, on the back, that it includes Shale, The Stone Prisoner [http://dragonage.bioware.com/addon/] and Blood Dragon Armor as DLC, but each is marked with an asterisk; reading further, the asterisk is revealed to mean, "One time use code available with full retail purchase. Expires April 30, 2010." It seems clear enough, but then again, who's got time to read and comprehend when there's five bucks on the line?
Edit:Can Gamestop even be sued for what they did?I mean sure it's deceitful as hell, but who the heck buys a used game for $5 less then a new one?
Every store I've ever been in have allowed you to look over the product before purchasing. In most cases like Walmart where the game is locked up, you just find a sales person and say "Hey, can I see that game?" and they will open it up and let you check it out. Yes, they usually stand there and watch you till you decide, but that's their company policy. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I would refuse to buy a game from a retailer that didn't allow me to examine at least the outer packaging of a product before buying.manaman said:How about people who don't get to handle the game before buying has is becoming more and more common at game stores? For the rest: Damned retards not grabbing the game to read the boxes fine print, cause they actually decided which game they wanted long before they came down to the store and just asked for a copy at the counter. Note that usually this is the time when the employee behind the counter checks their computer then says "We have a copy of that used, and you can save XX dollars."slowpoke999 said:God Damn how can people be so retarded to not read the god damn games they buy but go to the trouble of taking on a massive retailer-chain?Andy Chalk said:I checked out my own copy of Dragon Age: Origins and it does specify, on the back, that it includes Shale, The Stone Prisoner [http://dragonage.bioware.com/addon/] and Blood Dragon Armor as DLC, but each is marked with an asterisk; reading further, the asterisk is revealed to mean, "One time use code available with full retail purchase. Expires April 30, 2010." It seems clear enough, but then again, who's got time to read and comprehend when there's five bucks on the line?
Edit:Can Gamestop even be sued for what they did?I mean sure it's deceitful as hell, but who the heck buys a used game for $5 less then a new one?
For the used game prices, Gamestop tends to price newer used games at 10% or so less then the price of a new game. If people pay it they are going to charge it.
dragontiers said:Every store I've ever been in have allowed you to look over the product before purchasing. In most cases like Walmart where the game is locked up, you just find a sales person and say "Hey, can I see that game?" and they will open it up and let you check it out. Yes, they usually stand there and watch you till you decide, but that's their company policy. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I would refuse to buy a game from a retailer that didn't allow me to examine at least the outer packaging of a product before buying.manaman said:How about people who don't get to handle the game before buying has is becoming more and more common at game stores? For the rest: Damned retards not grabbing the game to read the boxes fine print, cause they actually decided which game they wanted long before they came down to the store and just asked for a copy at the counter. Note that usually this is the time when the employee behind the counter checks their computer then says "We have a copy of that used, and you can save XX dollars."
For the used game prices, Gamestop tends to price newer used games at 10% or so less then the price of a new game. If people pay it they are going to charge it.
Like I said in my last post, I DID read the link and still stand by my verdict. She was an idiot. Next time why don't you read the post before insulting the author of it, then YOU won't look like an idiot.CD-R said:Next time read the links and you won't look like an idiot.