Gaming Faces Its "Single Most Important Challenge" at the Supreme Court

[LGCzero]

It's noones responsibility but the parents.

I agree with your point.

 

[Proteus214]

Signed.

I seriously hope that some of these people start to at least inform themselves before they start making laws to heavily censor a creative medium.

 

[LGCzero]

I wholeheartedly agree that it is the parents responsibility not the retailers or developers.

 

[AlchemicalGod]

Ok, I know that Yahtzee, Pen And Teller, and hundreds of others had talked of this but...

1- You know that kids are going to want it MORE if you ban it, its like telling yourself you won't look at the clock, your just gonna want to do it more.

2- Its Arnold Schwarzenegger that is in on this! He got to where he is now, mostly, with his carrer as an actor! And for anyone who HASN'T seen his films, they are almost all blood fests!

3- Pen And Teller Said this already, I know, but still, We as a society are AGAINST a bunch of digital images being hurt and killed, but we're fine with violent games like Rugby, Football (american), where people die every year because of injuries! and schools, the goverments, and our comunities FUND Them!

4- And this is the Most Important one, who else BUT teenagers and 10 year olds would BUY those games? Ok I know that the number of adults who play games is growing, but thats almost soley BECAUSE we played them when we were teens!

5- Shouldn't PARENTS be blamed as well? I mean I know its hard, but you can't just blame the Gaming Industry, Besides, if you think that First person Shooters are "Mass-Murder Simulators, and Trainers" Then Shouldn't You Feel even more outraged at HUNTING? I mean, real guns, real creatures being shot at!

And I know that we're all gamers here, and that I'm "preaching to the choir", but still!

 

[Azhrarn-101]

I wonder how much money California (and Schwarzenegger) are getting from the movie and music industry to try and get First Amendment protection revoked for Video Games.

REALLY? You think that's what this is about?

Those industries COMPLIMENT each other. Game soundtracks, movie tie-in games, etc.

Only in a very minor way, what they gain from that is minimal.
Nothing important enough to not try and destroy a competing medium over.
Those two industries have everything to gain by forcing gaming in a corner and preferably banning it altogether.
They both probably can't wait to start claiming that gaming is detrimental to all sorts of things while promoting their own wares as "wholesome".

 

[Cherry Cola]

*signs petition*

*Goes to friends house and forces him to sign as well*

*Goes to next friends house and repeat the process*

etc. etc.

THIS MUST BE DEALT WITH!

 

[ToxinArrow]

Hooray! Possibly more government involvement where they have no right being!

 

[Mcupobob]

Shit I live in California..... Well I sign the pention I really hope that my small contribution makes a differance. I mean this should not even be able to make it to court, all froms of media are protected by the first amendment.

 

[Beltom]

Dammit, non-US people can't sign it. Well, good luck to you lot across the pond, I really hope you win this fight, since if you lose, places like the UK may follow suit.

 

[GonzoGamer]

It's good to see that California has taken care of all the important problems that threaten it's youth like hard drugs, drive byes, perverts, and fire season; yes this is the state that generally bursts into flames once a year.

 

[DazBurger]

Good luck our fellow gamers!



Im just happy that something like that wont happen where I live :/
No... It wont...

 

[Nevyrmoore]

Ah, I see, now this explains it a little more clearly than the other thread I posted in. I agree with the law itself, but I also think that games should be considered the same as films and music.

If you believe that games are entitled to the same protections as films and music, then you pretty clearly don't agree with the law. This is one of those "either/or" deals.

You misunderstand. I agree with the law to prevent Little Timmy of 5-years old from buying Blood Slaughter: Death Murder Rampage. I don't agree, however, in trying to bend that into preventing Blood Slaughter: Death Murder Rampage from being created.

 

[Krakyn]

Ah, I see, now this explains it a little more clearly than the other thread I posted in. I agree with the law itself, but I also think that games should be considered the same as films and music.

If you believe that games are entitled to the same protections as films and music, then you pretty clearly don't agree with the law. This is one of those "either/or" deals.

I disagree with this statement. He said he agrees with the law, but he feels that movies and music should be treated the same way. Thus, movies and music should be included in the law.

So no, it's not either/or. And I'm inclined to agree. If violent video games are bad, violent movies and music are just as bad. They should all be restricted from sale to minors, but available to adults who want them.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

I really hope this passes If it dosen't likely, similar legislation treating video games differently, would appear in the uk.

If they try to pass somthing like this in the UK there will be seroius business goin' down in London town.

Dammit, non-US people can't sign it. Well, good luck to you lot across the pond, I really hope you win this fight, since if you lose, places like the UK may follow suit.

Agree with this in a big way. Especially with our new (mostly) Conservative government, I think it's more than likely we're going to see this sort of thing anyway.

As to the petition itself, unfortunately I can't sign, but I think it would be offensive to every gamer if the USA declares videogames not to be on the same creative level of films and music, not to mention pretty stupid and narrow minded of them.

Then again, I've never exactly been convinced of the open-mindedness of the US court system.

 

[Andy Chalk]

You misunderstand. I agree with the law to prevent Little Timmy of 5-years old from buying Blood Slaughter: Death Murder Rampage. I don't agree, however, in trying to bend that into preventing Blood Slaughter: Death Murder Rampage from being created.

He said he agrees with the law, but he feels that movies and music should be treated the same way. Thus, movies and music should be included in the law.

So no, it's not either/or. And I'm inclined to agree. If violent video games are bad, violent movies and music are just as bad. They should all be restricted from sale to minors, but available to adults who want them.

We'll get two birds stoned at once here.

I don't misunderstand at all. The simple fact is this: If you agree with the law, then you agree that videogames aren't entitled to the same First Amendment protections as other forms of media. That means you don't think videogames should be treated the same as movies and music. You can't have it both ways.

Including movies and music in the law? Can't be done, because it's already been well-established that they are protected forms of speech under the First Amendment. If you want to start messing with the Constitution to give the government discretionary power over what you can play (and watch, and listen to, and read), that's a different matter entirely. And what a shame if you're willing to voluntarily go down that path.

 

[Danpascooch]

Cue courtroom drama music...


*signs*

QUICK! GET THE SPIRIT MEDIUMS!

Lol, I signed the petition, even if I know anything signed over the internet in the form of a petition does no good.

 

[TheDoctor455]

Signed it.
And posted on Facebook to encourage my friends to sign it as well.
Yes, I actually know them in real life.

 

[Krakyn]

You misunderstand. I agree with the law to prevent Little Timmy of 5-years old from buying Blood Slaughter: Death Murder Rampage. I don't agree, however, in trying to bend that into preventing Blood Slaughter: Death Murder Rampage from being created.

He said he agrees with the law, but he feels that movies and music should be treated the same way. Thus, movies and music should be included in the law.

So no, it's not either/or. And I'm inclined to agree. If violent video games are bad, violent movies and music are just as bad. They should all be restricted from sale to minors, but available to adults who want them.

We'll get two birds stoned at once here.

I don't misunderstand at all. The simple fact is this: If you agree with the law, then you agree that videogames aren't entitled to the same First Amendment protections as other forms of media. That means you don't think videogames should be treated the same as movies and music. You can't have it both ways.

Including movies and music in the law? Can't be done, because it's already been well-established that they are protected forms of speech under the First Amendment. If you want to start messing with the Constitution to give the government discretionary power over what you can play (and watch, and listen to, and read), that's a different matter entirely. And what a shame if you're willing to voluntarily go down that path.

We have laws to protect children from exposure to things like pornography. Nobody complains about the restrictions placed on that. Why is pornography not subject to first amendment rights? In the US, we may overstate sex, but we understate violence.

I am willing to have the government tell people under a certain age that they're not allowed to buy certain things. Cigarettes, alcohol, and pornography are all great examples of how you can restrict objects from sale to minors, yet still have them available to adults. You're kind of acting like Fox News a bit here...why don't you chill out an not insult me by telling me how it's a shame that I feel a certain way. Thanks.

 

[Fensfield]

What a shame I'm not American, and thus can't sign that..

I mean seriously there should be an 'out of US' bit so they can note the fact the rest of the world is concerned the US' general clout will influence us poor sods in the third-step game market if there's a negative result >.>