(not just to you)Ickorus said:Is the scene important to the narrative or just shoved in for impact?
If it is the former then they should not have removed it if it is the latter then who gives a damn.
If the blurb in the OP is to be believed, it would've aired 20 minutes after the 9pm watershed.Mark Flanagan said:Its because it's moved to an earlier time slot which is why the scene was cut not because of 'BBC conservative censorship'.
The other two series of Torchwood has lots of sex (gay or otherwise) in it and British TV has always been really liberal about stuff like this.
The first pre-watershed lesbian kiss was shown in 1994 (ah Brookside/Anna Friel) and Russel T Davies did Queer as Folk in the late 90's (10pm+).
So again, its not "ahhhh bums!" but "bums? at this time? This wont do!"
Dags90 said:If the blurb in the OP is to be believed, it would've aired 20 minutes after the 9pm watershed.Mark Flanagan said:Its because it's moved to an earlier time slot which is why the scene was cut not because of 'BBC conservative censorship'.
The other two series of Torchwood has lots of sex (gay or otherwise) in it and British TV has always been really liberal about stuff like this.
The first pre-watershed lesbian kiss was shown in 1994 (ah Brookside/Anna Friel) and Russel T Davies did Queer as Folk in the late 90's (10pm+).
So again, its not "ahhhh bums!" but "bums? at this time? This wont do!"
From Wikipedia said:According to Ofcom, the watershed on standard television in the UK starts at 9:00 p.m.,[7] and finishes at 5:30 a.m. the next morning. Programmes that are 15+ are shown during this period. However, some 12+ shows can be shown before 09:00 p.m., such as The Simpsons, Malcolm in the Middle and Doctor Who. On premium film or pay-per-view services requiring a subscription, the watershed starts at 8:00 p.m. However, 12, 15 and 18 rated films can be shown on PIN protected channels (such as Sky Movies) at any time of the day. Viewers are required to enter their PIN to view. There should be a gentle transition to adult material,[8] and 18-rated material is not allowed to be shown before 10:00 p.m.
What? If I'm not very, very much mistaken TV news channels in Britain aren't *allowed* to be biased (or at least blatantly biased, you can't really stop slight leaning in one direction) because we say that the TV is literally being streamed into your house, and you shouldn't have opinions you object to being taken straight to you (or something like that), whereas newspapers can be as biased as they want because people have to actually buy newspapers (e.g. many newspapers run campaigns about why you should vote for Labour or LibDem or whatever, TV news can't do that.)Michael Flick said:Who cares? We censor everything here other then premium channels like HBO, even our news channels are censored and biased to hell.
Aha! I knew it wasn't because the BBC had given into homophobes, excellent news. Oh BBC, as if you could do any wrongMark Flanagan said:Dags90 said:If the blurb in the OP is to be believed, it would've aired 20 minutes after the 9pm watershed.Mark Flanagan said:Its because it's moved to an earlier time slot which is why the scene was cut not because of 'BBC conservative censorship'.
The other two series of Torchwood has lots of sex (gay or otherwise) in it and British TV has always been really liberal about stuff like this.
The first pre-watershed lesbian kiss was shown in 1994 (ah Brookside/Anna Friel) and Russel T Davies did Queer as Folk in the late 90's (10pm+).
So again, its not "ahhhh bums!" but "bums? at this time? This wont do!"From Wikipedia said:According to Ofcom, the watershed on standard television in the UK starts at 9:00 p.m.,[7] and finishes at 5:30 a.m. the next morning. Programmes that are 15+ are shown during this period. However, some 12+ shows can be shown before 09:00 p.m., such as The Simpsons, Malcolm in the Middle and Doctor Who. On premium film or pay-per-view services requiring a subscription, the watershed starts at 8:00 p.m. However, 12, 15 and 18 rated films can be shown on PIN protected channels (such as Sky Movies) at any time of the day. Viewers are required to enter their PIN to view. There should be a gentle transition to adult material,[8] and 18-rated material is not allowed to be shown before 10:00 p.m.
Even though the original Torchwood was a 15 it was shown at 10pm (gay sex and all) so I think that because they've moved it to 9pm they've had to drop some of the sexual content.
Techinically after 9pm in Britain 15+ shows can be aired, only after 10pm can you have 18+Chirez said:I have checked, to be certain. The program airs at 9pm, which is the watershed time. It's post watershed, and therefore can't be argued on that basis.
The 'program for the majority' argument is awful. Do that and you end up with every show exactly the same, bland and boring.
Well done to the US network for showing the full thing, though I'm unfamiliar with the position of Starz in the overall scheme of US TV. For the BBC, such an action would be shameful, though without more and more detailed information I'm reluctant to make any bold denouncement.
There may have been a reason, I've heard nothing that sounds like a good one.
Ah, yes, my research was too cursory it seems. Thankyou for the correction. Also, never trust the Sun.orangeban said:Techinically after 9pm in Britain 15+ shows can be aired, only after 10pm can you have 18+
That's the reason for it apparently.