General Defecating on Ubisoft Thread

gigastar

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So as im sure most people are aware (most of us are subscribed to Jim Sterling after all) Ubisoft has made a number of controversial decisions this week.

So i decided to dig a little deeper into the newsfeed for once, and oh my theyre up to so much more than the price markup of Rainbow Six Siege and adding lootboxes to both R6S and Ghost Recon: Wildlands.

Lets list what i found;

First up may as well be the things we already know about.

>Ubisoft hikes the price of Rainbow Six Seige [http://www.pcgamer.com/rainbow-six-siege-price/]

Effective Feb 13th the Standard edition of R6S will be discontinued and replaced with an Advanced edition which is, in fact, the same as the to-be abolished Standard edition but comes with 600 Rainbow Six Credits (premium currency) and 10 Outbreak Collection Packs at a $20 markup and presumed equivalent hikes in other regions.

The Gold edition of the game will also receive the same $20 markup and the Complete edition will see a $40 markup in price, and it does not seem that anything will be added to these editions to make them worth that price hike.

It is worth noting that the PC exclusive Starter edition will remain untouched but keep in mind, earning the ingame currency required to unlock new operators requires significantly more time for purchasers of this edition.

>Ubisoft adds Lootboxes to Rainbox Six Siege. [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-12-rainbow-six-siege-deploys-update-which-adds-loot-boxes]
>Ubisoft adds Lootboxes to ghost Recon Wildlands. [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-01-24-ghost-recon-wildlands-is-getting-loot-crates]

Both of these are self explanatory. Apparently the threat [http://fortune.com/2017/12/09/lawmaker-working-to-ban-sale-of-games-with-lootboxes-to-minors/] of a US government intervention [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq] isnt going to dissuade the French publisher from extracting as much of the piss as it can before the crackdown inevitably arrives.

>New Rainbow Six Siege event features purchase-only timed-exclusive cosmetics. [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-01-26-rainbow-six-siege-players-unhappy-at-timed-event-with-paid-only-cosmetic-packs]

Nothing quite demonstrates what a developer thinks of its community quite like hosting an event and expecting players to keep forking over their cash for a chance to get the one cosmetic piece they desire.

Now to be fair, you would not receive duplicates from these time limited lootboxes, however for those unlucky enough to keep not getting the thing they want and those who absolutely must have everything, the estimated cost of buying the 46 lootboxes required (in addition to the 4 that will be sent out for free) to obtain all 50 cosmetics comes out at US$140. Or however much it would cost you to purchase 13800 Rainbow Six Siege Credits.

>Ubisoft unveils "personal gaming assistant" smartphone app [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-01-24-ubisoft-unveils-sam-a-personal-gaming-assistant]


Sam is a smartphone thing that will hock into whatever Ubisoft game youre playing (which presumably requires a uPlay account) and feed you tips and guides based on what you havent done in said game yet.

So its not bad enough that an Ubisoft open world game has what many would describe to be "too much" collectables, Ubisoft has sought to 'solve' the problem by designing a chatbot to search for guides to the collect-a-thon so you dont have to.

Oh and the thing will occasionally try to sell you other Ubisoft games. Because thats what everyone needs at this point.

And something something shit you can already do on Steam, Origin, Discord, Facebook, Myspace, The Escapist Forums and so forth.

As for me, i think im ready to call myself done with Ubisoft. Permanently.
 

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Yeah, the AAA industry is basically shit. They hate their own consumers, or at least don't care if they have fun and enjoy games, so long as they empty their bank account with microtransactions.
 

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Or just.... y'know..... Don't buy them. Sure, they'll just sell to the mass market and ignore you for a while but once that mass market/"wider audience" dies off, they will be desperate to win you back. Happens to even the biggest (see mobile/social media games or even the formerly unstoppable Wii audience).
 

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I find it remarkable how Ubisoft manages to invent new ways to squander the little consumer confidence it occasionally picks up.
 

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only decent stuff that shitty company has put out lately are Mario + Rabbids and the 2 South Park games. and Ubisoft technically didn't even make Stick of Truth in the first bloody place.
 

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FarCry 5 is getting some hardcore DRM on PC.

https://dotesports.com/the-op/news/far-cry-5-denuvo-drm-20465

Do they want me to play the Console version?! With no 60 FPS!?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
FarCry 5 is getting some hardcore DRM on PC.

https://dotesports.com/the-op/news/far-cry-5-denuvo-drm-20465

Do they want me to play the Console version?! With no 60 FPS!?
Well thats hardly a surprise now. I just wonder if its going to melt peoples CPUs like AC: Origins is.
 

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Can I say I am surprised at Rainbow Six Siege's popularity?

I thought the game was gonna be written off as just another "Modern Military Shooter" or "Spunkgargleweewee" (How mature of you Yatzhee)

And the game would not have the Hardcore Tactical Edge of Rainbow Six 3 and SWAT 4.

And its multiplayer only.

What is so special about Siege?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Can I say I am surprised at Rainbow Six Siege's popularity?

I thought the game was gonna be written off as just another "Modern Military Shooter" or "Spunkgargleweewee" (How mature of you Yatzhee)

And the game would not have the Hardcore Tactical Edge of Rainbow Six 3 and SWAT 4.

And its multiplayer only.

What is so special about Siege?
Apparently, its as easy to watch as CS:GO making it streamable and ripe for esport. Compared to Overwatch, Lol, StarCraft or DOTA, its a better experience. But I was just listening to someone talk about their experiences. Last time I played CS was 2000 and nothing else in this paragraph, including streaming so I can provide nothing
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
What is so special about Siege?
Basically, it is what happens if CS and DotA had a lovechild. Low skill floor and high skill ceiling helps, but the Operator picks and the way they affect the dynamic of any given round is probably the real draw. A defending team that picks mostly roamers to move around the building trying to surprise the attackers will be something entirely different to play with and against then a defending team that goes full defense and makes the objective a fortress with 5 dudes lurking every corner and bobby traps all around. Similarly, the attackers got plenty of ways to approach the objective and building and their team composition will greatly influence how they do it.

Also, it is really fun to blow up walls to create new passages, kill people by penetrating their cover and snipe people through improvised murder holes in the ceiling.

So really, Siege has a lot going for it in its' core gameplay loop.
 

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It is because of crap like this, that I've been boycotting Ubisoft since the Rayman Legends fiasco.
 

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I mean I'm an Assassin's Creed fanboy so I find it hard to truly hate Ubisoft, but it is hard to not look at a lot of their bullshit and just go, well, "oh Ubisoft!"

At this point, outside of my undying fanboyism of Assassin's Creed, the best I can say about Ubisoft as a company is that their Ubicollectibles merchandise is fucking amazing. That's basically it. My engagement with this company now is buying Assasssin's Creed games, and buying models of characters from Assassin's Creed games... and yes I'm very much aware that the actual model-making is obviously done by some other company and just sold through and licensed by Ubisoft but I'm trying to be even vaguely charitable here.
 

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Gethsemani said:
Samtemdo8 said:
What is so special about Siege?
Basically, it is what happens if CS and DotA had a lovechild. Low skill floor and high skill ceiling helps, but the Operator picks and the way they affect the dynamic of any given round is probably the real draw. A defending team that picks mostly roamers to move around the building trying to surprise the attackers will be something entirely different to play with and against then a defending team that goes full defense and makes the objective a fortress with 5 dudes lurking every corner and bobby traps all around. Similarly, the attackers got plenty of ways to approach the objective and building and their team composition will greatly influence how they do it.

Also, it is really fun to blow up walls to create new passages, kill people by penetrating their cover and snipe people through improvised murder holes in the ceiling.

So really, Siege has a lot going for it in its' core gameplay loop.
It's oh so satisfying to wipe almost the entire enemy team with a Fuze charge.
 

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gigastar said:
Samtemdo8 said:
FarCry 5 is getting some hardcore DRM on PC.

https://dotesports.com/the-op/news/far-cry-5-denuvo-drm-20465

Do they want me to play the Console version?! With no 60 FPS!?
Well thats hardly a surprise now. I just wonder if its going to melt peoples CPUs like AC: Origins is.
Can we all at least conceed this about Ubisoft: They have the better library of game franchises than EA, Activision, and Warner Bros?

Assassin's Creed, FarCry, Prince of Persia, Rayman, Rainbow Six, Splinter Cell.

Heck even their one off games were good stuff like Red Steel 2, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, and Brothers in Arms, and dare I say it, Watch Dogs.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
gigastar said:
Samtemdo8 said:
FarCry 5 is getting some hardcore DRM on PC.

https://dotesports.com/the-op/news/far-cry-5-denuvo-drm-20465

Do they want me to play the Console version?! With no 60 FPS!?
Well thats hardly a surprise now. I just wonder if its going to melt peoples CPUs like AC: Origins is.
Can we all at least conceed this about Ubisoft: They have the better library of game franchises than EA, Activision, and Warner Bros?

Assassin's Creed, FarCry, Prince of Persia, Rayman, Rainbow Six, Splinter Cell.

Heck even their one off games were good stuff like Red Steel 2, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, and Brothers in Arms, and dare I say it, Watch Dogs.
You have a weird definition of "one off", there's literally a 2 in your list. To say nothing of there being 2 Watch_Dogs, and a semi-ludicrous number of Might & Magics (granted, Dark Messiah's style didn't really repeat since Arkane went to Bethesda to make Dishonored (after brief stops for "Additional Work" on Call of Duty and Bioshock 2))
 

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Seth Carter said:
Samtemdo8 said:
gigastar said:
Samtemdo8 said:
FarCry 5 is getting some hardcore DRM on PC.

https://dotesports.com/the-op/news/far-cry-5-denuvo-drm-20465

Do they want me to play the Console version?! With no 60 FPS!?
Well thats hardly a surprise now. I just wonder if its going to melt peoples CPUs like AC: Origins is.
Can we all at least conceed this about Ubisoft: They have the better library of game franchises than EA, Activision, and Warner Bros?

Assassin's Creed, FarCry, Prince of Persia, Rayman, Rainbow Six, Splinter Cell.

Heck even their one off games were good stuff like Red Steel 2, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, and Brothers in Arms, and dare I say it, Watch Dogs.
You have a weird definition of "one off", there's literally a 2 in your list. To say nothing of there being 2 Watch_Dogs, and a semi-ludicrous number of Might & Magics (granted, Dark Messiah's style didn't really repeat since Arkane went to Bethesda to make Dishonored (after brief stops for "Additional Work" on Call of Duty and Bioshock 2))
Because Red Steel 1 was a garbage full of shit.

Dark Messiah was the only game Ubisoft funded since Might and Magic games were made before Ubi.

And I had no idea how popular Watch Dogs is among you guys. So I assume one of the games was good and the other shit, they are both good, or they are both shit.