General Visual Novel discussion/recommend me some VN's (possible spoilers)

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Strongly recommend 999 and Virtue's Last Reward (although they're not straight visual novels; they have puzzle sections) for an extremely good story, good puzzles, and endings that will leave your mind completely fucked.

Also, a lot of my friends have been telling me to play Ever 17 (made by some of the same people) but I haven't played it myself.
 

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NeutralDrow said:
Obligatory post and open invitation to all into our resident <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/Visual-Novels>Visual Novels usergroup.

Honestly, I'm surprised I'm the first one here...

Diddy_King said:
So, I've been on a visual novel stint lately. I started reading visual novels about a year and a half ago after I decided I wanted to continue the story of Clannad (ie. read stuff that was left out of the anime). Ever since then I've been reading/playing VN's pretty voraciously. Can't decide what I want to read next, so let's talk about some Visual Novels and maybe I can get some ideas on what to read.

Also, as for recommendations, I'll take any, but tbh I really enjoy romance in my Visual Novels, it's not a deal breaker if it doesn't have it, but I do enjoy it.
Well, you already have four of my major recommendations (Tsukihime, Fate/Stay Night, YMK, and Katawa Shoujo), so I have fewer recommendations than I might normally. On the other hand, since our tastes seem to match...

<url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.308335-Neutral-Drow-reviews-Symphonic-Rain>Symphonic Rain is very good. That's almost all I can say about it...other than pointing out that it also has a rhythm game.

You might be interested in <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.163769-Neutral-Drow-reviews-Kanon>Kanon if you liked Clannad. I haven't played the latter, so I can't really compare them, but Kanon is one of my big three favorites (along with Tsukihime and Yume Miru Kusuri), and the comparison opinion I seem to hear the most is that Clannad has the better story and side characters, but Kanon has better heroines.

While I had a...mixed opinion of it, you might give <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.237875-Neutral-Drow-reviews-Crescendo>Crescendo a try. I had problems with it, but I can see why it's a fairly popular title.

<url=www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.252998-Neutral-Drow-reviews-Princess-Waltz>Princess Waltz is a bit light on the romance, and is pretty expensive compared to other VNs, but I'll throw it out there. I liked the characters, and it's quite pretty.

You played Tsukihime. Have you played <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.139628-TYPE-MOON-reviews-Kagetsu-Tohya>Kagetsu Tohya, yet?

Obligatory <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.206764-Neutral-Drow-reviews-Kana-Little-Sister>Kana: Little Sister recommendation. I'd almost consider it required reading, though it's also a hard game to recommend, in a way.

I haven't finished them, just yet, but I'm having a lot of fun with Family Project and Snow Sakura. They're both really funny; the latter I'd describe as a romantic comedy with major, major emphasis on the comedy. And the former has Norio Wakamoto.

I'll admit watching the anime, I wasn't really a fan of Nagisa. But after playing the Visual Novel, I can say I really loved her as a character.
Oh! That sounds promising. I haven't played Clannad, yet. Well...finally got it installed, at least, but I have a few games to finish first; my backlog is huge (playing Da Capo now). I have heard complaints about her even from people who share my tastes, but since those seem to be anime-centered, I might have a better reaction than I thought.

Okay, so I've heard more complaints than that, but none of the other ones seemed to match my personal tastes, so it's one of the few I take seriously. Besides, I loved Kanon.
I have Kagetsu Tohya downloaded, but haven't started it yet. Like I mentioned I like to have some breathing space between games of the same *universe*. Though it's starting to be some months since I finished Tsukihime, so I may give it a whirl.

Kana Imouto, also have it downloaded, but I don't know if I really feel like being depressed right now. My VN friend said after he finished it he had to sit for a day just doing nothing, letting the experience settle mentally, since it's so depressing.

As for Clannad, like I've mentioned before it was my first VN so I may be biased, but I feel that Nagisa grows so much more as a character than in the anime. Heck, even if you don't care for Nagisa, you have 3 routes in the VN that didn't appear at all in the anime (ie. a route for Nagisa's father and mother, basically just getting to know them better as people, and one for a strange guy called Kappei [which was amazing]) Now that I think about it, there's a little mini route for the teacher at school, which was pretty heartwarming as well.

I joined the group, I would love to have more people to talk VNs with. Sometimes you get to the point playing VNs where you just want to stop for a minute, and reminisce about what you've read. And it's kind of hard sometimes, because the few friends I have who are into this are either playing games off my recommendations (and I have to wait for them to finish before I can really get into the nitty gritty of the game). Or don't have similar interests as I do, and haven't even heard of games like Hoshizora no Memoria, let alone played it.
 

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First Plot twist is obvious
That's actually part of of the point! I believe Alice asks why you never knew earlier. The second twist... yeesh...

I knew, Illias was Evil, but DAMN! Luka is a half angel? His entire mission being based on him punishing himself for his father's actions? For crying out loud, why can't all porn have plot this damn good! And the whole Chimeras caught me completely off guard.
 

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hmm, i just noticed you made two threads bout this at the exact same time,

not sure if i should copy paste my post here?

ahh well it was just recommending you games others have already posted about in this one anyways.
 

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I'd second any recommendation for Ever 17. Yeah, you have to play through all 4 routes to get the true ending (2 for each character, so at least you're not playing the same story 4 times) and there are plot holes you can drive a bus through if you're determined enough but it's worth it because the shocking twists in the "true" route are INCREDIBLE. I was blown away by the revelations in that final story, it justified the entire game.

Phantom is also a good game, but it's impossible to get a good version. The DVD Play version Hirameki released in the US (Phantom of Inferno) is a disgrace (DVD Play itself was just a flawed concept) and is clunky, crude and poorly translated, while the vastly superior PC version (Phantom ~Integration~) has no english version and I don't believe anyone has made a patch for it. Regardless, it's a fantastic story; yes, Phantom of Inferno is awkward to play, but it IS worth it. Take my word for it. If you can read Japanese, play Phantom ~Integration~. If you can't, play Phantom of Inferno. Totally unique. How many visual novels have YOU played where you play as a brainwashed teenage master assassin for the mob?

Hourglass of Summer is also something I'd tentatively recommend just for the Kaho route. It's also a stupid DVD Play like Phantom (if anything, it's even worse with the DVD coding being HORRIFICALLY bad) and to be completely honest I never found the interest to actually finish it- I played the Tomomi route after beating the Kaho route and was disappointed to find that her personal story was actually WORSE than the one she had integrated into the Kaho route, so I never continued. But the Kaho route is just SO good that I'd recommend finding it and playing it just for that alone.

saintdane05 said:
Obviously, there is the entire Ace Attourney series, and the ones mentioned, but I also recommend the Monster Girl Quest novels. THey are smut (Genuine smut, like, porn to the max), but smut with a good message and something to say. I should warn you, though, that the majority of the sex scenes are also rape scenes. Female on male rape scenes. There is also a bit of the occasional Vore, but none of it is gory.

Plus, it has a great sense of humor, and a varied monster design.
<spoiler=Lots of pics. May be NSFW>


Yeah, Monster Girl Quest is pretty good. Dunno why, but it FEELS better than it should; its story, while interesting, is honestly rather trite and cliche and its combat gameplay (it has pretentions of being an ero-JRPG) is pretty damn poor. But I love it anyway and found it quite addictive. Yes, partly because I have a colossal hard-on for monstergirl porn, but also because the characters are also really likeable. Alice is a great character, even if her (first) "big plot twist" is so obvious that you'll guess it the INSTANT you see her (her second one is actually pretty unexpected and hits rather hard). I'm hoping that in the upcoming chapter 3 Luka will FINALLY get over his stupid neuroses and just admit that he loves her. Honestly, the "no, I can't, she's a monster" schtick is getting REALLY old by this stage...
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Case in point. I used to be a HUGE Type-Moon fan a couple years, and now I just cringe whenever I see people praising Fate/stay night as a godly visual novel (and I mean no offense to you in particular Diddy_King).
Hmm. Well I don't know what standards you're judging visual novels by, because Fate/stay night IS still the greatest visual novel of all time. Seriously, the production standards of that thing are through the roof! 99.999% of visual novels are still just scrolling text, still character image, different still character image, occasional CG, maybe 2 or 3 movies per game. Fate animated those still images (not literally animation) to create actual ACTION scenes with them, giving a real sense of action, motion and intensity. The prologue action scene between Lancer and Archer shows this off incredibly well. The game is also REALLY long, with 3 completely different routes through that each COMPLETELY change the shape of the story- things you thought you knew are turned on their heads, characters who live in one route die in another, entirely new plot threads appear out of nowhere. Fate just does this better than ANY other visual novel I've ever played. It's staggering.
I'm seriously thinking Ever17 will be my next read. Now that I've been into this genre for a while, I think I can get into it. I'm not sure trying to tackle it as one of the first things I read was a good idea.

As for the Monster Girl Quest thing, I'll look into it, like the art I see, and the writing from those few scenes is pretty good. May have to put it on my list. Thanks for the recommendation you 2 :p.

I do admit that Fate/Stay Night felt very dynamic, the "fighting" scenes really felt like something was going on. Moreso than say Tsukihime, and really got your blood boiling. When ******MAJOR SPOILERS*******
{Emiya creates Excalibur and cuts off Berserker's arm in one swing, my heart was racing like a jackrabbit. And when he uses Unlimited Blade Works for the first time, with the text showing up sporadically and him chanting the spell, my god I still get goosebumps.}
 

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zidine100 said:
hmm, i just noticed you made two threads bout this at the exact same time,

not sure if i should copy paste my post here?

ahh well it was just recommending you games others have already posted about in this one anyways.
Didn't notice I made two threads. The first time I tried to post I got a pony unicorn saying the page didn't exist. I'll take everything that's been posted there and paste it here and delete that thread.

Edit: From the other thread

ChupathingyX said:
Have you read Symphonic Rain yet? If not I'd highly recommend it.

It features some great characters, a great soundtrack and one of the only player choices in a game that actually left me confused and torn about what to do.

Monster Girl Quest Part 1 and 2 (part 3 will be released this year) is another one of my favourites.

Despite the initial impressions it may give the story is quite good, the combat is pretty good and the characters are surprisingly very likeable and entertaining. It also pokes fun at jrpg/rpg tropes and cliches and has a good sense of humour. Just be warned that there are a lot of "NOPE" moments that may turn some people off.

If you liked Clannad then you'll most likely enjoy Planetarian too.

It's very short (less than 4 hours) but provides a rather unique setting and situation as far as romance stories go.
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kanna little sister,

yes i know it sounds like one of those weird games, but there's only about 1 or 2 h scenes in it, and well i cried.


Narcissu, its a kn but its a tearjerker. I seriously cant bring myself to play it again, not because its bad, because it made me cry manly tears.
http://narcissu.insani.org/
And as a plus its free, seriously go play it, theres also the prequel, but i prefer this one.

Kanon (play the all ages version seriously)
if you can get past the key art style its good.

rewrite, its good

chaos head if you can get the translation patch for it. If i remember rightly it was a pain to get and worse to get working.

most of the infinity series ever 17 ,remember 11 ect.

theres alot of other ones but i cant remember the names.



oh and before i forget
HERES THE BEST ONE IN THE WORLD

SHIRA OKA

why?

because im a big fat liar
 

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Only one awesome VN I know of that isn't listed here:

Demonbane (Deus Machina)!

Yes there's smut, but it has an amaaaaazing story, very Cthulhu-Crosses-With-Gundam, its incredible. The main "canon" romance is excellent, the other ones are pretty decent too and each one actually reveals even more about the story. I heartily recommend it.
 

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MisterShine said:
Only one awesome VN I know of that isn't listed here:

Demonbane (Deus Machina)!

Yes there's smut, but it has an amaaaaazing story, very Cthulhu-Crosses-With-Gundam, its incredible. The main "canon" romance is excellent, the other ones are pretty decent too and each one actually reveals even more about the story. I heartily recommend it.
I was looking at that. The art isn't up my ally to be honest, but it looks pretty interesting.
 

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Diddy_King said:
I do wholly agree that you have rose colored glasses for your first Visual Novel experience. While I don't think that Clannad (my first VN) is the best ever, I do find I have a predisposition towards Schooldays/romance visual novels. And I do also agree about Keys tendency to reuse the same idea over and over.

But I can't say I dislike it at all.
I don't know if I have anything against it in particular. It just bothers me when I can grasp a writer's pattern rather than actually wonder what is going to happen next in the story.

Though Rewrite has me curious (despite my partial anger at Ryukishi's scenario writing).



Diddy_King said:
As for what you mentioned about Fate/Stay, it's good, but it's not the best either. A fair bit of the points it gets from me are from the unique story and setting.
The setting is appealing, the problem is maintaining the readers interest. Nasu's world building isn't bad, but it gets tedious after a while. I don't think he can write characters that well though, I actually got less interested in Shirou the more he droned on and on.

I probably did enjoy UBW most of all the routes.

Kagetsu Tohya is fun. Just be sure to use a walkthrough to get through it, otherwise you will get stuck (beta testing that must have been a *****)


Diddy_King said:
Majikoi is not finished yet right? I've been keeping an eye on http://vntls.tindabox.net/ and it's still showing as incomplete, I assume there is a partial patch out? It looks great, but I'm not sure about playing something that isn't fully translated.
All but two of the main routes are translated (It's got five heroine routes, and a true route). So it's not like you'll be left with anything incomplete.

Diddy_King said:
Another one I'm interested in is Grisaia no Kajitsu (http://vntls.tindabox.net/project/grisaia-no-kajitsu/) but it is also not fully translated, even though it does have a demo out.
If you don't mind figuring things out, you can download Interactive Text Hooker and Translation Aggregator to get some rough machine translations if you're curious. If works best when the VN's are voiced cause you can end up interpreting a lot.

Diddy_King said:
And don't mind offending me when you talk about what you like and dislike. I don't get offended by anything, and I agree that people enjoy different things. It's all good, as long as we agree on the inherent strength of the genre in particular :p.
It's just that the discussions can get inevitably heated. Whether it's my fault or not.



Arcane Azmadi said:
Hmm. Well I don't know what standards you're judging visual novels by, because Fate/stay night IS still the greatest visual novel of all time.
No. It's really not. Fate is nine years old dude.
It might be your favorite and it may have been good at the time. But no it's not the best and it has been outclassed by many titles.

Arcane Azmadi said:
Seriously, the production standards of that thing are through the roof! 99.999% of visual novels are still just scrolling text, still character image, different still character image, occasional CG, maybe 2 or 3 movies per game. Fate animated those still images (not literally animation) to create actual ACTION scenes with them, giving a real sense of action, motion and intensity.
The prologue action scene between Lancer and Archer shows this off incredibly well.
Muv-Luv was released one year than it earlier and did that better.
Four titles last year had multiple scenes that were fully animated.

Arcane Azmadi said:
The game is also REALLY long,

The length of a visual novel does not factor into its quality. In the same way that bigger does not mean better. Tsukihime is only one third the length of FSN and I found it much more engaging.

Arcane Azmadi said:
with 3 completely different routes through that each COMPLETELY change the shape of the story- things you thought you knew are turned on their heads, characters who live in one route die in another, entirely new plot threads appear out of nowhere. Fate just does this better than ANY other visual novel I've ever played. It's staggering.
Yeah, it has three routes that completely change the shape of the story. That's not really an accomplishment considering how many other VNs do it as well with three or even more routes (G-Senjou and Sharin no Kuni would be good examples of this, their routes branch out of a linear plotline)
 

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Kana Imouto, also have it downloaded, but I don't know if I really feel like being depressed right now. My VN friend said after he finished it he had to sit for a day just doing nothing, letting the experience settle mentally, since it's so depressing.
If you don't cry after playing it you have no soul. Hell even the best ending is bitter-sweet, still well worth playing and highly recommended.

All the other VNs I'd recommend are ones you've already played, I really haven't played that many.
 

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Katawa Shoujo, Steins;gate, and clannad. Although, they're already suggested. But still, they good. at least, the anime adaptations.
 

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Just a protip, try to incorporate multiple responses into a single post, lest you get a warning for sextuple posts.
Diddy_King said:
I watched Kanon (Anime) and my VN friend says the VN doesn't really bring anything to the table that the Anime didn't (except for awkward sex scenes). Eventually I do plan on giving it a shot, but it's not high up their on my list.
I've actually heard that the anime isn't very good on it's own. I can't really tell, as most of the animes I've watched were VN adaptations, and I always watched them after reading the VNs. It's true that the anime has covers most of what happens in the VN, but I liked the heroine routes being separate, it allows the Yuuichi to develop deeper[sub]if you know what I mean[/sub] relationships. And the sex scenes are pretty awkward, although if I recall correctly, 4 out of 5 of them can be avoided without any reprecussions, and only 1 can't be avoided.
NeutralDrow said:
Hint: not all emotionless girls are like Rei Ayanami.

Another side note: This is officially the funniest choice I've ever been asked to make.
I played Rewrite, got through the common routes and very much enjoyed it, but I kind of burned myself out on it. I think the main reason I burned myself out on it is I did the Lucia route as like my second playthrough, and it was too good. I tend to be pretty good at saving the better routes for last, but this time I did it early and the other routes were just falling a bit flat compared to hers IMO. Chihaya's was pretty good though
{Even if it is just Unlimited Blade Works, rewritten (see what I did there :p).}
Previously mentioned VN friend finished it and loved it though, so I'll have to get back into it and wrap it up eventually.
Rewrite is similar to Little Busters in a sense, while the main routes are good, what really stands out is the unlockable route. On the other hand,
The story overall is a lot less focused on the heroines, its main focus is Kotarou.
I have heard Muv-Luv Alternative is great, but I've heard that Muv-Luv is a bit of a chore, don't remember where I heard this though, so may see about downloading that, since I've heard Alternative is pretty high up there on the rankings.
For some Muv-Luv is a chore, but I personally rather liked it. It certainly isn't nowhere near a serious or as good as Alternative, but it's not too bad in its own right.
As for Higurashi, it's another one that gets very high marks everywhere, but that art man. I'm not sure I can get past it. I'm a bit of an art snob, maybe it's since I started with Clannad and Key has such beautiful art (IMO). A friend of mine mentioned a patch for the game that used the PS2 version sprites though, so I may look into it if I can find said patch.
I was able to completely ignore VNs having poor art after Kanon, just fyi. ;) But yeah, there's a patch that updates the graphics, although I felt that it slightly lessens the cognitive dissonance that the VN inflicts on you.
Saya no Uta is another game near the top of my list. I've heard great things about it, and the fact that it's written by the same guy who wrote Fate/Zero and Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica, make me pretty interested.
Huh, I never knew that he wrote Fate/Zero in addition to Saya no Uta. The more you know.
As for Sharin no Kuni, that is like the #1 recommended VN by my VN friend, but for some reason I just can't get any drive to read it. He's been hassling me forever to read it, and while it looks pretty interesting, I just don't terribly feel like it. I'll read it eventually, but it's less so from his recommendations, and more from the fact that Akebesoft2 (the guys behind G-senjou) are also behind it.
Whatever gets you to read it works :p I've heard people people call it pretentious, and I can certainly see where they're coming from but I didn't get that vibe from it.
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Of course, how could I have forgotten Symphonic Rain. Really good VN, only problem is that you can't skip the music sequences. You can make the game play them for you, but you still have to sit through them which, despite the fact that the songs there are awesome, gets a bit repetitive.

I'm actually reading Kana Imouto right now, it's pretty good and very reminiscent of Narcissu, which is another VN I forgot about. It's short and to the point, and very much an utsuge.
 

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I recommend G-senjou no Maou it was very good

Also muv luv if you can stand playing through an extremely average story twice before it gets absolutely epic
 

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Diddy_King said:
I watched Kanon (Anime) and my VN friend says the VN doesn't really bring anything to the table that the Anime didn't (except for awkward sex scenes).
Funny, I'd reverse those. I guess I can agree in a way, but mainly because the 2006 anime actually did an extraordinary adaptation job.

I'd still recommend the VN (it brings greater time and focus for individual characters, generally more satisfying endings, and a Nayuki route that didn't have to be toned way down to remove the romantic aspects because Ayu is the official heroine), but if you've seen the KyoAni anime, I don't blame it being low priority. And the anime does add a few things that clarify aspects of the VN (like Makoto's identity, Mai's ending, and Kitagawa's freakin' first name).

Diddy_King said:
I have Kagetsu Tohya downloaded, but haven't started it yet. Like I mentioned I like to have some breathing space between games of the same *universe*. Though it's starting to be some months since I finished Tsukihime, so I may give it a whirl.
Ah, I missed that. I played it right after, myself (but then, Tsukihime was my first VN, and I had nothing else at the time except Melty Blood and Fate/Unlimited Codes).



Kana Imouto, also have it downloaded, but I don't know if I really feel like being depressed right now. My VN friend said after he finished it he had to sit for a day just doing nothing, letting the experience settle mentally, since it's so depressing.
I guess it depends on which ending you get to start with, that determines the ratio of sad vs. depressing.

Though I admit, I did have to take a two week break before getting a second ending. It wasn't even that it was straight-up sad. I just loved Kana herself so much and managed to ignore the elephant in the room so long that the ending hurt all the more. Always interesting to hear peoples' reactions to that game, though it's hard to really talk about it with people who haven't played it.

I joined the group, I would love to have more people to talk VNs with. Sometimes you get to the point playing VNs where you just want to stop for a minute, and reminisce about what you've read. And it's kind of hard sometimes, because the few friends I have who are into this are either playing games off my recommendations (and I have to wait for them to finish before I can really get into the nitty gritty of the game). Or don't have similar interests as I do, and haven't even heard of games like Hoshizora no Memoria, let alone played it.
I know the feeling. If you want to get into the really big conversations, I'd recommend the Muv-Luv series. Haven't played it myself, but at least half the group (the ten or so of us who post regularly, at least) swear by it.

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Just a protip, try to incorporate multiple responses into a single post, lest you get a warning for sextuple posts.
Diddy_King said:
I watched Kanon (Anime) and my VN friend says the VN doesn't really bring anything to the table that the Anime didn't (except for awkward sex scenes). Eventually I do plan on giving it a shot, but it's not high up their on my list.
I've actually heard that the anime isn't very good on it's own. I can't really tell, as most of the animes I've watched were VN adaptations, and I always watched them after reading the VNs. It's true that the anime has covers most of what happens in the VN, but I liked the heroine routes being separate, it allows the Yuuichi to develop deeper[sub]if you know what I mean[/sub] relationships. And the sex scenes are pretty awkward, although if I recall correctly, 4 out of 5 of them can be avoided without any reprecussions, and only 1 can't be avoided.
Oddly enough, that one unavoidable scene was the only one I had problems with.

But yeah, I agree. Granted, I'd probably have been incredibly sad over a certain character's story in the anime even without the game, but the game gave me a much longer time to meet her, dislike her, and slowly warm up to her. The anime did a good job of reminding me of that, to the tune of making me sob for forty minutes straight once I realized what was happening, but the game...

NeutralDrow said:
Hint: not all emotionless girls are like Rei Ayanami.

Another side note: This is officially the funniest choice I've ever been asked to make.
Sometimes I think half the reason I write those reviews is because of images like that.

Dear Penthouse Forum...

Codeine is a helluva drug.

...dammit, I still need to finish writing my Katawa Shoujo review.

NeutralDrow said:
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Of course, how could I have forgotten Symphonic Rain. Really good VN, only problem is that you can't skip the music sequences. You can make the game play them for you, but you still have to sit through them which, despite the fact that the songs there are awesome, gets a bit repetitive.
Honestly, I never noticed, because I never wanted to skip them. I like rhythm games to begin with, and the ones in SR honestly felt like practicing and perfecting music over the course of sessions. Reminded me a lot of being in a band.

Even down to the 30 or so attempts it took me to pass Rain Musique for the first time. >_>

I'm actually reading Kana Imouto right now, it's pretty good and very reminiscent of Narcissu, which is another VN I forgot about. It's short and to the point, and very much an utsuge.
I still need to read Narcissu. It's been installed on my computer for over a year now, but I keep forgetting it's there.
 

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Honestly, I never noticed, because I never wanted to skip them. I like rhythm games to begin with, and the ones in SR honestly felt like practicing and perfecting music over the course of sessions. Reminded me a lot of being in a band.

Even down to the 30 or so attempts it took me to pass Rain Musique for the first time. >_>
I also enjoy rhythm games, but I am terrible at them. I couldn't even get close to winning on normal, and easy is pretty much auto mode, but you can't just afk listen. So the first time I played through the game, I kept it on auto mode and just enjoyed the music. Then I added the songs to my tablet's playlist, so when later on I decided to replay the game, wanting to simply read the story, I couldn't skip the rhythm game, and I'd already heard the songs tons of times. Perhaps the fact that the songs were so good partially worked against it in this case, at least for me.
 

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Kamidori is really fun and the artwork is fantastic. The gameplay is similar to Fire Emblem and theres tons of looting and creating items