George Lucas is "Retiring" From Film

K_Dub

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I don't feel bad for him. At all. Lucas is a decent director, but he took his best known film franchise and ran it into the ground. If he wasn't prepared for some kind of backlash, he probably shouldn't have gotten into the business in the first place.

So kudos George Lucas! I'm glad that you can go on to do your own thing with your own films, and that you'll leave the Star Wars franchise alone (I hope...).
 

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Samus Aaron said:
Oh please, anyone who isn't a diehard Star Wars fanboy can see that "his shitty versions" are barely different from the originals at all. So Han shot first, so what? These are minor changes that don't detract much at all from the films as a whole.
I disagree. Take the entry into Mos Eisly. On the surface it seems insigificant. Add in some extra activity to make the town look more lively. Obi-Wan still utters the line "you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy". Shouldn't make a difference right.

Yet in the special edition version when Luke and Obi-Wan enter it feels comedic and cartoony. Everything added was an animal or a droid that doesn't add any sense of populous. The original, even if it wasn't as populated as he liked, had a gritty feeling to it. A change like that alters the entire tone of that scene and the subsequent events that occur there. You lose any sense of danger or threat when you are introduced to it in that manner. It is also absurd, from a cinemetography standpoint, to lose focus on your protagonists in order to have big bulking CGI monsters block the entire view. It ceases to be a well framed shot.
 

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Now we just have to wait for him to die + 50 years. Or maybe it was 150 years... I'm not sure, Wikipedia is still on strike, which I wholeheartedly support... but ouch its painful.
 

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Seems like I'm the last person on earth who still likes Lucas.

Farewell Lucas, good luck in your future endeavours.
 

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Samus Aaron said:
Who the hell cares that Lucas altered his films? Is he not entitled to create his stories as he wishes? Further, his edits are so minor that they're barely noticeable at all, and any person who hasn't seen the unaltered versions wouldn't think any less of the altered versions. I really don't see why Lucas is so hated despite everything he has accomplished.
I'll let George Lucas answer you.

My name is George Lucas. I am a writer, director, and producer of motion pictures and Chairman of the Board of Lucasfilm Ltd., a multi-faceted entertainment corporation.
I am not here today as a writer-director, or as a producer, or as the chairman of a corporation. I've come as a citizen of what I believe to be a great society that is in need of a moral anchor to help define and protect its intellectual and cultural heritage. It is not being protected.
The destruction of our film heritage, which is the focus of concern today, is only the tip of the iceberg. American law does not protect our painters, sculptors, recording artists, authors, or filmmakers from having their lifework distorted, and their reputation ruined. If something is not done now to clearly state the moral rights of artists, current and future technologies will alter, mutilate, and destroy for future generations the subtle human truths and highest human feeling that talented individuals within our society have created.
A copyright is held in trust by its owner until it ultimately reverts to public domain. American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history.
People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society. The preservation of our cultural heritage may not seem to be as politically sensitive an issue as "when life begins" or "when it should be appropriately terminated," but it is important because it goes to the heart of what sets mankind apart. Creative expression is at the core of our humanness. Art is a distinctly human endeavor. We must have respect for it if we are to have any respect for the human race.
These current defacements are just the beginning. Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder. Tommorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with "fresher faces," or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor's lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new "original" negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists have had to go to Eastern bloc countries where American films have been better preserved.
In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.
There is nothing to stop American films, records, books, and paintings from being sold to a foreign entity or egotistical gangsters and having them change our cultural heritage to suit their personal taste.
I accuse the companies and groups, who say that American law is sufficient, of misleading the Congress and the People for their own economic self-interest.
I accuse the corporations, who oppose the moral rights of the artist, of being dishonest and insensitive to American cultural heritage and of being interested only in their quarterly bottom line, and not in the long-term interest of the Nation.
The public's interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests. And the proof of that is that even a copyright law only permits the creators and their estate a limited amount of time to enjoy the economic fruits of that work.
There are those who say American law is sufficient. That's an outrage! It's not sufficient! If it were sufficient, why would I be here? Why would John Houston have been so studiously ignored when he protested the colorization of "The Maltese Falcon?" Why are films cut up and butchered?
Attention should be paid to this question of our soul, and not simply to accounting procedures. Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself.
I hope you have the courage to lead America in acknowledging the importance of American art to the human race, and accord the proper protection for the creators of that art, as it is accorded them in much of the rest of the world communities.

Remember, Lucas isn't even the screenwriter nor director for two of "his" films.
You know, it'd be interesting if it turned out he's done what he did to Star Wars to prove that point. Showing people what would happen by doing it himself.


..... hmmm, that may be giving him a bit too much credit...
 

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Samus Aaron said:
Who the hell cares that Lucas altered his films? Is he not entitled to create his stories as he wishes? Further, his edits are so minor that they're barely noticeable at all, and any person who hasn't seen the unaltered versions wouldn't think any less of the altered versions. I really don't see why Lucas is so hated despite everything he has accomplished.
The problem is that even small tweaks, enough small tweaks make a big tweak and then its no longer what you loved.

If they were a seperate story, it would be OK, but hes taking old work and not every letting it die or stay the same.
 

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Sojoez said:
Nasrin said:
"Why would I make any more," Lucas stated about continuing with his popular sci-fi universe, "when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?"

Not the best logic ever...
We think you're a terrible person, George, because you made more bad films. Clearly everyone was on board with what you were doing only until you started to rape Harrison Ford in public.
The problem now is that people see a George Lucas movie and label it 'bad' just because its the bandwagony thing to do.
Seriously, How many here saw the trailer for Red Tails, said: looks awesome! Then saw/heard that its made by Lucas and thought: Oh, it will suck because Star Wars.
Actually, the first thing I thought after "That looks shitty..." was. "Didn't Cuba Gooding Jr already make a Tuskegee Airman movie...?"
I didn't know that Lucas had anything to do with it until I started seeing press.

Back on topic of the OP: I'm glad he's gtfo of moviemaking, tho. He's not made anything even remotely good since the original triloogy without the aid of Spielberg and even THAT last effort was utter garbage. The fact that he's whining about how fans have treated him after he gleefully accepted a billion dollars from merch sales from us whiny fans (of the original trilogy) makes me want to put hm in a gym locker like the bully that I apparently am.
 

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It's a shame he didn't retire before making episodes 1, 2 and 3. They might have actually been good then.
 

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I think it had more to do with changing the past and selling out then making movies. He didn't make that many 'new' things, just kept with milking the Starwars franchise. And that is how he will be remembered, not many know he made other movies like Willow. But despite his fame he didn't make many movies.
 

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You do have to feel some sympathy for George, I mean it's gotta suck to have everyone complain at you and have to deal with so many fan boys. Although if he didn't want people to yell at him for making edits for re releases, THEN DON'T MAKE EDITS, it's really as simple as that
 

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InvisibleMan said:
No one ever said Lucas is a terrible person! Only that he is a terrible director...
And writer. Can't forget that.

The man's an amazing visionary; hell, his universe inspired me to make my own. But goddamn the man can't write worth shit.

Addendum: Although I'll admit, I feel kinda bad for him. Idiot fanboys have once again reduced a creator to a sniveling heap of broken dreams.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I think the Lucas bashing has gone overboard. He's not the devil, he's not "ruining your childhoods" or any of that.

However, George, I think a good chunk of it would stop if you were to re-release the original Star Wars trilogy without any of the changes. I mean really, is it that hard to understand that some people just want to watch Star Wars, and NOT Star Wars: Digital Facelift CGI Hayden Christenson Edition?
 

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Aslo, maybe instead of altering the same films a million times (which caused the fans to groan) he might have tried to... Ohh I don't know... MAKE A NEW MOVIE ABOUT THE STAR WARS ?UNIVERSE??? *gasp*

I would have killed, KILLED to see a live-action retelling of the story of Exar Kun...
 

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Kakashi on crack said:
Aslo, maybe instead of altering the same films a million times (which caused the fans to groan) he might have tried to... Ohh I don't know... MAKE A NEW MOVIE ABOUT THE STAR WARS ?UNIVERSE??? *gasp*

I would have killed, KILLED to see a live-action retelling of the story of Exar Kun...
But that's a part of the EU universe, and George Lucus doesn't like the EU very much.
 

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Strange I almost pity him...
On second thoughts, no I dont.
Your profile clip perfectly matches your comment.
OP: Good, now maybe he can conjure up some new stories instead of Indiana Jones and the crystal skull-ing...yes it's a verb.
 

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Tumedus said:
Samus Aaron said:
Oh please, anyone who isn't a diehard Star Wars fanboy can see that "his shitty versions" are barely different from the originals at all. So Han shot first, so what? These are minor changes that don't detract much at all from the films as a whole.
I disagree. Take the entry into Mos Eisly. On the surface it seems insigificant. Add in some extra activity to make the town look more lively. Obi-Wan still utters the line "you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy". Shouldn't make a difference right.

Yet in the special edition version when Luke and Obi-Wan enter it feels comedic and cartoony. Everything added was an animal or a droid that doesn't add any sense of populous. The original, even if it wasn't as populated as he liked, had a gritty feeling to it. A change like that alters the entire tone of that scene and the subsequent events that occur there. You lose any sense of danger or threat when you are introduced to it in that manner. It is also absurd, from a cinemetography standpoint, to lose focus on your protagonists in order to have big bulking CGI monsters block the entire view. It ceases to be a well framed shot.
I still don't think it fundamentally alters the film. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.