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Geeze man, it was Sunday, sorry but I have better things to do than to argue on the Internet, for example I played Final Fantasy XII for 14 hours this Sunday and I must say that's a much better use of my time.I don't suppose you live in a country with voter identification, do you? Were they solving a problem that didn't exist by implementing that? Was is ass-backwards to do so?
As for then IDs, yeah we do have them in México they're mostly pointless, basically just make you waste your time if you want to vote, because you may need to go anywhere between 2 and 5 times just to get the ID, and then if you move you have to get a new one otherwise you're not eligible to vote in local elections (You still can vote for president, just not the local candidates like Governor, Municipal President, senators, etc), seems to me like mostly a waste of time and resources, the difference if we had them or not wouldn't be significantly big other than there'd be less time wasted if we didn't have them, therefore I don't think they're necessary and if they're not necessary then they're a waste of time and resources.
Requiring an ID for all of that sounds like an authoritarian hellhole, like I can kinda understand it for making it harder for minors to access mind altering substances and guns for minors, and under the system we live in having some certification for financial affairs is standard so that kind of stuff doesn't surprise me, but really for youtube? Like you have to give up sensitive information to a megacorp? That sounds like a terrible idea putting you personal information at risk for something like watching a youtube video is absolutely absurd and needing a permit to protest?What you need ID for:
Legally drive in the USA
Have a bank account
Have a Paypal account
Buy tickets to a number of events
Buy alcohol
Buy Weed
Watch age gated content on youtube (yes really that's a new thing being brought in)
Some states welfare payments
Gun registration / ownership
Permits for protests etc
To legally get married
Certain medication purchases.
Would it really be a waste of time to push for people to have some form of ID to access said services?
That's just fucking stupid, I bet it costs money too, to me that screams authoritarian hell-hole
AND YES, it would be a waste of time because those services, particularly the right to protest which automatically makes it illegal for unregistered people (By which I mean both people who weren't registered when they were born and illegal immigrants) to protest, you should be furious that you require an ID to do these things, it's such a transparent attempt of the government to suppress the voices of the marginalised that I don't even know what to say, actually I don't even know if you're talking about where you live.
I don't think you get it, just because one thing is being arbitrarily inconvenienced it doesn't mean more things should be, in fact we should be wanting to streamline these processes so that more people can vote, that is after all the point of a DEMOCRACY, you shouldn't be gatekeeping voting you should be expanding it so that the voices of the people can be heard, reducing the number of people that can vote goes directly against the principle of DEMOCRACY.Some states apply ID laws to gun ownership with is the 2nd amendment right but voting is seen as a problem to require ID? Supposedly the right to bear arms is a right every US citizen has but that's restricted by ID laws so it seems funny really people are trying to make the argument against voter ID laws when the same people really aren't going to be calling for repeals of gun ID laws anytime soon.
Here it's Fox news but it kinda shows the almost hilarity of the voter ID debate
I get it it's nigh impossible to imagine, I have basically been able to read and right as far back as I can remember, to the point that I don't even remember learning to do so, it's more like a thing I can do as naturally as just being able to see, which is exactly my point, we don't think about these things because reading is so natural that there's no need to, so rather than trying to put more barriers in the way of voting we should be working in eliminating, if a significant portion of the population probably can't vote because they can't read, we should be investigating how we can help them do it without them having to read, things like having photos and investigating what are universally understood symbols could help, but also recognising that they must actually be really clever, I can't even imagine how I would manage my life if I couldn't read or write so they must be extremely resourceful, besides considering the shit people write I think it's pretty safe to say that being able to read or write isn't a sign of intelligence, I mean I learned how to do it when I was 3 and I'm nothing remotely close to genius.As for the argument about people who are illiterate......... how the hell do they manage to get through life? I mean even to vote you have to be able to read the names of the candidates to know who you're voting for most places I'd imagine so already the system is excluding them from truly having a voice.