German Videogame Ban Derailed by Internet Petition

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German Videogame Ban Derailed by Internet Petition


The German government's effort to impose sweeping bans on videogames has been tripped up by a lowly internet petition.

Germany began moving toward a widespread ban on violent games [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/92246-Germany-Moves-Closer-to-Violent-Videogame-Ban] in the wake of the Winnenden school shooting that resulted in the deaths of 15 people as well as the shooter. Despite the fact that games didn't figure prominently in the killer's life, German state and federal authorities seized on the incident as a tragic example of gaming's impact and began taking steps to ban all videogames involving "the [realistic] killing of people or other cruel or un-human acts of violence against humans or manlike characters."

German gamers responded as gamers are wont to do: With an Gamezine [http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/game-industry/30-000-germans-sign-petition-against-ban-on-all-violent-video-games-$1310477.htm], the government is required by law to hold public hearings on any online petition that breaks 50,000 signatures. How interesting that in Germany, where an outright ban on mainstream games is looming as a very real possibility, the internet petition, that oft-maligned symbol of impotent nerd rage, isn't such a toothless beast after all.

Not that it necessarily means much; German authorities could hold their hearing as required and then move ahead with their plans unchanged. The large number of signatures may give the government pause, however, especially since the petition will continue to collect signatures until August 19. Could an internet petition be the salvation of gamers of Germany? It would be sweet.


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Deathsong17

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Come on German video game industry! Were rooting for ya!
*edit* How come no one's got a Counter-Strike picture, considering that's the game that started it all?
 

Florion

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So, in theory, if the German "Petition for Universal Laser Beam Powers" reached 50 000, they would have to hold a hearing about it? >:3
 

JRCB

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I'm rooting for the petitioners on this one. Can't stop the gamers.
 

tomtom94

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*gasp* People choosing what direction the country moves in, in a democracy?
How shocking.

Go German gamers! And I say we bring that piece of legislation about 50000 signatures to England as well. Might help politicians realise how much we hate them.
The problem for us is that we are a part of the EU and I imagine that a ban on violent video games will somehow make its way onto the agenda. And knowing Gordon Brown...
 

AboveUp

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They should do the maths over there.
Which has killed more: Artists or gamers?
 

Pandalisk

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Come on Germans FIGHT FOR THE INDUSTRY!, do us all proud!, heh i got my girlfriends nephew to sign the petition in Germany when i told him about it, Just doing my part :p

Glefistus said:
He who burns Video Games burns people.


...oh, and just because one guy may have had underlying psychological conditions, doesn't mean that you should ban something for responsible, sane adults.
People have the strangest ability to ignore the blatantly obvious, usually the ones in power, its an interesting phenomenon
 

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AboveUp said:
They should do the maths over there.
Which has killed more: Artists or gamers?
what what about games as art?(shadow of the colosus, katamari etc.) My god this could be the fourth reich right under our noses.
 

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What the Germans should do is make it a requirement to own a gaming license to buy a video game, and before you can have a license you have to go through a physcological profile test, so no unstable mass-murders can play them.
Although this will never happen because of civil rights and such.
 

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Beltom1066 said:
What the Germans should do is make it a requirement to own a gaming license to buy a video game, and before you can have a license you have to go through a physcological profile test, so no unstable mass-murders can play them.
Although this will never happen because of civil rights and such.
Yes but all people have anger, if one should be traumatized or be pissed of so badly that he commits an murder, by accident or not, the gaming industry will have their ass on a platter, even if games were totally unrelated.
 

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Beltom1066 said:
What the Germans should do is make it a requirement to own a gaming license to buy a video game, and before you can have a license you have to go through a physcological profile test, so no unstable mass-murders can play them.
Although this will never happen because of civil rights and such.
That's completely unnecessary. What would be the point? An unstable mass-murder is not going to stop killing people because he has a little license saying he can't play video games.
 

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Hehe, I signed the petition ( No, I'm not german ;) ). It's almost at 70'000 now! I figure, the more people sign this thing, the likelier it is to have an impact.
 

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Glefistus said:
Internet Kraken said:
Beltom1066 said:
What the Germans should do is make it a requirement to own a gaming license to buy a video game, and before you can have a license you have to go through a physcological profile test, so no unstable mass-murders can play them.
Although this will never happen because of civil rights and such.
That's completely unnecessary. What would be the point? An unstable mass-murder is not going to stop killing people because he has a little license saying he can't play video games.
I believe he is poking fun at gun laws.
Then I'm stupid for missing the joke.

Anyways, even though this petition has a large number of supporters, I don't think it will actually help. The problem is that they will look at this petition, and rather than seeing the signatures of people, they will see the signatures of gamers. And they probably think that gamers have no idea what they are talking about, so they will just ignore it.
 

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YYYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!

I told you guys that the Left 4 Dead 2 petition was a good thing, I fucking called it! I CALLED IT BIOTCHES!! (Depending if this was after the L4D2 thing, but whatever)

I say if something comes up that many people don't like, petition against it or whatever. People wante LAN in Starcraft 2, so they made a petition, and we all agree that LAN is an important part of Starcraft right? (Though I don't know how successful they are, last I heard Blizzard was "looking into" the situation")

If we transfer all that energy stuff to something like DRM with EA, make it around, I dunno, 500,000 signatures, then an internet petition would be much more effective then 500,000 people pirating the next EA game. All that does is motivate EA even more out of fear.

but I'm trailing away, good luck to those German gamers, we are all with them in mushrooms.
 

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deathsong17 said:
Come on German video game industry! Were rooting for ya!
*edit* How come no one's got a Counter-Strike picture, considering that's the game that started it all?
Crysis is by a german dev
 

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Germany is so paranoid about Nazis and violence that they're already going down that road banning video games.


Internet Kraken said:
Beltom1066 said:
What the Germans should do is make it a requirement to own a gaming license to buy a video game, and before you can have a license you have to go through a physcological profile test, so no unstable mass-murders can play them.
Although this will never happen because of civil rights and such.
That's completely unnecessary. What would be the point? An unstable mass-murder is not going to stop killing people because he has a little license saying he can't play video games.
I guess the only thing that you'd be doing is limiting the ways that things could get worse. But that would barely make a difference, since there are plenty of ways for someone to drive themselves insane and unstable.

The only thing you'd manage to do is make games less to blame for events such as school shootings, since no one would be able to say that games MADE them become unstable. If you were rated through a physcological profile test, then you'd either be fit to play games or unfit, and if you were unfit and played them anyways, it'd be the fault of the person who played them.
 

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johnman said:
deathsong17 said:
Come on German video game industry! Were rooting for ya!
*edit* How come no one's got a Counter-Strike picture, considering that's the game that started it all?
Crysis is by a german dev
That's Crysis? Oh! Didn't realise that!