Wait, what? Why? Why does she deserve pity?pulse2 said:I do feel sorry for her,
"Interesting"? How? She's just a racist prick. She doesn't have any sort of "interesting opinion" buried under there.pulse2 said:and while she might have had an interesting opinion in regards to immigration it all just came out as pointless jabber.
No, the right not to be racially abused on the way home from work by a mouthy little shit.Volf99 said:Other peoples rights? What right? The right to not be offended? lmao, video explains it all:
Must be really nice living up in that ivory tower of yours. Are you suggesting pilgrumator goes and loudly vocalizes opinions of the KKK and NeoNazis in an environment where pilgrumator could be faced with physical repercussions? Much like the woman you're trying to defend? Last I read, he said they weren't overtly racist. As in, loudly vocalizing their opinions in a public venue. Even when they do a rally, they go through proper channels to legally spout their hate-fuel.Jedihunter4 said:hang on, you have talked to KKK members and have associated with them to the the point that you have been around them when their drunk?pilgrumator said:I'd just like to say that I'm from the American "Deep South" - one of the most stereotypically racist and xenophobic areas that I know of - and I haven't seen someone that overtly racist in my life. I know KKK members (not the smartest bunch, those neo-nazis, and I don't associate with them outside of classes for fear of catching ignorance like it's some sort of contagious virus, but I've talked with them) and they're not as blatant about it, even when their drunk.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is that she should be shot into the deepest reaches of space and left to chat with whatever creatures reside within.
i'm not being ott but if your pretending to be okay with people that are members of a group that are overtly open about their hate of entire races and are responsible for atrocities and to my knowledge are an illegal organisiation, just to make your own life a little easier an from the sounds of it you know the difference from right an wrong then your in no position to judge anyone.
Last I checked, he didn't say anything about the KKK or NeoNazis being any better than the train woman.Jedihunter4 said:just because they "keep it on the down low" does not make them any better, this woman is deeply misguided and ignorant but underneath is expressing a growing concern within British society of "out of control" immigration an national culture quite literally being replaced and creating segregated communities
So because KKK did bad things he isn't allowed an opinion on judging people who have racist outburts in the UK?Jedihunter4 said:the KKK shot an hung people and burnt people alive, unless your in an episode of quantum leap then you've got not excuse, and your in no position to decide right an wrong if your even saying "hello" to people who are members of such groups to make your own life easier. If your so sure why have you not informed the police?
Funny how people like that don't realize that Christianity is just Jesus's take on Jewish laws. And that Jesus was a Jew. >_>Bobbity said:We actually had someone like this on a tram in my city once. I hopped on with a friend, and there was a guy up the front screaming abuse at the Jewish man sitting next to him. "It's a good thing you don't believe in hell, because that's where you're fucking going!" was one of the many, delightful quotes I have from that experience. He got louder and louder as more people started yelling at him, until the tram driver thankfully threw him off.
There's not much else to say - you nailed it.Tirunus said:Freedom of speech is the right to say what you wish, freedom of speech is not screaming obscenities at random black people on a crowded tram.
In space...no one can hear racism. And a sequel later, the ***** is back!pilgrumator said:Basically, what I'm trying to say is that she should be shot into the deepest reaches of space and left to chat with whatever creatures reside within.
That is pretty harsh. I think it would be better to try to get her to understand that they are people just like her.pilgrumator said:Basically, what I'm trying to say is that she should be shot into the deepest reaches of space and left to chat with whatever creatures reside within.
The CCCP? What? You do realize that I was referring the political party in the PRC, which is called the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), right? lol, take a look:Magichead said:No, we support someone being criminally charged for being an offensive **** and threatening physical violence. Expressing an opinion doesn't require you to board public transport and begin ranting incoherently about how there are too many black and brown people, swearing repeatedly at anyone who tells you to button it, and threatening people. And it's CCCP, CCP are a company of Icelandic game developers - if you're going to try casting someone in a negative light, at least get the name of the organisation to whom you are comparing them right.Volf99 said:hmm... your right, we should punish people who express an unpopular opinion! I mean why let people have the freedom to express themselves?! Outrageous! *sarcasm*Vanguard_Ex said:She doesn't have an interesting opinion. She has a rampantly racist opinion and thinks that countless people who have put more into my country than she ever will should leave based on their skin colour. End of.
Edit: And before they crawl out the woodwork, no, she is not protected by freedom of speech. She deserved to be arrested and the police have every justification to punish her.
Get serious man, are you really supporting someone being CRIMINALLY charged because they expressed an opinion? Really? I mean really? lol, you know who else punishes people when they express an unpopular opinion? The CCP when people say things that are deemed "criminal" to say.
EDIT: And for fuck's sake, if all you "land of the freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" types are going to jump in, at least get it right, she was charged with a racially aggravated public order offense, not "racism".
That I can agree with. It goes too far when you arrest her, but I'm not against kicking her off the train.Bobbity said:No, the right not to be racially abused on the way home from work by a mouthy little shit.Volf99 said:Other peoples rights? What right? The right to not be offended? lmao, video explains it all:
There's a difference between giving offence and inciting hatred. This woman should not be lauded for taking a stance against political correctness - she should be condemned for her utter racism and intolerance.
She should not have been arrested, no, but she should have bloody well been thrown off the tram.
You mean the black dude who's restrained by what looks like his white girl friend? That also made me smile. Shows how much of a minority that mouthy female dog really is.mr. awesome said:I also love how the guy behind her gets up to do something, from the looks of it, violent; but is stopped by someone next to him.
So you're saying verbal abuse should be protected under freedom of speech? Well, at that tare, why not make it okay for people to fire guns in public just because they have a right to own them; let's allow people to drive with reckless abandonment just because they bought the damned car; let's give people the right to use their pet rabbit to go about and spread rabies to the children of the neighborhood. *much sarcasm*Volf99 said:hmm... your right, we should punish people who express an unpopular opinion! I mean why let people have the freedom to express themselves?! Outrageous! *sarcasm*Vanguard_Ex said:She doesn't have an interesting opinion. She has a rampantly racist opinion and thinks that countless people who have put more into my country than she ever will should leave based on their skin colour. End of.
Edit: And before they crawl out the woodwork, no, she is not protected by freedom of speech. She deserved to be arrested and the police have every justification to punish her.
Get serious man, are you really supporting someone being CRIMINALLY charged because they expressed an opinion? Really? I mean really? lol, you know who else punishes people when they express an unpopular opinion? The CCP when people say things that are deemed "criminal" to say.