GOG Holds "Pay What You Want" Sale on Interplay Games

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giant citizen kabuto i still have the cd for, funny funny game and highly rated when it came out. tons of the cut scenes are on utube for the lulz.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
gardian06 said:
why is it
Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy ALL the Interplay games for a penny?
I never said that my complaint with the amount they were charging my complaint is with the actual bait and switch that is going on. to avoid complications, and miss-understanding the definition of a bait and switch is promising one thing (in this case a pay-what-you-want bundle which most gamers will recognize from humble bundle), and then replacing said promised thing with either a different item, or a different offer partially or entirely (this case creating an artificial price-point that is over and above the standard) granted yes the price is still "reasonable" though my major complaint is not with the service, or the company, it is with their inability to call this "sale" (which is what it is) a sale, and instead use a term that is synonymous with charity, funding developers, and actual pure choice in price point. instead of saying the word sale.

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why is it that whenever GoG says the words pay-what-you-want I just know they are going to make artificial price points? oh yeah because this happened http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120055-GOG-com-Introduces-Pay-What-You-Want-Divinity-Bundle meaning that they are still trying to understand what pay-what-you-want means. the say way a rapist tries to understand what consent means.
Did you honestly just compare a game bundle to rape? That goes straight past offensive and just ends up being hilarious. Thank you, I needed a good laugh today.
granted yes what a said was over the top, and was thought in a sarcastic context, but the principle which I explain above is my reasoning


and I understand that there is still a pay what you want aspect, but at the same time there is still a bait, and switch going on. granted this is only the second even slightly underhanded thing that I have ever heard GoG doing that doesn't mean that they are infallible, or unable to do bad things (the statement "my husband has never hurt anyone before there is no reason to believe he would do this violent thing" is still used as a defence for some pretty hanius stuff) I just wish that people would realize that just because a company has done some/several "good" things does not mean that they are acolights of the second coming or something.
 

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klaynexas3 said:
Andy Chalk said:
gardian06 said:
why is it
Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy ALL the Interplay games for a penny?
As a writer for the site, I assume you know most of the rules around here. Might I ask, is it possible to report someone for just saying stupid stuff? Because I think that gardian is a little over due for it. He complained about the same thing when gog did this model for the Divinity games a week or so back.
actually my complaint was similar, but actually different in the previous article I complaining that a company that is typically known for doing good business, and making older games available to the public took it upon themselves to artificially create a bidding war pitting human tenancy to one-up each other in an attempt to win to simply increase profit. by offering a higher payout to those who spend within the top 10% which basically says that "hey this thing that you want here it is, and now you have to pay double, and then triple, etc... in order to obtain it" which means that they are more concerned with profits then actually providing that content.

here I am complaining about the realistic bait and switch that is going on. don't think this is a bait and switch "look it up" the only reason you couldn't call that completely is because there is aspect of what was used of the "bait" present, but it does not give purpose to what is actually being asked.

here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
 
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I've only ever heard of fallout 1 and 2 from that list... What other notable games are there in that list, and what genres? I dont want to pay $35 for just fallout 1 and 2 and I know nothing about the other games here...
Two off the top of my head that I feel everyone should play are Freespace 2 and MDK 2.

Freespace 2 was the last great space-combat sim. Manages to hold up really well today. And has a surprisingly well-told story. It was developed by Volition, makers of Saints Row.

MDK 2 is a third-person action-shooter made by Bioware, and it's pretty fantastic. You play as a Canadian janitor in a super-suit who has to save Edmonton (and Earth) from invading aliens. It sweet.

I'd suggest just buying those. Together it'd cost you 12 and I'd say they're more than worth it.
 

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gardian06 said:
klaynexas3 said:
Andy Chalk said:
gardian06 said:
why is it
Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy ALL the Interplay games for a penny?
As a writer for the site, I assume you know most of the rules around here. Might I ask, is it possible to report someone for just saying stupid stuff? Because I think that gardian is a little over due for it. He complained about the same thing when gog did this model for the Divinity games a week or so back.
actually my complaint was similar, but actually different in the previous article I complaining that a company that is typically known for doing good business, and making older games available to the public took it upon themselves to artificially create a bidding war pitting human tenancy to one-up each other in an attempt to win to simply increase profit. by offering a higher payout to those who spend within the top 10% which basically says that "hey this thing that you want here it is, and now you have to pay double, and then triple, etc... in order to obtain it" which means that they are more concerned with profits then actually providing that content.

here I am complaining about the realistic bait and switch that is going on. don't think this is a bait and switch "look it up" the only reason you couldn't call that completely is because there is aspect of what was used of the "bait" present, but it does not give purpose to what is actually being asked.

here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
Had they said it was for the Rollzroys, yes, I would, since there was obviously foul play there. Here, it just says you can buy Interplay games for any price you want. It doesn't say you get them all and it doesn't say you get some of their best stuff, it just says you can pay whatever for some games by them. While the fixed price on the 32 games does take away from the pay what you want a bit, it's still a good deal and I can't say I can complain about it. Eight games on gog can cost mostly at a minimum for regular price of $40.00, and you're allowed to get it for less than $10. Pay a little more than $10(at this point anyway, it might change soon), and then you get $100.00 of video games. Pay $35.00 and you have $160.00 worth. It's not a bad deal, and not one worth complaining about. I'll admit it isn't the best pay what you want model in terms of what we've seen in the past with ones such as the Humble Indie Bundle, but it's definitly still a very good model. And, the fixed price at the end does mean that if it did turn into a bidding war, the best stuff wouldn't be out of reach for everyone. I'll admit to the Divinity II 10% one being sketchy, but this model is a clear improvement.
 

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klaynexas3 said:
gardian06 said:
klaynexas3 said:
Andy Chalk said:
gardian06 said:
why is it
Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy ALL the Interplay games for a penny?
As a writer for the site, I assume you know most of the rules around here. Might I ask, is it possible to report someone for just saying stupid stuff? Because I think that gardian is a little over due for it. He complained about the same thing when gog did this model for the Divinity games a week or so back.
actually my complaint was similar, but actually different in the previous article I complaining that a company that is typically known for doing good business, and making older games available to the public took it upon themselves to artificially create a bidding war pitting human tenancy to one-up each other in an attempt to win to simply increase profit. by offering a higher payout to those who spend within the top 10% which basically says that "hey this thing that you want here it is, and now you have to pay double, and then triple, etc... in order to obtain it" which means that they are more concerned with profits then actually providing that content.

here I am complaining about the realistic bait and switch that is going on. don't think this is a bait and switch "look it up" the only reason you couldn't call that completely is because there is aspect of what was used of the "bait" present, but it does not give purpose to what is actually being asked.

here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
Had they said it was for the Rollzroys, yes, I would, since there was obviously foul play there. Here, it just says you can buy Interplay games for any price you want. It doesn't say you get them all and it doesn't say you get some of their best stuff, it just says you can pay whatever for some games by them. While the fixed price on the 32 games does take away from the pay what you want a bit, it's still a good deal and I can't say I can complain about it. Eight games on gog can cost mostly at a minimum for regular price of $40.00, and you're allowed to get it for less than $10. Pay a little more than $10(at this point anyway, it might change soon), and then you get $100.00 of video games. Pay $35.00 and you have $160.00 worth. It's not a bad deal, and not one worth complaining about. I'll admit it isn't the best pay what you want model in terms of what we've seen in the past with ones such as the Humble Indie Bundle, but it's definitly still a very good model. And, the fixed price at the end does mean that if it did turn into a bidding war, the best stuff wouldn't be out of reach for everyone. I'll admit to the Divinity II 10% one being sketchy, but this model is a clear improvement.
I will agree with improvement. they are getting better, and I will give them that, but I will probably still come out and say something if they go back the other way, but they are trying.
 

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If there's Descent in that bundle, I'll probably buy it, given I liked the game but never owned it myself.

I just hope it works in DOSBox.
 

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If there's Descent in that bundle, I'll probably buy it, given I liked the game but never owned it myself.

I just hope it works in DOSBox.
gog.com takes care of compatibility for you. ie. The game comes with its own DOSBox and configuration.

OT: I WISH I HAD THE MONEEEEEES. D:

Oh and for the record:

PAY WHAT YOU WANT SALE: A sale in which (a) product(s) can be purchased for any price in a range greater than one.

Example: A product can be purchased for $5 or $8 dollars, whichever the customer prefers. There are multiple payment amounts available, so it is a "Pay What You Want" sale.

So yes, people claiming that it's not really "pay what you want" horribly misunderstand what "pay what you want" means. Also, many of them should be slapped.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
gardian06 said:
why is it
Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy ALL the Interplay games for a penny?
I was kinda sad it wouldn't let me just pay a little bit for Fallout 2, then I looked at the actual price and realized I'll probably end up buying it anyway.
 

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gardian06 said:
here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
They didn't show us a picture of a Rolls Royce. They gave us an pictureless poster saying "PAY WHAT YOU WANT FOR A CAR!"

And the fact that they actually meant ALL the games if you exceed a certain point is like finding out you can get a dirt-cheap Rolls Royce while you're there. I mean, who expects to find a Rolls Royce at a pay-what-you-want car sale?

The same people who actually expected to be able to buy ALL the interplay games for one cent from a poster saying "Introducing Pay What You Want for Classic Interplay Games", apparently.
 

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The only game there that I want and don't have on disc is Sacrifice and it's on the 3rd tier. Too bad.
Still, I'm happy to see more "pay what you want" deals.
 

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for all those bitching about this you can pay 99 cents and get up to 8 games if you are that big of a cheapskate. so it its pay what you want

I purchased the last bundle from them. great value. one thing about GOG.com is I dont mind tossing a bit more than the minimum to get the bundle just to support them
The point I was complaining about is that more of the choice titles are in the $35 option and "Pay Above Average" Option. As I stated before, Gamersgate had a much more open format in terms of game choice in their IndieFort #3 bundle. Why should people have to pay $35 to have access to Shogo and Fallout? Why not let the gamers pick which 8, games instead of locking them in with VR Soccer. No one's going to want that game. That's my only beef, the lack of choice when its been present before.
 

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Where are the Star Trek games? I didn't see them on the list. It would be a pity if they didn't include them, they were the only reason I would have bought the bundle.
 

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lacktheknack said:
gardian06 said:
here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
They didn't show us a picture of a Rolls Royce. They gave us an pictureless poster saying "PAY WHAT YOU WANT FOR A CAR!"

And the fact that they actually meant ALL the games if you exceed a certain point is like finding out you can get a dirt-cheap Rolls Royce while you're there. I mean, who expects to find a Rolls Royce at a pay-what-you-want car sale?

The same people who actually expected to be able to buy ALL the interplay games for one cent from a poster saying "Introducing Pay What You Want for Classic Interplay Games", apparently.
never said I wanted to pay a penny, never said I was angry that GoG a mostly reputable company was holding a "sale" on a collection of games from a given publisher, and making any statement that I "wanted to buy multiple games for a penny" is outlandish, and just speculative. what I am angry at is that they are saying here is "pay-what-you-want" a system that is synonymous with charity, funding developers directly, and being able to for the most part name your exact price point for a bundle (i.e. humble bundle), and then saying "you can pay what you want. you know, what we got you here by promising, but would you rather pay-what-we-tell-you, and get these?" and I understand the anger of people seeing the words pay-what-you-want, and thinking they get everything for a small price. I am not one of them I understand there is typically something to deal with the median price in most of these pay-what-you-want system as an incentive, but the added incentive is to help fund developers or charity, and not just the company hosting it. though they will rarely if ever say the words pay-what-you-want and then give a static arbitrary number that is not pay-what-you-want that is a sale, and by using these words it sets up an expectation (bait), and then replaces it with a something else (switch)

and your statements about my example either point to a misunderstanding of it, or inability to recognize a bait, and switch situation (even when it is only partial), and I even said in the example that it was grotesquely improbably.
 

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I would buy the full package. But nah, it has Earthworm Jim in it. And I will be in hell before giving a single cent to Doug TenNapel
 

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gardian06 said:
lacktheknack said:
gardian06 said:
here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
They didn't show us a picture of a Rolls Royce. They gave us an pictureless poster saying "PAY WHAT YOU WANT FOR A CAR!"

And the fact that they actually meant ALL the games if you exceed a certain point is like finding out you can get a dirt-cheap Rolls Royce while you're there. I mean, who expects to find a Rolls Royce at a pay-what-you-want car sale?

The same people who actually expected to be able to buy ALL the interplay games for one cent from a poster saying "Introducing Pay What You Want for Classic Interplay Games", apparently.
never said I wanted to pay a penny, never said I was angry that GoG a mostly reputable company was holding a "sale" on a collection of games from a given publisher, and making any statement that I "wanted to buy multiple games for a penny" is outlandish, and just speculative. what I am angry at is that they are saying here is "pay-what-you-want" a system that is synonymous with charity, funding developers directly, and being able to for the most part name your exact price point for a bundle (i.e. humble bundle), and then saying "you can pay what you want. you know, what we got you here by promising, but would you rather pay-what-we-tell-you, and get these?" and I understand the anger of people seeing the words pay-what-you-want, and thinking they get everything for a small price. I am not one of them I understand there is typically something to deal with the median price in most of these pay-what-you-want system as an incentive, but the added incentive is to help fund developers or charity, and not just the company hosting it. though they will rarely if ever say the words pay-what-you-want and then give a static arbitrary number that is not pay-what-you-want that is a sale, and by using these words it sets up an expectation (bait), and then replaces it with a something else (switch)

and your statements about my example either point to a misunderstanding of it, or inability to recognize a bait, and switch situation (even when it is only partial), and I even said in the example that it was grotesquely improbably.
I recognize bait-and-switch situations.

I also know that the bait was "pay what you want for Interplay games".

Which is exactly what you get. You GET the bait. They didn't switch anything.

And if you pass a certain amount of money, you get MORE Interplay games.

That's not bait-and-switch. That's generosity.