I never said that my complaint with the amount they were charging my complaint is with the actual bait and switch that is going on. to avoid complications, and miss-understanding the definition of a bait and switch is promising one thing (in this case a pay-what-you-want bundle which most gamers will recognize from humble bundle), and then replacing said promised thing with either a different item, or a different offer partially or entirely (this case creating an artificial price-point that is over and above the standard) granted yes the price is still "reasonable" though my major complaint is not with the service, or the company, it is with their inability to call this "sale" (which is what it is) a sale, and instead use a term that is synonymous with charity, funding developers, and actual pure choice in price point. instead of saying the word sale.Andy Chalk said:Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy ALL the Interplay games for a penny?gardian06 said:why is it
granted yes what a said was over the top, and was thought in a sarcastic context, but the principle which I explain above is my reasoningFr said:anc[is]Did you honestly just compare a game bundle to rape? That goes straight past offensive and just ends up being hilarious. Thank you, I needed a good laugh today.gardian06 said:why is it that whenever GoG says the words pay-what-you-want I just know they are going to make artificial price points? oh yeah because this happened http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120055-GOG-com-Introduces-Pay-What-You-Want-Divinity-Bundle meaning that they are still trying to understand what pay-what-you-want means. the say way a rapist tries to understand what consent means.
actually my complaint was similar, but actually different in the previous article I complaining that a company that is typically known for doing good business, and making older games available to the public took it upon themselves to artificially create a bidding war pitting human tenancy to one-up each other in an attempt to win to simply increase profit. by offering a higher payout to those who spend within the top 10% which basically says that "hey this thing that you want here it is, and now you have to pay double, and then triple, etc... in order to obtain it" which means that they are more concerned with profits then actually providing that content.klaynexas3 said:As a writer for the site, I assume you know most of the rules around here. Might I ask, is it possible to report someone for just saying stupid stuff? Because I think that gardian is a little over due for it. He complained about the same thing when gog did this model for the Divinity games a week or so back.Andy Chalk said:Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy ALL the Interplay games for a penny?gardian06 said:why is it
Two off the top of my head that I feel everyone should play are Freespace 2 and MDK 2.lotr rocks 0 said:I've only ever heard of fallout 1 and 2 from that list... What other notable games are there in that list, and what genres? I dont want to pay $35 for just fallout 1 and 2 and I know nothing about the other games here...
Had they said it was for the Rollzroys, yes, I would, since there was obviously foul play there. Here, it just says you can buy Interplay games for any price you want. It doesn't say you get them all and it doesn't say you get some of their best stuff, it just says you can pay whatever for some games by them. While the fixed price on the 32 games does take away from the pay what you want a bit, it's still a good deal and I can't say I can complain about it. Eight games on gog can cost mostly at a minimum for regular price of $40.00, and you're allowed to get it for less than $10. Pay a little more than $10(at this point anyway, it might change soon), and then you get $100.00 of video games. Pay $35.00 and you have $160.00 worth. It's not a bad deal, and not one worth complaining about. I'll admit it isn't the best pay what you want model in terms of what we've seen in the past with ones such as the Humble Indie Bundle, but it's definitly still a very good model. And, the fixed price at the end does mean that if it did turn into a bidding war, the best stuff wouldn't be out of reach for everyone. I'll admit to the Divinity II 10% one being sketchy, but this model is a clear improvement.gardian06 said:actually my complaint was similar, but actually different in the previous article I complaining that a company that is typically known for doing good business, and making older games available to the public took it upon themselves to artificially create a bidding war pitting human tenancy to one-up each other in an attempt to win to simply increase profit. by offering a higher payout to those who spend within the top 10% which basically says that "hey this thing that you want here it is, and now you have to pay double, and then triple, etc... in order to obtain it" which means that they are more concerned with profits then actually providing that content.klaynexas3 said:As a writer for the site, I assume you know most of the rules around here. Might I ask, is it possible to report someone for just saying stupid stuff? Because I think that gardian is a little over due for it. He complained about the same thing when gog did this model for the Divinity games a week or so back.Andy Chalk said:Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy ALL the Interplay games for a penny?gardian06 said:why is it
here I am complaining about the realistic bait and switch that is going on. don't think this is a bait and switch "look it up" the only reason you couldn't call that completely is because there is aspect of what was used of the "bait" present, but it does not give purpose to what is actually being asked.
here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
I will agree with improvement. they are getting better, and I will give them that, but I will probably still come out and say something if they go back the other way, but they are trying.klaynexas3 said:Had they said it was for the Rollzroys, yes, I would, since there was obviously foul play there. Here, it just says you can buy Interplay games for any price you want. It doesn't say you get them all and it doesn't say you get some of their best stuff, it just says you can pay whatever for some games by them. While the fixed price on the 32 games does take away from the pay what you want a bit, it's still a good deal and I can't say I can complain about it. Eight games on gog can cost mostly at a minimum for regular price of $40.00, and you're allowed to get it for less than $10. Pay a little more than $10(at this point anyway, it might change soon), and then you get $100.00 of video games. Pay $35.00 and you have $160.00 worth. It's not a bad deal, and not one worth complaining about. I'll admit it isn't the best pay what you want model in terms of what we've seen in the past with ones such as the Humble Indie Bundle, but it's definitly still a very good model. And, the fixed price at the end does mean that if it did turn into a bidding war, the best stuff wouldn't be out of reach for everyone. I'll admit to the Divinity II 10% one being sketchy, but this model is a clear improvement.gardian06 said:actually my complaint was similar, but actually different in the previous article I complaining that a company that is typically known for doing good business, and making older games available to the public took it upon themselves to artificially create a bidding war pitting human tenancy to one-up each other in an attempt to win to simply increase profit. by offering a higher payout to those who spend within the top 10% which basically says that "hey this thing that you want here it is, and now you have to pay double, and then triple, etc... in order to obtain it" which means that they are more concerned with profits then actually providing that content.klaynexas3 said:As a writer for the site, I assume you know most of the rules around here. Might I ask, is it possible to report someone for just saying stupid stuff? Because I think that gardian is a little over due for it. He complained about the same thing when gog did this model for the Divinity games a week or so back.Andy Chalk said:Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy ALL the Interplay games for a penny?gardian06 said:why is it
here I am complaining about the realistic bait and switch that is going on. don't think this is a bait and switch "look it up" the only reason you couldn't call that completely is because there is aspect of what was used of the "bait" present, but it does not give purpose to what is actually being asked.
here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
gog.com takes care of compatibility for you. ie. The game comes with its own DOSBox and configuration.Roxor said:If there's Descent in that bundle, I'll probably buy it, given I liked the game but never owned it myself.
I just hope it works in DOSBox.
I was kinda sad it wouldn't let me just pay a little bit for Fallout 2, then I looked at the actual price and realized I'll probably end up buying it anyway.Andy Chalk said:Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy ALL the Interplay games for a penny?gardian06 said:why is it
They didn't show us a picture of a Rolls Royce. They gave us an pictureless poster saying "PAY WHAT YOU WANT FOR A CAR!"gardian06 said:here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
The point I was complaining about is that more of the choice titles are in the $35 option and "Pay Above Average" Option. As I stated before, Gamersgate had a much more open format in terms of game choice in their IndieFort #3 bundle. Why should people have to pay $35 to have access to Shogo and Fallout? Why not let the gamers pick which 8, games instead of locking them in with VR Soccer. No one's going to want that game. That's my only beef, the lack of choice when its been present before.nikki191 said:for all those bitching about this you can pay 99 cents and get up to 8 games if you are that big of a cheapskate. so it its pay what you want
I purchased the last bundle from them. great value. one thing about GOG.com is I dont mind tossing a bit more than the minimum to get the bundle just to support them
never said I wanted to pay a penny, never said I was angry that GoG a mostly reputable company was holding a "sale" on a collection of games from a given publisher, and making any statement that I "wanted to buy multiple games for a penny" is outlandish, and just speculative. what I am angry at is that they are saying here is "pay-what-you-want" a system that is synonymous with charity, funding developers directly, and being able to for the most part name your exact price point for a bundle (i.e. humble bundle), and then saying "you can pay what you want. you know, what we got you here by promising, but would you rather pay-what-we-tell-you, and get these?" and I understand the anger of people seeing the words pay-what-you-want, and thinking they get everything for a small price. I am not one of them I understand there is typically something to deal with the median price in most of these pay-what-you-want system as an incentive, but the added incentive is to help fund developers or charity, and not just the company hosting it. though they will rarely if ever say the words pay-what-you-want and then give a static arbitrary number that is not pay-what-you-want that is a sale, and by using these words it sets up an expectation (bait), and then replaces it with a something else (switch)lacktheknack said:They didn't show us a picture of a Rolls Royce. They gave us an pictureless poster saying "PAY WHAT YOU WANT FOR A CAR!"gardian06 said:here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
And the fact that they actually meant ALL the games if you exceed a certain point is like finding out you can get a dirt-cheap Rolls Royce while you're there. I mean, who expects to find a Rolls Royce at a pay-what-you-want car sale?
The same people who actually expected to be able to buy ALL the interplay games for one cent from a poster saying "Introducing Pay What You Want for Classic Interplay Games", apparently.
I recognize bait-and-switch situations.gardian06 said:never said I wanted to pay a penny, never said I was angry that GoG a mostly reputable company was holding a "sale" on a collection of games from a given publisher, and making any statement that I "wanted to buy multiple games for a penny" is outlandish, and just speculative. what I am angry at is that they are saying here is "pay-what-you-want" a system that is synonymous with charity, funding developers directly, and being able to for the most part name your exact price point for a bundle (i.e. humble bundle), and then saying "you can pay what you want. you know, what we got you here by promising, but would you rather pay-what-we-tell-you, and get these?" and I understand the anger of people seeing the words pay-what-you-want, and thinking they get everything for a small price. I am not one of them I understand there is typically something to deal with the median price in most of these pay-what-you-want system as an incentive, but the added incentive is to help fund developers or charity, and not just the company hosting it. though they will rarely if ever say the words pay-what-you-want and then give a static arbitrary number that is not pay-what-you-want that is a sale, and by using these words it sets up an expectation (bait), and then replaces it with a something else (switch)lacktheknack said:They didn't show us a picture of a Rolls Royce. They gave us an pictureless poster saying "PAY WHAT YOU WANT FOR A CAR!"gardian06 said:here's an example you go see "pay-what-you-want for a car" and they show a picture of a Rollzroys then you go, and you find out that the pay-what-you-want is for a VW Bug (granted this will probably never happen, but it is context), and you still have to pay the $35,000+ for the Rollzroys you will feel slightly cheated. wouldn't you?
And the fact that they actually meant ALL the games if you exceed a certain point is like finding out you can get a dirt-cheap Rolls Royce while you're there. I mean, who expects to find a Rolls Royce at a pay-what-you-want car sale?
The same people who actually expected to be able to buy ALL the interplay games for one cent from a poster saying "Introducing Pay What You Want for Classic Interplay Games", apparently.
and your statements about my example either point to a misunderstanding of it, or inability to recognize a bait, and switch situation (even when it is only partial), and I even said in the example that it was grotesquely improbably.