Arsen said:Robb Stark.
Became a dick to everyone the second he became king, murdered Lord Karstark, and trusted the people who were obviously going to betray him...what happened to him was not sad.
TeletubbiesGolfGun said:hah without fail, the first response was nathan drake.Terminate421 said:Nathan Drake.
A super model shouldn't be able to eradicate every race on the planet by only using an AK47 and chest high walls and spouting lines that make my ears bleed as to how bad they are.
I won the thread.
you think those lines are 'bad'?
how many games have you played..? those are nothing compared to 90% of games from the past 2 decades...
OT: any pokemon trainer ever, you enslave pokemon that are fully functional and self aware beings that can give consent, yet you make them battle to do your bidding and you make them take all the hits nonchalantly to win money and pulverize other slaves.
Indy, hold someone at knifepoint? Bullshit. Go watch that movie again. He holds Willie Scott at FORKpoint, thank you very much!NinjaDeathSlap said:Indiana Jones.
How much of a douche he is is usually eclipsed by the fact that the guys on the other side are, well, Nazi's, but there are moments where it is painfully visible. The opening of Temple of Doom, where he is holding an innocent bystander hostage at knife point to save his own skin within the first 5 minutes, springs to mind.
Again - he's not a "good" character. You might as well list the dude from Dungeon Keeper if you're gonna talk about Kain or Kratos.Trig0n said:Kain from the Legacy of Kain series. At the start of Soul Reaver he rips off Raziel's wings and throws him down into an abyss where he burns for an inconceivable amount of time. Just because he grew wings first.
Sure there are some thinly justifiable spoiler filled reasons for it if you feel like playing through every game and getting punched in the face with time paradoxes until your teeth start to taste like the future.
Still. The dude's kind of a dick.
Actually, that's kinda considered to be one of the main points of the show. That humans cause pain to eachother sometimes and life is hard sometimes but that life is still worth living.Legion said:- Shinji Ikari and Asuka Langley Soryu from Neon Genesis Evangelion. Both deserve a certain level of sympathy for what's happened in their lived, but both make it incredibly difficult to feel it through their behaviour. Admittedly neither of them are quite as bad in the remakes they are doing.
This, this, oh dear God in Heaven this.senordesol said:Korra from The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra.
Seriously: watch that first season. She spends half of it playing sports while the city goes to shit, never bothers to complete her training, and even though she spends the whole show doing basically nothing; everything works out for her in the end.
Arsen said:Robb Stark.
Became a dick to everyone the second he became king, murdered Lord Karstark, and trusted the people who were obviously going to betray him...what happened to him was not sad.
I understand the point of the show, and I understand the characters. I do not need them explained to me.Flamezdudes said:Actually, that's kinda considered to be one of the main points of the show. That humans cause pain to eachother sometimes and life is hard sometimes but that life is still worth living.Legion said:- Shinji Ikari and Asuka Langley Soryu from Neon Genesis Evangelion. Both deserve a certain level of sympathy for what's happened in their lived, but both make it incredibly difficult to feel it through their behaviour. Admittedly neither of them are quite as bad in the remakes they are doing.
Shinji was never an arsehole, he was just incredibly stressed, depressed and lonely. He never really wants to hurt others, it just happens and then he gets hurt.
Asuka on the other hand does have a bitchy attitude but its just a front because she's the personification of narcissism, she wants to be praised and be considered worth something and its how she deals with her issues, so she pushes people away.
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you if I did.Legion said:I understand the point of the show, and I understand the characters. I do not need them explained to me.Flamezdudes said:Actually, that's kinda considered to be one of the main points of the show. That humans cause pain to eachother sometimes and life is hard sometimes but that life is still worth living.Legion said:- Shinji Ikari and Asuka Langley Soryu from Neon Genesis Evangelion. Both deserve a certain level of sympathy for what's happened in their lived, but both make it incredibly difficult to feel it through their behaviour. Admittedly neither of them are quite as bad in the remakes they are doing.
Shinji was never an arsehole, he was just incredibly stressed, depressed and lonely. He never really wants to hurt others, it just happens and then he gets hurt.
Asuka on the other hand does have a bitchy attitude but its just a front because she's the personification of narcissism, she wants to be praised and be considered worth something and its how she deals with her issues, so she pushes people away.
I am not sure why you assumed I didn't. Characters having reasons to be an arsehole doesn't make them any less so.
I always did find it weird and funny how the Sniper talks about how you have to be polite while at the same time goes around throwing his urine at people and calling them names.Alssadar said:And also, the entire cast of TF2. Some of them are thoughtful individuals, though once you get into revenge/domination taunts, they get quite nasty for such colorful people.
^Can be qualified as semi-heroes due to MvM, as they fight to save Mann Co.
Well, he actually DIDN'T say "Yeah ok, I promise I won't hurt you" The thug was dumb enough to tell him before Batman promised anything.Doclector said:Also, he's a goddamn Liar. Think about it next time you interrogate someone for Riddler secrets.
"I can hurt you more than you can ever imagine"
"Okay! I'll tell you everything I know, just don't hurt me"
"You've been so educational"
*MASSIVE BAT-FIST TO SIDE OF SKULL*
I'd love it if occasionally, someone said "Y'know what? No. I've seen what you did to the other guys, I'll tell you what I know and then you'll just give me brain damage anyway. Gimme some food, at least."
So, what characters aren't as goody-goody as they're made out to be?
To be honest I don't think they intended him to be, and I don't think that's how the character was supposed to appear, I just felt that the way they chose to portray him made him seem more like one than he was supposed to. The same with Asuka really.Flamezdudes said:Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you if I did.Legion said:I understand the point of the show, and I understand the characters. I do not need them explained to me.Flamezdudes said:Actually, that's kinda considered to be one of the main points of the show. That humans cause pain to eachother sometimes and life is hard sometimes but that life is still worth living.Legion said:- Shinji Ikari and Asuka Langley Soryu from Neon Genesis Evangelion. Both deserve a certain level of sympathy for what's happened in their lived, but both make it incredibly difficult to feel it through their behaviour. Admittedly neither of them are quite as bad in the remakes they are doing.
Shinji was never an arsehole, he was just incredibly stressed, depressed and lonely. He never really wants to hurt others, it just happens and then he gets hurt.
Asuka on the other hand does have a bitchy attitude but its just a front because she's the personification of narcissism, she wants to be praised and be considered worth something and its how she deals with her issues, so she pushes people away.
I am not sure why you assumed I didn't. Characters having reasons to be an arsehole doesn't make them any less so.
And I guess you're right, it just makes it a lot easier to sympathise with them (for me at least). I still say that Shinji isn't an arsehole though.
You sound just like my friend, you know. She despises Paladins.recruit00 said:Every paladin ever in D&D. Seriously, those guys are assholes.