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I really hope he gets recalled because his handling of covid has been horrendous.
 

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Good, hopefully, an actual progressive wins, and not MAGA supporter Caitlyn Jenner.

Also Newsom is an elitist useless shill, who couldn't even build a high speed train in California.
 
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A Democrat governor in California is being recalled over their (perceived) poor handling of a crisis and one of the Republican candidates is an athlete with no real political experience.

The more things have changed, the more they have stayed the same.
 

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At least... at least it isn't a pro wrestler this time?
I think Jenner would make the perfect pro wrestler. They have amazing potential to be a heel: no matter where you fall on the political spectrum, I'm sure you'll find something to dislike.
 

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Governor Newsom has not handled COVID well at all. That said, I can think of about 20 governors who deserve to be recalled by that criteria, so...eh.
 
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Whatever, just wash your hands.
How did he mishandle covid? I'm in TX so I'm used to the state government being incompetent and it taking cities and HEB to really get shit done.
 

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How did he mishandle covid? I'm in TX so I'm used to the state government being incompetent and it taking cities and HEB to really get shit done.
Put in place non-sense restrictions that hurt small businesses while allowing big business to operate like normal thus both hurting the economy and not meaningfully curbing the spread.

Issued restrictions on how many people could gather while completely ignoring those restrictions for himself and his family and throwing lavish parties.

You know, the same thing all the other politicians did.

We just already don't like him so it was easy enough to get the signatures needed for a recall.
 

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Well, on the most basic statistics of deaths per head population, California ranks 30th out of the 50 US states, and is over 10% below the national average. This is not an obvious indication of abysmal handling of the pandemic. The economy may have taken a relatively big hit, but the economic damage can't be easily compared because differences in state economies may cause different amounts of disruption to similar policies, and we'd really want to see what the recovery was like before we judged anyway.

My general take is that it's political bullshit: it's relatively easy for a small number of electors to force a recall for partisanship rather than competence.
 

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Well, on the most basic statistics of deaths per head population, California ranks 30th out of the 50 US states, and is over 10% below the national average. This is not an obvious indication of abysmal handling of the pandemic. The economy may have taken a relatively big hit, but the economic damage can't be easily compared because differences in state economies may cause different amounts of disruption to similar policies, and we'd really want to see what the recovery was like before we judged anyway.

My general take is that it's political bullshit: it's relatively easy for a small number of electors to force a recall for partisanship rather than competence.
Calli is still on a high lockdown even now though. Sure they've had less cases than others but I think the point is that they traded off fewer cases for other downsides that will have an impact just as bad or worse than if they had opened up but will be felt later.
 

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Good, hopefully, an actual progressive wins, and not MAGA supporter Caitlyn Jenner.

Also Newsom is an elitist useless shill, who couldn't even build a high speed train in California.
You know she's going to be Governor and President some day. She's too egotistical and vain to not run, and this country isn't smart enough to stop her.
 

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At least... at least it isn't a pro wrestler this time?
Caitlyn once appeared in an episode of the Love Boat where she played a wrestler and fought Hulk Hogan played by himself. American politics is never too far removed from the WWE. Have you guys had 4 or 5 Hall of famers hold political office?
 
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Caitlyn once appeared in an episode of the Love Boat where she played a wrestler and fought Hulk Hogan played by himself. American politics is never too far removed from the WWE. Have you guys had 4 or 5 Hall of famers hold political office?
Abraham Lincoln is in the wrestling hall of fame with a 299-1 record.
 

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Caitlyn once appeared in an episode of the Love Boat where she played a wrestler and fought Hulk Hogan played by himself. American politics is never too far removed from the WWE. Have you guys had 4 or 5 Hall of famers hold political office?
For some reason I just pictured Vince McMahon in the Situation room and the Oval Office and I felt my asshole violently contract. Is that a normal reaction?
 

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Calli is still on a high lockdown even now though. Sure they've had less cases than others but I think the point is that they traded off fewer cases for other downsides that will have an impact just as bad or worse than if they had opened up but will be felt later.
Mm.

I think this idea of "other downsides" is a bit of a myth. The debate has long been framed as "death versus economy" but I'm not sure that's true. Death cans the economy anyway - not necessarily through worker death but because of how people will respond. You can leave your restaurant open, but there's a plague loose. People won't go to it enough to keep it open anyway. And the more that die, if the hospitals stop being able to take in patients, the more afraid and unhappy people will get and that's going to have knock-on effects, too.

The biggest problems are probably going to be inadequate welfare support for the losers, and I suspect education of children will have taken quite a hit too, which will have to be caught up over the coming years.

The reason that people perhaps need to wait before they get really upset is that there will be a bounceback when the economy reopens, because many people are sitting on piles of unspent lockdown cash and they are going to go on a splurge. In two years, there's a fair chance we'll see economies are pretty much where they would have been without lockdown.
 
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Agema

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For some reason I just pictured Vince McMahon in the Situation room and the Oval Office and I felt my asshole violently contract. Is that a normal reaction?
Mild, I think.