Greedo's Last Shot

[jurnag12]

Probably not who it's supposed to be, but why is Skwisgaar Skwigelf teaching people to shoot first?

 

[scorptatious]

When I was little, I've heard people talk about this scene a lot and I never really got what the big deal is.

Of course, thinking about it now, it does seem kinda silly that Greedo would miss at point blank range.

 

[Mike Fang]

Least discussed? The whole "who shot first" thing is one of the most hotly debated...actually you can't really call it a debate, since 9 out of 10 Star Wars fans all agree Han shot first. But it's one of the most contentious of all the changes Lucas made to the original trilogy.

That said, I -suppose- it could be argued it's almost always discussed from the angle of "would Han have shot first or not" and rarely "why would Greedo have missed?"

 

[Winnosh]

Everyone wanna know the dumbest part of Greedo Shooting first. In the original it wasn't Han shot first, it was Han shot only. The reason for this is that Greedo was NEVER gonna shoot Han it wouldn't make sense for him to do so. Greedo had a gun on Han so that he could take him captive back to Jabba. Han's bounty was for him to be brought in alive. Greedo was only going to shoot if Han tried something, and he didn't see the gun that he was pulling. That Was The Point!!!


Remember BobaFett's line to Vader.
" He's no good to me dead. "

If Greedo had shot first and killed Han then there would have been no reward.

 

[el_kabong]

Least discussed? The whole "who shot first" thing is one of the most hotly debated...actually you can't really call it a debate, since 9 out of 10 Star Wars fans all agree Han shot first. But it's one of the most contentious of all the changes Lucas made to the original trilogy.

That said, I -suppose- it could be argued it's almost always discussed from the angle of "would Han have shot first or not" and rarely "why would Greedo have missed?"

Yeah. This was my feeling exactly. It's one of the biggest beefs I have with the changes. However, the idea of what that means about Greedo is actually a fresh perspective for me.

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

I don't believe I can think of a single more useless book than "How to shoot like a Storm Trooper."

"The Jedi Council's Advice for Discovering Evil Government Conspiracies!"

"Maintaining a Loving Happy Family, By Anakin Skywalker"

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

I never understood how "shooting first" makes Han so ruthless as to "require" Lucas to revise the whole thing to make him look like a good guy. Greedo basically walks up and says "I'm going to kill you and turn you in for money Solo" and then Han shoots him... seriously... it's not THAT amoral...

Shooting anyone is still pretty ruthless, especially considering Greedo hadn't actually done anything yet except threaten. If you went around shooting every person who threatened you, you would be considered a bit of a dick.

To be fair, Greedo kinda had a blaster pointed right at Han's head. At that point we've gone a bit beyond just threatening I'd think.

 

[tangoprime]

Probably not who it's supposed to be, but why is Skwisgaar Skwigelf teaching people to shoot first?

Went back and looked at comic then lol'ed. That's pretty awesome. I do believe that it's supposed to be Dog the Bounter Hunter though. But now I have a bunch of lines of Skwisgaar saying Dog the Bounty Hunter lines in my head, haha. "Donts makes me come and hunts you down, bro."

Edit: Now imagining a Dethklok cover of the Dog the Bounty Hunter theme... this is going to be stuck in there for a while.

 

[Darth_Payn]

Lucas' balls are protected by a shield made of pure money.

To quote Lucas paraphrase Yahtzee, "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of all my MONEY!!!"

 

[JimHawking]

Am I the only one who thinks the guy on the magazine looks like Skwisgaar Skwigelf?

 

[loc978]

Probably not who it's supposed to be, but why is Skwisgaar Skwigelf teaching people to shoot first?

Am I the only one who thinks the guy on the magazine looks like Skwisgaar Skwigelf?

... not skinny enough, but there's a resemblance. Pretty sure it's supposed to be

Spoiler: Dog

Spoiler: errr... I mean this Dog

...the bounty hunter. Honestly, I never would have heard of him if not for South Park and Reno 911

 

[tippy2k2]

Everyone wanna know the dumbest part of Greedo Shooting first. In the original it wasn't Han shot first, it was Han shot only. The reason for this is that Greedo was NEVER gonna shoot Han it wouldn't make sense for him to do so. Greedo had a gun on Han so that he could take him captive back to Jabba. Han's bounty was for him to be brought in alive. Greedo was only going to shoot if Han tried something, and he didn't see the gun that he was pulling. That Was The Point!!!


Remember BobaFett's line to Vader.
" He's no good to me dead. "

If Greedo had shot first and killed Han then there would have been no reward.

*WARNING: STAR WARS NIT-PICKING NERD INCOMING!

Now I could be wrong on this (going off of memory here) but Greedo wasn't going on the orders of Vader; he was going on the orders of the fat slug. I didn't think Jabba cared about dead or alive. Vader wanted him alive to test his human Popsicle maker (though why he couldn't just shove a storm trooper in there is beyond me); Jabba didn't care either way (though he'd prefer alive I would guess).

Tippy2k2's brain broke there. Nothing to see here...

 

[Winnosh]

Everyone wanna know the dumbest part of Greedo Shooting first. In the original it wasn't Han shot first, it was Han shot only. The reason for this is that Greedo was NEVER gonna shoot Han it wouldn't make sense for him to do so. Greedo had a gun on Han so that he could take him captive back to Jabba. Han's bounty was for him to be brought in alive. Greedo was only going to shoot if Han tried something, and he didn't see the gun that he was pulling. That Was The Point!!!


Remember BobaFett's line to Vader.
" He's no good to me dead. "

If Greedo had shot first and killed Han then there would have been no reward.

*WARNING: STAR WARS NIT-PICKING NERD INCOMING!

Now I could be wrong on this (going off of memory here) but Greedo wasn't going on the orders of Vader; he was going on the orders of the fat slug. I didn't think Jabba cared about dead or alive. Vader wanted him alive to test his human Popsicle maker (though why he couldn't just shove a storm trooper in there is beyond me); Jabba didn't care either way (though he'd prefer alive I would guess).

You appear to have misread the post. Of course Greedo wasn't working for Vader, he was working for Jaba same as Boba Fett. Jaba was the one who put the bounty on Han Solo. and the bounty was for them to bring Han in alive so that Jaba could take care of him personally. Which is WHY Boba Fett was so adamant of Han not getting killed in Vader's little trap. He brings it up more than once in Bespin.

 

[tippy2k2]

snip

Oh yeah....

Yup. You're right

Bobba did keep saying he needed Han alive. For some reason, I had it in my mind that it was on Vader's orders but that's wrong.

 

[Winnosh]

snip

Oh yeah....

Yup. You're right

Bobba did keep saying he needed Han alive. For some reason, I had it in my mind that it was on Vader's orders but that's wrong.

It's Boba Fett reminding Vader that if Han dies, he doesn't get paid.

 

[Monster_user]

I could have sworn that Fett mentioned "He's worth more to me alive.", at some point.

Also, Greedo may have just fired a warning shot, to try and rattle Solo. Although, that would mean that it did rattle Solo. Which would be further detremental to Solo's character. So, Greedo's worse than a Stormtrooper.


I think the main reason was because George Lucas thought Star Wars was a comedy, and so all bad guys needed to have terrible aim.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

I love how happy the stormtrooper looks skipping through the destruction.

 

[Winnosh]

I could have sworn that Fett mentioned "He's worth more to me alive.", at some point.

Also, Greedo may have just fired a warning shot, to try and rattle Solo. Although, that would mean that it did rattle Solo. Which would be further detremental to Solo's character. So, Greedo's worse than a Stormtrooper.


I think the main reason was because George Lucas thought Star Wars was a comedy, and so all bad guys needed to have terrible aim.

That would hold water if the Stormtroops actually did have bad aim and the movies didn't show them utterly destroying any opponents that they came across.

 

[mysecondlife]

Greedo lives and becomes a Jedi? Wow.

Also.

Greedo's Critical Miss.

 

[Revolutionary]

The "How to shoot like a stormtrooper" mag made my day.