Halo 6 Already In the Works, 343 Industries Says

Thyunda

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camazotz said:
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ecoho said:
I love how everyone assumes this will be bad, seriously stop this shit. the new one releases in a month if its horrible feel free to ***** and complain, until then stop freaking out about a game that you know nothing about.
There is nothing more presumptive and irritating than a game released with a planned sequel. Worse, with a written sequel. What that means is they don't care whether you like Guardians or not. Don't like the new direction? Whether it turns out massively unpopular or not, it's here to stay. The sixth game is being written on the same foundation as the fourth, not the fifth, which means it's gonna be nothing but stagnation. How can you write a game for a constantly changing audience if you're using the same groundwork for three titles?

That's why people are bitching. It's idiotic and it makes assumptions. Too Human was planned as the start of a trilogy.

Look how well that went.
There's an enormous number of assumptions going on here, but I suspect you really aren't in the middle-ground realm of someone who could be swayed by logic to consider that maybe your discontent is derived from something other than a logical assessment of 343 Studios' processes, or any other equivalent studio that does the same (Bethesda, Bungie, Actiblizzard, you name it) in which preparing the next game is an onerous multi-year task that does require a foundation on which to hang the design and implementation of the next title.

And I love the idea of holding up Too Human as a point of comparison to the Halo franchise. That's like holding up Asheron's Call 2 to WoW and suggesting that any second now Blizzard is going to screw up in the same manner.

Do you know what else is presumptive? Quoting the first post in a discussion and then acting like your arguments haven't already been addressed.
Let's look at another series that has annual releases and plans whole series rather than individual games. It's Assassin's Creed, infamous for changing the gameplay once in five games and then sticking to it for a few more. That's mechanic stagnation. The story's even less fluid. What's the last AC game that actually got you engrossed in the story?

I mean, Syndicate looks pretty sound, so, what's that, then the next stage after The Running Around Stabbing People, and The Boat Ones? AC gets tons of criticism for being stagnant yearly releases. FIFA only really switches up its formula once in five games, too.

Tell me which of Bethesda's games you're referring to. There were years between Elder Scrolls games and Fallout went to a different team of developers between 3 and New Vegas.
If it's a multi-year task, leave multi-years between releases. Otherwise you're either relying totally on a brand name or gambling with the first game's success.
 

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Thyunda said:
ecoho said:
I love how everyone assumes this will be bad, seriously stop this shit. the new one releases in a month if its horrible feel free to ***** and complain, until then stop freaking out about a game that you know nothing about.
There is nothing more presumptive and irritating than a game released with a planned sequel. Worse, with a written sequel. What that means is they don't care whether you like Guardians or not. Don't like the new direction? Whether it turns out massively unpopular or not, it's here to stay. The sixth game is being written on the same foundation as the fourth, not the fifth, which means it's gonna be nothing but stagnation. How can you write a game for a constantly changing audience if you're using the same groundwork for three titles?

That's why people are bitching. It's idiotic and it makes assumptions. Too Human was planned as the start of a trilogy.

Look how well that went.
Mass Effect was written as a trilogy. The ending to ME3 was rewritten when the original was leaked. Look how well that went.
 

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B5Alpha said:
Thyunda said:
ecoho said:
I love how everyone assumes this will be bad, seriously stop this shit. the new one releases in a month if its horrible feel free to ***** and complain, until then stop freaking out about a game that you know nothing about.
There is nothing more presumptive and irritating than a game released with a planned sequel. Worse, with a written sequel. What that means is they don't care whether you like Guardians or not. Don't like the new direction? Whether it turns out massively unpopular or not, it's here to stay. The sixth game is being written on the same foundation as the fourth, not the fifth, which means it's gonna be nothing but stagnation. How can you write a game for a constantly changing audience if you're using the same groundwork for three titles?

That's why people are bitching. It's idiotic and it makes assumptions. Too Human was planned as the start of a trilogy.

Look how well that went.
Mass Effect was written as a trilogy. The ending to ME3 was rewritten when the original was leaked. Look how well that went.

Planned as a trilogy or written as a trilogy? There's a big difference. Could you play any of the Mass Effect games to 100% completion and feel as though you got a complete experience? Did stopping the Reapers at the end of the first game feel like a neat ending, or did you feel like you were left hanging? The second game had a minor issue where at the end of the game you get to see the Reapers rushing through space. Without that three-second scene, Mass Effect 2 did a really neat job of existing as a standalone product. There were three years between the first and second game - that is easily enough time for the writers to have learned from their achievements or mistakes and improved on them, which the second game objectively did. The third had a rushed ending, as you've said. It was basically thrown together without any real thought for the story itself because the original ending was leaked.

Do you think it would've been as messy had it been allowed to develop at its own pace?
 

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Halo will always have a place in my console. Halo: CE was the first game that my son and I ever played through... together. He is now seventeen and to this day we've played through every release together, typically the week that they come out. We'll be doing the same with Halo 5, and hopefully many more Halo games to come.
 

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Cycloptomese said:
Halo will always have a place in my console. Halo: CE was the first game that my son and I ever played through... together. He is now seventeen and to this day we've played through every release together, typically the week that they come out. We'll be doing the same with Halo 5, and hopefully many more Halo games to come.
That is surprisingly sweet :D
 

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Complain all you want, at least it's not a yearly release thing! The games look well made, are fun, and the series lore is way more interesting than COD or the AC series. Plus that trailer was beautiful! It made it seem like the Chief dying was to the Halo world what 9/11 was to us. I'd love to dig out my old 360 and pick up 4 at some point since I missed it; hopefully I can get a used copy super cheap.
 

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Sniper Team 4 said:
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I'm still excited that Kelly, Linda, and Fred are finally going to be in the game. Took them long enough.
I had not heard this news. This makes me super excited for Halo 5, as opposed to just regular excited. Those characters are fantastic and I've been waiting for them to make a game appearance for so long.
I've got so much reading to do in the next month before release. Haven't read any of the expanded universe stuff since Halo 4 came out, so I went and ordered the books I'm missing a couple days ago.
1) Go to YouTube.
2) "Blue Team Intro Halo 5"
3) You're welcome.
O, that makes sense as to why I hadn't heard. I was avoiding watching it because I wanted to see it for the first time when I boot up the game.
 

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Oh for the love of...

ENOUGH ALREADY!
"EVERYONE STOP ENJOYING THINGS THAT I DON'T LIKE!!!"
You misunderstood me, I meant that the story should have been allowed to end by now.
I'm interested in the new trilogy as it's clearly trying to go in a new direction with the same lore.

That being said, the original had a pretty clear and satisfying ending with Halo 3. When I played 4 it felt heavily disconnected from it's predecessors.
 

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seiler88 said:
the story should have been allowed to end by now.
why? the Halo universe is one of the richest in gaming. they had so much backstory in the written media that they now wish to explore in the games. all the Promethean stuff, Blue team, etc. existed before Halo 4 and 5, only now we are actually being given an opportunity to see it all.

also, Halo 4 did not have closure, so the story has not ended.