Halo CEA: Terminals explain please

[monkeymo4d]

Now before the collective Escapist community virtually tars and feathers me for liking halo, I just wanted to ask. Recently I bought halo CEA and came across a terminal video whih left me a bit confused.
In the video the covenant construct says "it was never made" and also said "only I shall remain and then....free." Does that mean the covenant construct is a re-purposed Forerunner AI or something. I've read some of the books however my knowledge of the mythos is still sub-par compared to the most hardcore fans.

 

[Korten12]

Now before the collective Escapist community virtually tars and feathers me for liking halo, I just wanted to ask. Recently I bought halo CEA and came across a terminal video whih left me a bit confused.
In the video the covenant construct says "it was never made" and also said "only I shall remain and then....free." Does that mean the covenant construct is a re-purposed Forerunner AI or something. I've read some of the books however my knowledge of the mythos is still sub-par compared to the most hardcore fans.

No, the Covenant AI's are stolen UNSC AI's and changed.

 

[monkeymo4d]

No, the Covenant AI's are stolen UNSC AI's and changed.

I knew they they were repurposed from something, although Im sorta sad their not re purposed from Forerunner AI . Would have made it more interesting..Oh well its still interesting.

 

[Korten12]

No, the Covenant AI's are stolen UNSC AI's and changed.

I knew they they were repurposed from something, although Im sorta sad their not re purposed from Forerunner AI . Would have made it more interesting..Oh well its still interesting.

It would have lead to plot holes, since they would have discovered that Humans were reclaimers from their data, although the Prophets did (they declared war on humans so they didn't lose their power from the big reveal) they didn't discover it from any AI.

At least, I don't believe so. They never said exactly how they found out.

 

[monkeymo4d]

It would have lead to plot holes, since they would have discovered that Humans were reclaimers from their data, although the Prophets did (they declared war on humans so they didn't lose their power from the big reveal) they didn't discover it from any AI.

At least, I don't believe so. They never said exactly how they found out.

I think it may have something to do with the human-Forerunner war and how the prophets were actually present for it. Or I may be talking out of my ass again .Its been a while so my knowledge of the books is pretty hazy. Either way Im loving how 343 dropped subtle hints about halo 4's plot in halo cea .
Although I would love it if the Microsoft, valve and Nintendo put aside their differences and combined their efforts to create the ultimate alien killing team.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

I think when it says "only I will remain" it's referencing the Great Journey, and that once all the Covenant are gone it will no longer have to serve them.

I like how Guilty Spark tells him to stop fighting the humans, aww G.S., you cared all along!

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

No, the Covenant AI's are stolen UNSC AI's and changed.

I doubt that's true, they generally consider UNSC tech to be altogether blasphemous such that they won't even pick up a UNSC weapon when their own is empty or lost.

 

[electric method]

The terminals were added because many fans liked the terminals from Halo 3. They were also added to give/provide clues about where the plot of Halo 4 and the new trilogy will be going.

I found the terminals interesting because they added some depth to the halo universe and 343 Guilty Spark's back story as well. Also if I remeber right, some of the terminals reference some events that happened in the books, although I am not entirely sure of that because it's been quite some time since I read them.

 

[Korten12]

No, the Covenant AI's are stolen UNSC AI's and changed.

I doubt that's true, they generally consider UNSC tech to be altogether blasphemous such that they won't even pick up a UNSC weapon when their own is empty or lost.

It was mentioned in First Strike, the covenant is horrible in the ways of Ai so they take UNSS AI's and use them.

The covenant has good tech but is not innovative as Humanity is.

 

[Korten12]

The terminals were added because many fans liked the terminals from Halo 3. They were also added to give/provide clues about where the plot of Halo 4 and the new trilogy will be going.

I found the terminals interesting because they added some depth to the halo universe and 343 Guilty Spark's back story as well. Also if I remeber right, some of the terminals reference some events that happened in the books, although I am not entirely sure of that because it's been quite some time since I read them.

They do reference cryptum and primordium often in them.

 

[renegade7]

Now before the collective Escapist community virtually tars and feathers me for liking halo, I just wanted to ask. Recently I bought halo CEA and came across a terminal video whih left me a bit confused.
In the video the covenant construct says "it was never made" and also said "only I shall remain and then....free." Does that mean the covenant construct is a re-purposed Forerunner AI or something. I've read some of the books however my knowledge of the mythos is still sub-par compared to the most hardcore fans.

The Halo terminals are a reference to Marathon (I won't explain how, because it would spoil the story). It's a little dated, but if you haven't played it you definitely should. It's open source now, and you can get the entire trilogy at

http://source.bungie.org/

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

No, the Covenant AI's are stolen UNSC AI's and changed.

I doubt that's true, they generally consider UNSC tech to be altogether blasphemous such that they won't even pick up a UNSC weapon when their own is empty or lost.

It was mentioned in First Strike, the covenant is horrible in the ways of Ai so they take UNSS AI's and use them.

The covenant has good tech but is not innovative as Humanity is.

Upon further research:

Cortana returned her attention to the Covenant AI's code. Small portions of the alien software looked like her. The odds of such a parallel evolution in computer science seemed improbable. It was almost as if it were her code ... only copied many times, each time with subtle errors introduced by the replication process.
Could the Covenant have captured a human-made AI, copied it, and then used the result in their ships?

 

[Korten12]

Now before the collective Escapist community virtually tars and feathers me for liking halo, I just wanted to ask. Recently I bought halo CEA and came across a terminal video whih left me a bit confused.
In the video the covenant construct says "it was never made" and also said "only I shall remain and then....free." Does that mean the covenant construct is a re-purposed Forerunner AI or something. I've read some of the books however my knowledge of the mythos is still sub-par compared to the most hardcore fans.

The Halo terminals are a reference to Marathon (I won't explain how, because it would spoil the story). It's a little dated, but if you haven't played it you definitely should. It's open source now, and you can get the entire trilogy at

http://source.bungie.org/

No they aren't Marathon and Halo are wholly separate universes. Unless you mean the terminal-like things you find around marathon.

 

[renegade7]

Now before the collective Escapist community virtually tars and feathers me for liking halo, I just wanted to ask. Recently I bought halo CEA and came across a terminal video whih left me a bit confused.
In the video the covenant construct says "it was never made" and also said "only I shall remain and then....free." Does that mean the covenant construct is a re-purposed Forerunner AI or something. I've read some of the books however my knowledge of the mythos is still sub-par compared to the most hardcore fans.

The Halo terminals are a reference to Marathon (I won't explain how, because it would spoil the story). It's a little dated, but if you haven't played it you definitely should. It's open source now, and you can get the entire trilogy at

http://source.bungie.org/

No they aren't Marathon and Halo are wholly separate universes. Unless you mean the terminal-like things you find around marathon.

Yes they are, but the terminals themselves themselves and also the things they say closely resemble the dialogue in Marathon. As I said, it's a reference, though not a direct storyline connection.

 

[repeating integers]

Silly monkeymo, liking Halo isn't uncool anymore. Thankfully.

I was more surprised that there was an actual A.I on the Covenant ship. I thought they didn't like A.Is. I haven't and won't read (most of) the books, though, so it could have been a reference I didn't understand.

 

[Korten12]

Now before the collective Escapist community virtually tars and feathers me for liking halo, I just wanted to ask. Recently I bought halo CEA and came across a terminal video whih left me a bit confused.
In the video the covenant construct says "it was never made" and also said "only I shall remain and then....free." Does that mean the covenant construct is a re-purposed Forerunner AI or something. I've read some of the books however my knowledge of the mythos is still sub-par compared to the most hardcore fans.

The Halo terminals are a reference to Marathon (I won't explain how, because it would spoil the story). It's a little dated, but if you haven't played it you definitely should. It's open source now, and you can get the entire trilogy at

http://source.bungie.org/

No they aren't Marathon and Halo are wholly separate universes. Unless you mean the terminal-like things you find around marathon.

Yes they are, but the terminals themselves themselves and also the things they say closely resemble the dialogue in Marathon. As I said, it's a reference, though not a direct storyline connection.

No, bungie themselves even confirmed that the universes are both seperate. And now that 343i owns Halo and doesn't own Marathon, you can see a bit of the references gone. Such as 343GS originally had a marathon symbol on him, but now it's gone.

Edit: Wait, when you said: Yes they are, do you mean the terminals in the second part of my post?

 

[x EvilErmine x]

I'm going to go against the majority here and say it was a forerunner A.I.

I may be wrong having only played the games and read non of the books but I'm fairly sure that the covenant had a Forerunner key ship and the A.I. was part of that. It was heavily damaged and a little insane. Guilty Spark talked to it when the covenant were on Halo and asked it to stop them from breaching the containment of the flood. However being damaged and unbalanced it did not respond and started spouting something about the journey and how when the halos were fired it would then be free of it's enslavement to the covenant. At which point Guilty Spark departs to try and contain the release of the flood saying that it would be back later to decommission the A.I.

Or like I may be really wrong...who knows?

 

[Korten12]

I'm going to go against the majority here and say it was a forerunner A.I.

I may be wrong having only played the games and read non of the books but I'm fairly sure that the covenant had a Forerunner key ship and the A.I. was part of that. It was heavily damaged and a little insane. Guilty Spark talked to it when the covenant were on Halo and asked it to stop them from breaching the containment of the flood. However being damaged and unbalanced it did not respond and started spouting something about the journey and how when the halos were fired it would then be free of it's enslavement to the covenant. At which point Guilty Spark departs to try and contain the release of the flood saying that it would be back later to decommission the A.I.

Or like I may be really wrong...who knows?

The AI was simply one that was taken from the UNSC and changed into a covenant AI. A similar one was found in the covenant ship that was taken over just after Halo 1 in the book First Strike where Cortana took control of the ship and it had a covenant AI that was made from an UNSC AI.

 

[renegade7]

Now before the collective Escapist community virtually tars and feathers me for liking halo, I just wanted to ask. Recently I bought halo CEA and came across a terminal video whih left me a bit confused.
In the video the covenant construct says "it was never made" and also said "only I shall remain and then....free." Does that mean the covenant construct is a re-purposed Forerunner AI or something. I've read some of the books however my knowledge of the mythos is still sub-par compared to the most hardcore fans.

The Halo terminals are a reference to Marathon (I won't explain how, because it would spoil the story). It's a little dated, but if you haven't played it you definitely should. It's open source now, and you can get the entire trilogy at

http://source.bungie.org/

No they aren't Marathon and Halo are wholly separate universes. Unless you mean the terminal-like things you find around marathon.

Yes they are, but the terminals themselves themselves and also the things they say closely resemble the dialogue in Marathon. As I said, it's a reference, though not a direct storyline connection.

No, bungie themselves even confirmed that the universes are both seperate. And now that 343i owns Halo and doesn't own Marathon, you can see a bit of the references gone. Such as 343GS originally had a marathon symbol on him, but now it's gone.

Edit: Wait, when you said: Yes they are, do you mean the terminals in the second part of my post?

I meant yes, they are separate universes. The terminals themselves are a reference to Marathon, as well as a bit of the dialogue on them in its resemblance to dialogue in Marathon (talking about freedom, the concept of Rampancy, etc.)

 

[Korten12]

Now before the collective Escapist community virtually tars and feathers me for liking halo, I just wanted to ask. Recently I bought halo CEA and came across a terminal video whih left me a bit confused.
In the video the covenant construct says "it was never made" and also said "only I shall remain and then....free." Does that mean the covenant construct is a re-purposed Forerunner AI or something. I've read some of the books however my knowledge of the mythos is still sub-par compared to the most hardcore fans.

The Halo terminals are a reference to Marathon (I won't explain how, because it would spoil the story). It's a little dated, but if you haven't played it you definitely should. It's open source now, and you can get the entire trilogy at

http://source.bungie.org/

No they aren't Marathon and Halo are wholly separate universes. Unless you mean the terminal-like things you find around marathon.

Yes they are, but the terminals themselves themselves and also the things they say closely resemble the dialogue in Marathon. As I said, it's a reference, though not a direct storyline connection.

No, bungie themselves even confirmed that the universes are both seperate. And now that 343i owns Halo and doesn't own Marathon, you can see a bit of the references gone. Such as 343GS originally had a marathon symbol on him, but now it's gone.

Edit: Wait, when you said: Yes they are, do you mean the terminals in the second part of my post?

I meant yes, they are separate universes. The terminals themselves are a reference to Marathon, as well as a bit of the dialogue on them in its resemblance to dialogue in Marathon (talking about freedom, the concept of Rampancy, etc.)

Oh yeah, lots of resemblances and same concepts Bungie brought from Marathon to Halo.