Hentai VS Ecchi Anime, Where is the border?

Andreas55k

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I have begun to watch a lot of Anime and found a lot of those that had the "Ecchi" catagory...
A few of them took a mature look at sex, though others treated it like an easy fan service...

Then i got through one specific series.

Im Talking about The "Kiss X sis" Series...

Once i had watched that to the end i thought to myself...
"Was that... Anime, or did i just watch Softcore Hentai?"

I wont argue weather the series is good or not, its just that i got interested in the question,
"Where does the border go?"
Is it as easy just so say "If there is sex in it" or is it more refined...

What do you say? Anime lovers of the Escapist... :)
 

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Hentai is porn. Ecchi is just erotic images. Upskirt, camel toe, and suggestive stuff. Hentai is when its actual sex, or sex like thing, ie penetration.
 

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I think that the old "racy versus porn" debate comes into play. Ecchi is definitely the racy kind, and I'm sure there's a lot of overlap, so it's hard to define.

I'd say that, as a rule of thumb, if the anime tries to avoid showing anything you wouldn't see in a R-rated movie then it's ecchi. If it doesn't, hentai.
 

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Hentai, Shows tits.
Ecchi, more perverted then hentai, but doesn't show tits.
Anime, more fucked up then Ecchi, but isn't perverted and doesn't show tits.
 

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If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard (I'm being honest I've only heard of it, I couldn't bring myself to watch any hentai seriously, closest I've come is AMV hell 0)
well I guess if it shows genitalia it counts as hentai (elven lied showed just about everything but genitals and it was called ecchi)
though I guess that it's always blurred in japan and only uncensored when shipped overseas.
 

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Well, if it has explicit sex, its hentai, otherwise its not.

Catalyst6 said:
I'd say that, as a rule of thumb, if the anime tries to avoid showing anything you wouldn't see in a R-rated movie then it's ecchi. If it doesn't, hentai.
Actually, this sums it up rather easily.
 

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Drakmeire said:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard
Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?
 

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PoisonUnagi said:
Drakmeire said:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard
Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?
Oh dear god... nevermind then. I've heard good things I just had no idea what it was about. guess I should have read the series list for AMV Hell /0
 

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PoisonUnagi said:
Drakmeire said:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard
Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?
Bro, bro, that is like, the Romeo and Juliet of our time.
 

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TeeBs said:
PoisonUnagi said:
Drakmeire said:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard
Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?
Bro, bro, that is like, the Romeo and Juliet of our time.
IF YOU ARE FUCKING CRAZY!
Ahem... I watched the whole series of Kiss X Sis and oddly enough, no nudity, I was expecting it by the 3rd episode based on the premise alone but yeah its weird.
Though one scene they do get it on (One of the OVA's), its like Barbie and Ken except more suggestive.
 

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I believe the difference is that Hentai would be considered pornographic while Ecchi would not. While Ecchi is certainly sexual at times, it doesn't get into anything explicit.
 

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Exposed genitalia is the border.

I'm pretty sure that's the actual rule.
 

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TeeBs said:
PoisonUnagi said:
Drakmeire said:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard
Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?
Bro, bro, that is like, the Romeo and Juliet of our time.
Seriously. In fact, to get the full depth of the story, you should see it in the original Klingon.
 
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Simple. If it shows graphically explicit acts of sex, then it's hentai. Echhi would be more PG-13 or rated R, while hentai would be NC-17 or rated X.
 

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PoisonUnagi said:
Drakmeire said:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard
Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?
Walpurgisnacht? I thought anime was Japanese, not German. >.>
 

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Blitzwing said:
PoisonUnagi said:
Drakmeire said:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard
Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?
Weird doesn?t equal bad. How does any of that lead you to believe Bible Black has a bad story?
Because there's a plothole in which the characters arbitrarily have sex with someone they're deliberately trying not to have sex with?

That's a pretty fucking terrible storyline already.

LetalisK said:
PoisonUnagi said:
Drakmeire said:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard
Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?
Walpurgisnacht? I thought anime was Japanese, not German. >.>
Anime is Japanese, but Bible Black is, at its core, about sex[/i] satanism. Walpurgisnacht is a satanic holiday that's effectively worldwide by now.