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Brad Shepard

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crepesack said:
I'm curious, I'm thinking about picking up Wow as a desto lock but i'm not too interested if the grind is really as bad as everyone says. I want to play because after my friend got her hunter to lvl 80 she wants me to play. So can anyone give me a time frame for play time, just until I can go on like raids.
really man, i would say dont get the game at all, it leaches your life away and you will have no one to blame but yourself, i try when i can to turn people away from this game when i can, but if you have to play the game, i would say there is about ( from 1 to 10) about a 7 on the grind scale, but im just wondering, what are you going to roll? and what side? (Horde is better btw.)
 

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Fappy said:
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Every Ret Pally I know is a total asshole irl... hopefully that fact of life hasn't changed since I quit.
=( Why ?
It's easier to know who to avoid :p
Everyone should know what Hunters are in our society... amirite?
Well cast aside your presumptions my good friend because I tend to be as annoyingly amiable until people stop being so blindsighted by past wrong-doings.

Hi! I'm a Retribution paladin and you will be my new bestest friend. *kidnap*
I never claimed things are as they were when I left. Perhaps the little Retadins started taking anger management and/or counseling for their common sociopathic tendencies... or maybe you are just an exception. Anyway nice to meet you, I iz a Drood. :D
Ahah, maybe thats why, my guild is led by druids. I like them :) Can't play them to save my life but I would be so dead without my favorite Tree and Bear friends. Heck one of them solo'ed healing the entire first part of Ulduar all the way up to Auraiya (actually a few more attempts and I bet she could have done it too). She's a nutter, but a talented one.

I started late, so I'm sorta new-generation retribution paladin, My guild had no raiding retri paladin to speak of until I came, so I filled a niche and thusly attained a very friendly position in it, does wonders for your mood. As I understand it, retri paladins weren't very well recieved in BC raiding?

Now we're almost a requirement. It's nice to be needed.
 

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If you have played any other mmo's you know what to expect if your new to the mmo thing then yeh it is kinda grindy but it mixes it up every now again so you wont be doing the same thing from 1-80
 

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Charli said:
Fappy said:
Charli said:
Fappy said:
Charli said:
Fappy said:
Every Ret Pally I know is a total asshole irl... hopefully that fact of life hasn't changed since I quit.
=( Why ?
It's easier to know who to avoid :p
Everyone should know what Hunters are in our society... amirite?
Well cast aside your presumptions my good friend because I tend to be as annoyingly amiable until people stop being so blindsighted by past wrong-doings.

Hi! I'm a Retribution paladin and you will be my new bestest friend. *kidnap*
I never claimed things are as they were when I left. Perhaps the little Retadins started taking anger management and/or counseling for their common sociopathic tendencies... or maybe you are just an exception. Anyway nice to meet you, I iz a Drood. :D
Ahah, maybe thats why, my guild is led by druids. I like them :) Can't play them to save my life but I would be so dead without my favorite Tree and Bear friends. Heck one of them solo'ed healing the entire first part of Ulduar all the way up to Auraiya (actually a few more attempts and I bet she could have done it too). She's a nutter, but a talented one.

I started late, so I'm sorta new-generation retribution paladin, My guild had no raiding retri paladin to speak of until I came, so I filled a niche and thusly attained a very friendly position in it, does wonders for your mood. As I understand it, retri paladins weren't very well recieved in BC raiding?

Now we're almost a requirement. It's nice to be needed.
I had a very similar fate. Started playing BC Feral and was forced into tanking... not that I didn't enjoy it, I just preferred to kitty dps. I started kitty dipsing after Wrath came out as it was buffed a bit and I knew my class. They were then buffed in patch 3.1 (I think it was that one) and became DPS gods for awhile. I enjoyed it but ironically quit during the height of the Kitty DPS' reign... probably for the better. Was fun while it lasted and I still keep in contact with some of the old guildies.
 

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All depends on yourself. When I was still a hardcore player, I grinded craploads, the typical grinding: farming the same mobs over and over again to get some stuff. Then, at some point, I just thought "Am I having fun like this? No I'm not." and I just stopped grinding all together. I didn't miss anything, and all was well.
smallharmlesskitten said:
a few FYI's

Battlegrounds fun, Arena Bad. Battlegrounds are big 10v10 Up to 40v40. then theres Wintergrasp with 100v100. Arena is a duel in a box with 2v2, 3v3 or 5v5. Not much there except for the best gear and elitist pricks
I beg to differ, I found the occasional arena battle (without elitist pricks, at least from my side) very fun indeed. It's true though that you can make Arena just as 'hardcoar' as raiding, which can be either a good or bad thing.
Gunblade7303 said:
Gxas said:
What game is there that doesn't have grind?
bioshock, megaman, mario, SSBB, i could go on
I, again, beg to differ. In a way, almost every game is a grind. in Mario you grind coins. In BioShock all you do is grind Splicers, and in SSBB you grind each other (ewwwww). Look at any multiplayer shooter, chances are that there is a Deathmatch mode: kill 100 enemies. That's a pure grind.
 

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All depends on yourself. When I was still a hardcore player, I grinded craploads, the typical grinding: farming the same mobs over and over again to get some stuff. Then, at some point, I just thought "Am I having fun like this? No I'm not." and I just stopped grinding all together. I didn't miss anything, and all was well.
smallharmlesskitten said:
a few FYI's

Battlegrounds fun, Arena Bad. Battlegrounds are big 10v10 Up to 40v40. then theres Wintergrasp with 100v100. Arena is a duel in a box with 2v2, 3v3 or 5v5. Not much there except for the best gear and elitist pricks
I beg to differ, I found the occasional arena battle (without elitist pricks, at least from my side) very fun indeed. It's true though that you can make Arena just as 'hardcoar' as raiding, which can be either a good or bad thing.
Gunblade7303 said:
Gxas said:
What game is there that doesn't have grind?
bioshock, megaman, mario, SSBB, i could go on
I, again, beg to differ. In a way, almost every game is a grind. in Mario you grind coins. In BioShock all you do is grind Splicers, and in SSBB you grind each other (ewwwww). Look at any multiplayer shooter, chances are that there is a Deathmatch mode: kill 100 enemies. That's a pure grind.
That's an extremely broad view of "grinding"
 

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There's no grind in levelling up. the only grinding is gearing up in raids or getting honour and arena points.
 

Cowabungaa

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Fappy said:
That's an extremely broad view of "grinding"
Because it's an extremely broad word. All it basically means is doing the same thing over and over again to reach some kind goal. In Mario it's getting a high-score, in MW2 it's to level up or simply to win.

It gets problematic when it's not enjoyable anymore, like in WoW when you kill the same creature on the same spot over and over again. You can do that, yes, but you don't have to. You can grind Borean leather yourself, slaying those moose things over and over again, or you can do a few quests and buy the leather. It's up to you.
 

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It's all about grind and nothing more.
You kill one thing, then you kill thousands of the same kind, only with slightly different stats and levels.
You pick up one box, then you have to pick up 10 more boxes. Then you get quests where you do the same thing, but only now the boxes look like eggs, and now you have to pick 15 of them.
Then you get to PvP and you kill somebody, then you kill more of somebody's.
Grind, grind and nothing more.
I left the game because i noticed that developers just reskin old monsters, change their level and voila, expansion pack is ready.
 

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You don't realise how much of a grind WoW is until you hit 80 then quest on a low level character.

Outland and Northrend aren't too bad but Vanilla WoW is mostly grind quests. Catacylsm should change that.

I'm starting a new character called The Project. I'm going to see how long it'll take to get from level 20 to 80 just by doing dungeons and raids - no questing at all after that point
 

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Charli said:
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I do enjoy seeing how many newblet-melee's will battle charge the dark touched warriors in Naxxramas on their first raid. Me and the head Death Knight make a game of it by betting how many.
Pfft, I do that now.
You are my weekly entertainment.

Also captain obvious's and co?
He has a friend who plays WoW, she/he has clearly told him about all the classes. If anything he's done his homework. I knew I wanted to be a Paladin before I started playing... and I've yet to regret it. I really suck at the other classes.
I didin't grind in wow still don't want to do it but cos' of that I don't have much money but it still works.
 

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Ryuk2 said:
It's all about grind and nothing more.
You kill one thing, then you kill thousands of the same kind, only with slightly different stats and levels.
You pick up one box, then you have to pick up 10 more boxes. Then you get quests where you do the same thing, but only now the boxes look like eggs, and now you have to pick 15 of them.
Then you get to PvP and you kill somebody, then you kill more of somebody's.
Grind, grind and nothing more.
I left the game because i noticed that developers just reskin old monsters, change their level and voila, expansion pack is ready.
Isn't that like most games? in Oblivion its similar, pick up quest, kill someone or retreive something, rinse and repeat.

It's like car racing games, every race you just around and round and round, in a different looking car with different stats.

C&C games are just the usual placing of buildings and killing enemy after enemy


Most games are grinding. And WoW's not too bad in Outland and Northrend, there the quests are more varied. Like the one in Northrend where you ride a dragon and rescue prisoners

- Plus you've got the arenas and battlegrounds which are fun. And dungeons and raids are great. Plus the social aspect of going online and talking to your guildies
 

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At some levels it may feel like a grind like level 25-29 is a good example, a lot of people quit at that time when they are about to go into one of the best areas which is stranglethorn vale:)
It's gankalishus.
 

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its not that bad just look for a mod called quest helper and you wont have to try as hard to get around your quests.
 

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Chrissyluky said:
its not that bad just look for a mod called quest helper and you wont have to try as hard to get around your quests.
Or carbonite

Never tried quest helper but i have heard good things
 

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Ehh, WoW's ok, and it does have some grind. The reason some people thinks it has no grind, is because you level up so quickly in some areas, you skip other areas in the zone or in fact other zones. The first few zones have you feel like your zipping through it, but whatever the max level is during WoW's life the last 10 levels are a *****.

It's the same with all MMO's, moderatly fast in the beginning, and it slows to a crawl as you approach max level, seriously, the last percent of the second last level seems so slow you'd think time is about to stop.

My first MMO was Runescape, and to level in that game you literally have to be a maths expert or get a scientific calculator and spend 2 days PLANNING how you we're going to grind, each skill. Runescape scares almost everyone with a spec of life away because when you spend 6 hours burying bones to increase a skill from 56 to 57, when you're planning to get it to 80, you're like, FTS.

I got bored of Runescape when I played WoW and got bored of WoW when i played TF2. WoW endgame got so boring to me, every boss fight is just some boring maths formula where every class is cookie cutter to maximize damage.Skill is a moot factor, It's all gear dependant. Tf2 still hasn't got boring for me, and I think if there were to be only one Genre of gaming in the future, it would be FPS or degenaratives of FPS.
 

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Acrisius said:
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If you pick Paladin and go Retribution, you can /faceroll your keyboard for instant wins though. :D
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*smack*
Not the case anymore. Believe me.
Really? I played WoW today. Death Knights and Paladins are a *****. Well I guess it depends on gear...with proper gear, anything can shave off 33% of my health in 2 seconds...especially if my own gear is not so good lol.
what class are you, DKs have been overnerfed, Scourge strike hits for carp, blood and frost are meh for pvp right now and paladins just cleanse spam diseases, the bulk of the best DK pvp spec (unholy's) attacks
I'm facerolling most classes in bg as a Blood specc DK, at least at my level, but I agree with the cleanse spam and whatnot.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20136596736&sid=1

read this, all of it. If you want any advice I haven't played DK much (55-62 twice, about to do it a third time on another server) but I have read up and can give some links to end game stuff if you want
 

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geon106 said:
Chrissyluky said:
its not that bad just look for a mod called quest helper and you wont have to try as hard to get around your quests.
Or carbonite

Never tried quest helper but i have heard good things
Questhelper is the simpler one to use, but carbonite has more features. Try both