Humble Origin Bundle Breaks $5 Million

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What's everyone's beef with Origin?

Sure, it's not as good as steam as a platform, but the software and service itself runs fine. If anything, I'd say the software from a technical perspective is nicer than steam.

Say what you want about EA, but Origin takes no ill words from me.
 

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Honestly I can't see any wrong with this deal. EA is not getting money from this, all they get is people installing origin to play this. Funny thing is if Steam did this there would be endless praise sang.

I'm not saying EA doesn't deserve some suspicion considering what they've done in the past with their business tactics but this is a very good deal with very little downside as far as I can see.
 

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I think the lack of Deadspace 2 is a fairly transparent ploy to get you to buy it.
Then again $1.50 to charity. Origin isn't selling me anything.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
...minus an undisclosed slice for the Humble Bundle guys...
Um, it's not an undisclosed amount. The disposition of funds is provided at the bottom of the page. Heck, you choose how much goes to the Humble Bundle guys. Perhaps you meant undetermined?
 

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Yeah no one is installing Origin for this. I got the bundle and it sent no money to EA(winning) and only used the Steam keys. Oh look I own copies of these games! I can legally install a copy from another source that does not use Origin, because I paid for it.
<link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.825489-So-I-got-Origin-from-EA-A-Review-Image-Heavy>I wouldn't be so sure about that Origin comment.

OT: It warms the temporarily doused cockles of my heart to see that, while a ton of endlessly unnerving people are trying to paint this as something insidious and evil, there's still so much money flowing to those charities. Way to go, EA!
 

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Andy Shandy said:
What a bunch of assholes, eh?

5 Million raised spread across various charities but damn them for having the gall to use their own digital distribution system to do it! (even though plenty of the games came with Steam keys)...
^^^Exactly this.^^^

I have been made a happy gamer (and other escapistic aspects) by Humble Bundle many a time, and was card in hand ready to get this deal too and help (as a great side-effect) some good charities... until I read that you would STILL need their respective digital distributions to get them or play them.
Wankers indeed.
 

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mygocarp said:
What's everyone's beef with Origin?

Sure, it's not as good as steam as a platform, but the software and service itself runs fine. If anything, I'd say the software from a technical perspective is nicer than steam.
A) It's another distribution platform. People don't want to switch from Steam and have to deal with 2 separate platforms. They want all their stuff in one easy place. And the way that EA split from Steam, including taking their games off of Steam, made people unhappy.

B) In the beginning (and to this day for some people, although the same can be said for Steam) it was a completely unusable mess that constantly crashed and caused more hassle than it's worth. It slowed computers down and was seen as a pointless obvious cash grab by EA.

C) It was made by the company voted two years in a row as the worst company in America in an online poll. Haters, as they say, will hate.
 

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Look at that EA, you offer people incentive, on a platform that allows you to offer incentive, and a metric shit-ton of money falls from the sky. Has it clicked now? I do hope so.
 

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lacktheknack said:
slash2x said:
Yeah no one is installing Origin for this. I got the bundle and it sent no money to EA(winning) and only used the Steam keys. Oh look I own copies of these games! I can legally install a copy from another source that does not use Origin, because I paid for it.
<link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.825489-So-I-got-Origin-from-EA-A-Review-Image-Heavy>I wouldn't be so sure about that Origin comment.

OT: It warms the temporarily doused cockles of my heart to see that, while a ton of endlessly unnerving people are trying to paint this as something insidious and evil, there's still so much money flowing to those charities. Way to go, EA!
Yeah I do not want to voluntarily install spyware [http://www.cinemablend.com/games/EA-Says-Origin-Isn-t-Spyware-Although-It-Does-Scan-Your-Entire-PC-36690.html] to my PC. So thanks but no thanks though!
 

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mygocarp said:
What's everyone's beef with Origin?

Sure, it's not as good as steam as a platform, but the software and service itself runs fine. If anything, I'd say the software from a technical perspective is nicer than steam.

alfinchkid said:
A) It's another distribution platform. People don't want to switch from Steam and have to deal with 2 separate platforms. They want all their stuff in one easy place. And the way that EA split from Steam, including taking their games off of Steam, made people unhappy.

B) In the beginning (and to this day for some people, although the same can be said for Steam) it was a completely unusable mess that constantly crashed and caused more hassle than it's worth. It slowed computers down and was seen as a pointless obvious cash grab by EA.

C) It was made by the company voted two years in a row as the worst company in America in an online poll. Haters, as they say, will hate.

Annnnnnd it like to scan everything on your system, will not let you opt out of that scan whenever it feels like it and will not let you FULLY shut it off like spyware [http://www.destructoid.com/ea-s-origin-may-be-glorified-spyware-causes-mass-upset-209745.phtml]
 

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slash2x said:
lacktheknack said:
slash2x said:
Yeah no one is installing Origin for this. I got the bundle and it sent no money to EA(winning) and only used the Steam keys. Oh look I own copies of these games! I can legally install a copy from another source that does not use Origin, because I paid for it.
<link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.825489-So-I-got-Origin-from-EA-A-Review-Image-Heavy>I wouldn't be so sure about that Origin comment.

OT: It warms the temporarily doused cockles of my heart to see that, while a ton of endlessly unnerving people are trying to paint this as something insidious and evil, there's still so much money flowing to those charities. Way to go, EA!
Yeah I do not want to voluntarily install spyware [http://www.cinemablend.com/games/EA-Says-Origin-Isn-t-Spyware-Although-It-Does-Scan-Your-Entire-PC-36690.html] to my PC. So thanks but no thanks though!
...So you don't have Steam either? It takes the same information.

Same with any anti-virus. Those things specifically scan ALL the files on your computer! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF CONSUMER PRIVACY?

Also, there are options to turn off data collection in Origin, and as much as I know you hate this, they ACTUALLY DO follow through with those options. You know, so they don't get sued by everyone.
 

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My only problem with Origin is that they rarely (never?) have any significant sales. Even now, the 'Deals' section contains 4 Pre-Orders and OMG Free shipping on orders >$25!! (for a limited time. On a digital distribution platform. Riiiiiiiiiiiight). As a consumer, I'm willing to put up with reasonable DRM (which, let's be honest, is basically equivalent between steam and origin) as long as I don't have to pay full retail price for it.
 

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CharlesCarmichael said:
My only problem with Origin is that they rarely (never?) have any significant sales. Even now, the 'Deals' section contains 4 Pre-Orders and OMG Free shipping on orders >$25!! (for a limited time. On a digital distribution platform. Riiiiiiiiiiiight). As a consumer, I'm willing to put up with reasonable DRM (which, let's be honest, is basically equivalent between steam and origin) as long as I don't have to pay full retail price for it.
EA needs to figure out whether it wants Origin to be a digital PC store front or an EA store front, because I'm getting sick and tired of seeing NHL games on sale only to find out I need to buy a console then wait 5-7 business days for shipping.
 

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lacktheknack said:
slash2x said:
lacktheknack said:
slash2x said:
Yeah no one is installing Origin for this. I got the bundle and it sent no money to EA(winning) and only used the Steam keys. Oh look I own copies of these games! I can legally install a copy from another source that does not use Origin, because I paid for it.
<link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.825489-So-I-got-Origin-from-EA-A-Review-Image-Heavy>I wouldn't be so sure about that Origin comment.

OT: It warms the temporarily doused cockles of my heart to see that, while a ton of endlessly unnerving people are trying to paint this as something insidious and evil, there's still so much money flowing to those charities. Way to go, EA!
Yeah I do not want to voluntarily install spyware [http://www.nerdbuster.com/2011/09/eas-origin-wants-to-scan-your-pc-and-invade-your-privacy/] to my PC. So thanks but no thanks though!
...So you don't have Steam either? It takes the same information.

Also, there are options to turn off data collection in Origin, and as much as I know you hate this, they ACTUALLY DO follow through with those options. You know, so they don't get sued by everyone.
Tut tut tut they have the EULA [http://www.nerdbuster.com/2011/09/eas-origin-wants-to-scan-your-pc-and-invade-your-privacy/] that lets them scan everything on your entire hard drive like spyware. By installing the software you agreed to it too. So no lawsuits for them you agreed to let them open your computer and shake it for the data that falls out. You can NEVER turn those options fully off, the EULA you panned over specifically states that too.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2011/08/27/ea-scandal-continues-revises-origin-eula-still-will-scan-your-computer-for-all-personal-information/

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450660

Mr Sterling says it best <a href="http://www.destructoid.com/ea-s-origin-may-be-glorified-spyware-causes-mass-upset-209745.phtml
">and rather clearly
 

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slash2x said:
lacktheknack said:
slash2x said:
lacktheknack said:
slash2x said:
Yeah no one is installing Origin for this. I got the bundle and it sent no money to EA(winning) and only used the Steam keys. Oh look I own copies of these games! I can legally install a copy from another source that does not use Origin, because I paid for it.
<link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.825489-So-I-got-Origin-from-EA-A-Review-Image-Heavy>I wouldn't be so sure about that Origin comment.

OT: It warms the temporarily doused cockles of my heart to see that, while a ton of endlessly unnerving people are trying to paint this as something insidious and evil, there's still so much money flowing to those charities. Way to go, EA!
Yeah I do not want to voluntarily install spyware [http://www.nerdbuster.com/2011/09/eas-origin-wants-to-scan-your-pc-and-invade-your-privacy/] to my PC. So thanks but no thanks though!
...So you don't have Steam either? It takes the same information.

Also, there are options to turn off data collection in Origin, and as much as I know you hate this, they ACTUALLY DO follow through with those options. You know, so they don't get sued by everyone.
Tut tut tut they have the EULA [http://www.nerdbuster.com/2011/09/eas-origin-wants-to-scan-your-pc-and-invade-your-privacy/] that lets them scan everything on your entire hard drive like spyware. By installing the software you agreed to it too. So no lawsuits for them you agreed to let them open your computer and shake it for the data that falls out. You can NEVER turn those options fully off, the EULA you panned over specifically states that too.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2011/08/27/ea-scandal-continues-revises-origin-eula-still-will-scan-your-computer-for-all-personal-information/

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450660

Mr Sterling says it best <a href="http://www.destructoid.com/ea-s-origin-may-be-glorified-spyware-causes-mass-upset-209745.phtml
">and rather clearly
OK, so they have information on which games I have (because I simply do not buy that they're reading my documents, that's beyond stupid).

...Now what?

A whole lot of nothing will now happen. They're not going to sell the info they got, because it's not useful to anyone but themselves. The only major advertising they do on the Origin platform is... other EA products. They don't have any use for the other things the EULA allows them to scan for beyond optimization (which, again, Steam reads these as well). Etc.

The principal of the thing gets neutered by the details.

It probably doesn't hurt that I care less and less about consumer privacy the more I learn about how the internet works and how much we're being observed anyways. If people ACTUALLY gave care about their privacy, the first thing they'd do would be taking a sledgehammer to their computers. "Privacy" has been reduced to a buzzword, and I really can't be assed about it anymore.
 

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fix-the-spade said:
Don't forget that with the exception of Dead Space 3 and BF3, all of the bundle titles are available as Steam keys.

I recommend you get them as Steam keys too, because Origin is currently hurking it's guts out and being slower than normal. This is not a problem I had getting the games from Steam.

Medal of Honor 2010 is much better than I was expecting...
I like the fact that I got 2 keys for each of the steam games, so Crysis 2 etc are now on both of my PC's :)

OT: Seriously a great move by EA, I hope they continue improving as they definitely need to get their priorities in straight.
 

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This appears for real. I'm downloading Dead Space 3 right now. I'm very surprised. This is a great package and I was near certain I was going to be ripped off. I figured it was worth a charitable contribution to find out for sure.

Now I have to tell friends.
 

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lacktheknack said:
slash2x said:
OK, so they have information on which games I have (because I simply do not buy that they're reading my documents, that's beyond stupid).
So your argument is that you just do not personally believe EA would do something they POINTEDLY refuse to remove from their EULA?????


A whole lot of nothing will now happen. They're not going to sell the info they got, because it's not useful to anyone but themselves. The only major advertising they do on the Origin platform is... other EA products. They don't have any use for the other things the EULA allows them to scan for beyond optimization (which, again, Steam reads these as well). Etc.
You started this conversation by linking a post that you SPECIFICALLY said you did not read the EULA..... Might want to do that in the future.

Origin says with will scan all of your hardware, including your hard drive contents and any attached media..... Left your camera on a dock? EA looked at your pictures.

Section 2 Paragraph 2
http://eacom.s3.amazonaws.com/EULA_Origin_PC_ROW.final.5.24.13.pdf said:
In addition to information that you give Origin directly (such as email address and
account preferences), Origin periodically collects information including IP and
MAC address, Application usage statistics (for instance, if and when you
experienced unsuccessful installation), operating system (such as service pack,
drivers and support DLLs such as DirectX version), information about your
hardware as well as CPU information. If you do not agree to this collection and
use of information, do not install or use the Application.
The CLOSEST thing Steam say they will scan your SPECS and the software THEY install.

Section 2 subsection A paragraph 2
http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/ said:
For reasons that include, without limitation, system security, stability, and multiplayer interoperability, Steam may need to automatically update, pre-load, create new versions of or otherwise enhance the Software and accordingly, the system requirements to use the Software may change over time. You consent to such automatic updating. You understand that this Agreement (including applicable Subscription Terms) does not entitle you to future updates, new versions or other enhancements of the Software associated with a particular Subscription, although Valve may choose to provide such updates, etc. in its sole discretion.
The principal of the thing gets neutered by the details.

No by definition the principle is made up of the details.
It probably doesn't hurt that I care less and less about consumer privacy the more I learn about how the internet works and how much we're being observed anyways. If people ACTUALLY gave care about their privacy, the first thing they'd do would be taking a sledgehammer to their computers. "Privacy" has been reduced to a buzzword, and I really can't be assed about it anymore.
You are not concerned with your privacy at all, and think that you can only protect yourself by destroying your system?.......Same thought process. I am not worried about crashing my car, but the only way to prevent crashes is to set it on fire and walk.......



I am done here...... There is nothing I can talk with you about this that would matter. Enjoy Origin and best of luck to you. I am not going to respond to this conversation anymore. There is no point.
 

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Gorfias said:
This appears for real. I'm downloading Dead Space 3 right now. I'm very surprised. This is a great package and I was near certain I was going to be ripped off. I figured it was worth a charitable contribution to find out for sure.

Now I have to tell friends.
I have purchased all of the other humble bundles before this one. It is real and they have Steam ones primarily, or mobile ones. Ordinarily they let you donate to childs play.
 

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This is a pretty cool thing, here's some spare codes if anyone wants. Quote if you grabbed one so people know.

Crysis 2 Maximum (steam) BVLU-8U2H-ER4G-WX7G-GETG
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Dead space 1 (origin) CAV5-9BBZ-6MA8-2MMK-ZHR2

Burnout Paradise (origin) 3CQG-AFBY-N8PG-GXZQ-N3FX

Crysis 2 (origin) F9ZH-GRZL-S8RM-TUNB-PSJL

Dead Space 3 (origin) 7PEE-7TDV-6XTS-Q3BM-M9JH

MoH (origin) 4FFF-9AD2-YEUF-J9MM-P44N

Mirrors Edge (origin) GBWE-GNL6-98PG-9A92-HUQQ

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The Sims 3

BVLU-8U2H-ER4G-WX7G-GETG for the main game

2DPP-AV67-99D9-MSX8-R4ZV and 2LHR-X24L-M3FN-JDU8-GSZL for the DLC.


And that's all folks.