- Apr 5, 2020
Don't agree. The DCEU isn't some paragon of quality, but the only film I can call a "dumpster fire" is BvS. Likewise, each film has kept to an established continuity. So even if I agreed with the dumpster fire sentiment, what's the point of rebooting it?Darth Rosenberg said:Well, yeah - the DCEU's a veritable dumpster fire. It's unsalvageable as far as a continuity with any vision or confidence goes, hence scrapping it and going again makes sense.
Yeah, okay, I'm not going to defend Batman & Robin, and history has validated giving the reigns to Nolan (and hey, I like his Dark Knight Trilogy myself), but few points in this scenario:Darth Rosenberg said:It's not a perfect parallel, but there was a gap of nine years between Batman And Robin and Batman Begins. Same character, entirely different expression with a real vision. Give the DCEU as a whole a break (that doesn't stop them doing smaller scale, perhaps riskier IP's in the meantime), then do it - ahem... - justice.
1) I'm not complaining, but there was no obligation to reboot the Batman films after Batman and Robin. Ever heard of Batman Triumphant, how it would have returned to the tone of the Burton films? Creatively speaking, there was no reason to reboot the films.
2) Even that aside, the DCEU is more than just Batman, so you're effectively throwing the baby out with the bathwater if you reboot it. You mention the trinity (more on that later), but at this point, what need is there? Everyone and their mother knows the origin stories of Batman and Superman (one piece of credit I can give the DCEU is that it thankfully skips a Batman origin story, and wisely goes with a veteran Batman), and Wonder Woman is the best film in the bunch. What's the point of doing another Wonder Woman origin movie when the one we have is pretty decent?
Except Justice League does have its own hero shot, and it does work in the scope of the movie. I mean, I don't think either JL or Avengers are "good" movies per se, but while Avengers is the superior film, JL still works, despite its many flaws.Darth Rosenberg said:I've never really liked the DC universe, but I'd love to see a great film focusing on just the trinity done well. Warner had the most famous and iconic superheroes in comicbook history and pissed it all down the drain, especially with BvS. They can never have that awesome hero shot The Avengers took years to earn, and that line-up - in terms of recognition and cultural impact - pales into insignificance to the trinity.