I Choose to Blow Dudes

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

So, if sexual preference is a choice...maybe I can convince you to be hetero?

 

[LetalisK]

Didn't Freud prove...

No. No, Freud didn't prove anything. Especially not in the scientific sense.

Yeah, I know he had... questionable methods and morals, but extensive study has been done on this particular issue and he was... well, not proven, but found out to be on the right track.

I can't think of anything off the top of my head of his that wasn't debunked later on or determined to be completely untestable. Even his psychoanalytic followers took that form of psychology in a very different direction. In modern psychology, even among clinical psychologists, Freud is generally considered important in a historical context for popularizing the study of psychology, but not much else. Leaning towards research psychology myself, I have a love-hate relationship with him. Edit: Mostly hate, though, so you know where I'm coming from.

 

[Kargathia]

Damnit, and there was me hoping this'd be an amusing bait-and-switch.

Seriously though, wouldn't it be more fun to repost this at the nearest forum for religious nutjobs? Since right now I'm getting the definite impression you're wasting your breath - most of us do not exactly need much convincing in order to support gay rights.

Hell, I'd rather we collectively forget about the whole "issue" anyway. As long as I'm not the one sharing the bed I really couldn't care less what gets your rocks off.

...Yes, that applies to you straight people as well. Stop telling me about your sex lives. Freaks.

 

[Mugen]

LoL dude it isnt 1995 anymore, no-one actually cares if you are gay. I personally find it annoying that peoeple need to justify their homosexuality, or shove it in your face (bad pun Here (Australia) the overwhelming consensus is that gay marriage should be legalized, and it probably will be come election time. so shut up, dammit, we are trying to be liberal! i don't know where you live, but the world is a lot better place for homosexuals than it has been, and will only continue to improve.

I don't post on internet forums such ridiculous things as I CHOOSE TO SMASH ZE PUSSY. If you really want equality, behave like a normal person, and WAIT FOR ALL THE BIGOTS TO DIE.

shouldn't be too much longer now.

so that's that sorted, i think Ive got time to sort out famine in Africa, if anyone still wants too?

 

[conflictofinterests]

Haters gonna hate, bro. If it's your choice, then they'll say you should CHOOSE to live according to "God's Will" instead of as an immoral heathen (see those of most any religion versus those of any other religion). If it's biologically determined, then they'll say you're biologically inferior to themselves (see white supremacy). Really, the problem isn't the 'cause' or 'source' of homosexuality but the fact that homophobes are homophobic.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

A to the fucking men. Or amen. I've been saying this for years. Why is it such an offensive concept to believe that homosexuality CAN be a choice? It's not like other people judging you or an invisible man in the sky is going to have any influence on your actions. Cynthia Nixon got in a lot of trouble for saying she "chooses to be gay."
http://www.seattlepi.com/ae/tv/tvguide/article/Cynthia-Nixon-Clarifies-Comments-Bisexuality-Is-2867938.php

And you know what? Every gay person on the planet chooses to be gay. Just like I "choose" to be heterosexual. Because you know what? Dating girls is a pain in the ass. Just today I picked up a girl at her house and ended up hanging out with her dad more while she got dressed than I ended up spending time with her. I really have to go out of my way to be in heterosexual relationships. I may have some sort of predisposition or preference for vaginas, but at the end of the day, I have to choose to leave my house and find a girl to talk to. Sexuality is not a passive thing. I say if you don't actually do stuff with your preferred gender, than you aren't whatever sexuality you proclaim to be.

 

[Loop Stricken]

I don't post on internet forums such ridiculous things as I CHOOSE TO SMASH ZE PUSSY.

It'd be a laugh, no doubt. I would too, but the pussies choose not to get smashed by me.

I wonder, if that thread existed, would it be full of gays posting messages of "good for you, what's the point"?

 

[artanis_neravar]

I say if you don't actually do stuff with your preferred gender, than you aren't whatever sexuality you proclaim to be.

And I can say my house is made out of solid gold, with Uranium trim, and we both be just as wrong

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Can you blame me? Have you been to a drag show, recently? Hilarious.

Nope. Cross dressing isn't funny, it's weird.

OT: Do what you please, I don't really care why you're attracted to who you're attracted to. Attraction is a whole mess of factors that is just left better untouched, so I side with you on this one. If you want to blow dudes then blow dudes.

 

[Bribase]

Just a couple of thoughts (cutting down to the relevant quotes to save space:

I resent the idea that homosexuality is some condition that is the ultimate result of some less-than-ideal condition in the womb or the environment or my genes or the function of my brain, or whatever. What if I just choose to suck cock? What if I just like dick better than pussy?

I happen to think of homosexual behaviour as aberrant behaviour (please don't confuse this with abhorrent or an abomination), it's not "normal" and who gives a fuck? To think that what most people do is the more moral thing to do is to say that slavery was a-ok as long as everyone kept slaves at the time.

You've also got to keep in mind that sexual drives aren't subject to human will for a lot of people. But if you make a choice to prefer cock it has some kind of underpinning in your brain whether you're aware of it or not; we are our brains. If the cause is genetic or has arisen from foetal develpment then so is your eye colour and which hand you're more dominant with. We don't cure the terminally green eyed or left handed and there is no need to "Cure" the gays.

The religious right argue that homosexuality is a "choice," and when public opinion was strongest against homosexuality it was certainly beneficial to point discover and highlight some of the possible origins for same-sex sexual attraction.

It's easy, tell them that Christianity is a choice. Thousands of people around the world (mostly people under 30) are leaving the church and religion in general. A great testament to the notion that religious thinking and the homophobic bile it entails can be conquered. This eclipses the number of people that attest to being "cured" of their homosexual drives by several orders of magnitude. They don't have to hate the gays any more, there is a way!

 

[zelda2fanboy]

Where exactly did you get the authority to override the actual definition? Why exactly do you feel the need to throw your own definition of it in when that isn't the real one?

I have a bachelors degree in Business Admin, so obviously I'm qualified to change the definitions of concepts and long held social norms. I presume the check for my services is already on its way. I just don't think preference deserves a name, especially when I was a virgin for 25 years. Actually being with girls is light years different from wanting to be with girls. I've been masturbating for so many years that I've quit watching porn. My ejaculatory fantasies have become so unsexual and off kilter, that it's hardly worth thinking that my "identity" is defined by what makes my penis function.

However, I date (and want to date) girls, so therefore I guess that makes me a "heterosexual." But believing there could never be a situation in which I'd have sex with a man is foolhardy at best, especially back when I wasn't dating anyone at all.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

And I can say my house is made out of solid gold, with Uranium trim, and we both be just as wrong

I'm arguing a concept, you're arguing a physical object. In any case, that's amazing! Can I come over some time?

 

[svenjl]

Kind of old hat really, this. What exactly is the point of this thread? I say, if you're happy and you know it suck a dick. For me...not so much thanks <:-/

 

[Filiecs]

Personally, I view your sexuality as something that your body assigns to you during puberty based on your genetics and past experiences and will almost always satisfy you. However, I also believe that there are people who are truly dissatisfied with their sexuality and, through sheer willpower, CAN change their sexuality if the TRULY want to. However, as long as no one is hurt, you can be whatever sexuality you want to be.

On the other side, whenever I see someone telling me "That's just who your are, you can't and shouldn't bother trying to change it" I call bullshit. If someone wants to change an aspect of themselves for whatever reason I do not believe that telling them they absolutely can't change who they are will help them in any way. To me, it reeks of Closed Mindset thought and encourages not taking responsibility for their actions and the idea that effort can be wasted. While it is true that some things are harder to change than others for different people, telling me that change is impossible I find downright offensive.

Trying to force someone to accept things because of "genetics" isn't going to work very well. You just have to civilly encourage people to be tolerant of harmless behavior and, in the end, everyone wins.

 

[Nimcha]

Man, this 'choice' thing is getting way out of hand. At this point any discussion on this subject just boils down to language ambiguity. One person can define the word 'choice' in a certain way and make a point and another person can define it differently and both points are almost aways equally (in)valid.


Also see: evolution theory.

 

[tobi the good boy]

Somehow I feel this is appropriate


OT: This thread has no real discussion value and you sound whiny, no one here cares if your straight, bi or gay.

 

[Loop Stricken]

I've been masturbating for so many years that I've quit watching porn. My ejaculatory fantasies have become so unsexual and off kilter, that it's hardly worth thinking that my "identity" is defined by what makes my penis function.

However, I date (and want to date) girls, so therefore I guess that makes me a "heterosexual."

Oh thank the Lord, I was worried I was the only one! my fantasies all tend to involve feelings and love and all this really WEIRD crap I didn't think they did outside of Japan!