Yep. Particularly the ones who think the harder job is in the kitchen.Tanis said:It's pretty obvious a LOT of posters in this thread have never held down a job, or at least not one within the 'service' industry.
Yep. Particularly the ones who think the harder job is in the kitchen.Tanis said:It's pretty obvious a LOT of posters in this thread have never held down a job, or at least not one within the 'service' industry.
Its amusing because we dont tip here in NZ. Since minimum wage is enforced everywhere and is actually pretty high. If you get tipped here you must of done REALLY good. Like my dad has tipped in a fancy restaurant of around 50 dollars(because thew waiter was awesome) and tipping like that is unheard of.Glongpre said:No you are right, I think people feel guilty if they don't, it has been ingrained as what you just do. I only tip if the person does a good job or whatever, but I don't eat out often either. So I could be way off.
Seriously? How can they force you? I go there all the time and quite often i dont tipA BigCup of Tea said:apart from frankie and bennys where you have no choice but to tip which i think is out of order, what if you get really shitty service!?shootthebandit said:I live in the UK were tipping is more of a courtesy. People in the service industry get at least legal minimum wage same as a lot of shop assistants who dont get tips
I will tip if the service is good or if I've got a lot of smash in my wallet i want to get rid of
Well it's different among people, because some are nicer and some have more money. I've heard %15 from my dad, but I don't think I'll be the kind of guy who tips. I don't eat out much to start because it's so much more expensive than just making food for myself, and I would be in no mood to pay more.Mersadeon said:So, how exactly does it work in the US? I hear a lot of differing accounts - most people seem to see 10% of the bill as being an appropriate tip.
I fully understand this and this is why i would tip a lot if i went to americaTanis said:Waiters, legally, can be paid WELL below minimum wage.
As a result in order for them to make minimum wage they NEED tips.
it may be for large groups only then..everytime I've gone it's been with 8 or so people and when we get the receipt it has our bill and then at the bottom it says included tip!shootthebandit said:Seriously? How can they force you? I go there all the time and quite often i don't tipA BigCup of Tea said:apart from frankie and bennys where you have no choice but to tip which i think is out of order, what if you get really shitty service!?shootthebandit said:I live in the UK were tipping is more of a courtesy. People in the service industry get at least legal minimum wage same as a lot of shop assistants who dont get tips
I will tip if the service is good or if I've got a lot of smash in my wallet i want to get rid of
Do you tip the kitchen crew?DVS BSTrD said:Dividing tips among the staff always seemed like bullshit to me: I tipped THIS guy because he did a job, the rest of them didn't earn it.Binnsyboy said:Which makes it quite disgusting when you find the manager of a place pocketing a large percentage of tips taken in before dividing among the staff. :IWickatricka said:Waiters pretty much live off those tips so think of it as helping out another human being in rough times. Anyone who has been a waiter will know that it is very helpful to tip good.
Think?Bruce said:Yep. Particularly the ones who think the harder job is in the kitchen.Tanis said:It's pretty obvious a LOT of posters in this thread have never held down a job, or at least not one within the 'service' industry.
Exactly, and that's the reason I don't tip. I'm not going to be guilt tripped into contributing to something stupid and immoral just because "society says so."shootthebandit said:But i said this last time the thread popped up. I have very little sympathy for people in the service industry in america. Sure its a very demanding role i certainly wouldnt be cut out for it but its their own fault they dont get paid well (not that they dont deserve to be paid well) because they are not doing anything to help themselves. Do you not have trade unions in america? Mass strikes need to be organised in the service industry even if only 50% went on strike it would have a huge impact. Wheres the groups lobbying to the goverment why arent people going to their MP (member of parliment) which i think you guys call a "senator" or "governor" or starting e-petitions. If its a large chain restraunt why arent people voicing thier opinion to the CEO or for smaller restraunts going to the manager. This is a very powerful group of people who could get a fair wage for themselves if only they done something about it
Simple. Actual quality of service has very little to do with how much people tip. Things like outside temperature, the color of the room, race, or the persons day have a MUCH bigger influence on tip size then how good a job they did. Hell, if a server has big breasts, the quality of their service is statistically insignificant. Splitting tips makes it less of a craps shoot.Toy Master Typhus said:But But...MUH SOCIALISM!DVS BSTrD said:Dividing tips among the staff always seemed like bullshit to me: I tipped THIS guy because he did a job, the rest of them didn't earn it.
We should everybody should be paid far amounts on, they all put in time at the restaurant and should be paid accordingly not on how well a customer likes them.