I have to go to MEPS tommorow, and I will not lie, knowing I may not have a career in the military.

[Slaanesh]

So I have talked to a recruiter(Army), took the ASVAB, all that crap. He pulled up a job for me. 13F, Fire Support Specialist. What really hooked me was that it has an Option 40, exactly what I wanted. For those of you that don't know, that gets me Airborne school and lets me try out for the 75th Ranger Regiment, bad asses of the Army. I am physically fit and would have another 6 months to even further my physical capabilities before going to basic.

But my recruiter told me that once I'm at MEPS, I should answer no to questions that would disqualify me from the army if I answered yes. He told me even the simplest stuff could disqualify me until I get a waiver. I know this guy is only looking our for himself and just wants to sign up another dude to meet his quota.

I will not lie to anyone at MEPS. I have had depression in Junior High and had to see a therapist. I was in a court room with a judge before. I have an irregular heart beat. All of this, he told me to lie about. I will not have this shit come back and bite me in the ass later(especially since I'm trying to get in Special Ops, they may do a very thorough background check). But from what I've heard, depression is an automatic "no no" from the army and I will not be able to enlist. Even if they get me a waiver down the line, the option 40 will no longer be available(I know these are a pain in the ass to get). So, I know at MEPS I will not lie about anything. And I know that once depression comes up, I have may have no career in the military. Special Ops is something I really want to do, mainly with the 75th Ranger Regiment. But that Option 40 won't be around for long.

I don't want to waste my time at MEPS knowing they won't let me enlist. Should I even go? What should I do?
And what the fuck captcha, hobby-horse again?

 

[Jedoro]

Go, but don't lie. You seem to have made up your mind, what's the problem?

 

[bobmus]

Depression back in Junior High, now treated, does not sound like something that should affect a career choice. An irregular heart-beat is hardly all that rare either, depending on how serious.
I say go for it, and best of luck to you.

 

[FilipJPhry]

Your depression is gone. Good. Don't lie. There are many people in the Army with disabilities and health defects. The guy is trying to make you look bad? Make him swallow his damn words and go for it.

 

[Slaanesh]

Go, but don't lie. You seem to have made up your mind, what's the problem?

Just really nervous about small crap holding me back.

Depression back in Junior High, now treated, does not sound like something that should affect a career choice. An irregular heart-beat is hardly all that rare either, depending on how serious.
I say go for it, and best of luck to you.

The possibility that it may really puts me on edge. The Option 40 is something I don't want to let slip up, I may have to wait nearly a year before I can get that opportunity again. And I there are no jobs here(civilian life) that I could think of doing and be happy. I want to make the Army my career.

Your depression is gone. Good. Don't lie. There are many people in the Army with disabilities and health defects. The guy is trying to make you look bad? Make him swallow his damn words and go for it.

As I've said, I'm worried that stuff in the past may prevent me from reaching my goals.

Thanks for the replies, leaving in about 30 minutes to talk to my recruiter again, then its off to the hotel.

 

[Thaa'ir]

A year is a year is a year. It's a long time, but it passes, and you are young. The opportunity will come.

Judging by your posts, lying will have a huge impact on your conscience...as it damn well should, especially because carrying the nagging fear that the military will catch you on it and screw you over will follow you.

Don't resort to dishonesty and don't make a big deal about it. Depression in middle school? Goddess, I remember junior high; I don't know many people who WEREN'T depressed then. And an irregular heartbeat? We'll see about that. Just tell them the truth and see how things turn out.

 

[Aoper]

Well, I don't want to dishearten you or anything, but I'll share anyways. I had a friend who went through the process at the same time as I did, but at MEPS he answered 'yes' to a question asking whether or not he had acne. He had to get a medical waiver, and his process was delayed by almost two months; because of ACNE. Everything went fine, of course. Also, I'm Navy, but I can't imagine it is too much different.

 

[Doclector]

So I have talked to a recruiter(Army), took the ASVAB, all that crap. He pulled up a job for me. 13F, Fire Support Specialist. What really hooked me was that it has an Option 40, exactly what I wanted. For those of you that don't know, that gets me Airborne school and lets me try out for the 75th Ranger Regiment, bad asses of the Army. I am physically fit and would have another 6 months to even further my physical capabilities before going to basic.

But my recruiter told me that once I'm at MEPS, I should answer no to questions that would disqualify me from the army if I answered yes. He told me even the simplest stuff could disqualify me until I get a waiver. I know this guy is only looking our for himself and just wants to sign up another dude to meet his quota.

I will not lie to anyone at MEPS. I have had depression in Junior High and had to see a therapist. I was in a court room with a judge before. I have an irregular heart beat. All of this, he told me to lie about. I will not have this shit come back and bite me in the ass later(especially since I'm trying to get in Special Ops, they may do a very thorough background check). But from what I've heard, depression is an automatic "no no" from the army and I will not be able to enlist. Even if they get me a waiver down the line, the option 40 will no longer be available(I know these are a pain in the ass to get). So, I know at MEPS I will not lie about anything. And I know that once depression comes up, I have may have no career in the military. Special Ops is something I really want to do, mainly with the 75th Ranger Regiment. But that Option 40 won't be around for long.

I don't want to waste my time at MEPS knowing they won't let me enlist. Should I even go? What should I do?
And what the fuck captcha, hobby-horse again?

I'm sorry, but they have very, very good reasons for such things. What if any one of these factors came into play in the field? It seems unlikely to me that they'll let you into the army, but go anyway. You never know, there may be a way for it to work, or they may have another position for you. Whatever you do, do not lie. As I said, anything you don't disclose now could become a problem, and in the army, you really don't want that, and maybe you should tell them about the recruiter. Not only will you be getting rid of that idiot, but they'll know you're honest, something I imagine is important in the military, trust can be everything.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

Yeah don't lie it'll just bite you in the ass, but he may be right.

I scored high enough on the ASVAB to get whatever job I wanted in the military and become a Stagg Sergent straight out. I was going to be a Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear (CBRN) Specialist.

Recruiter told me to lie about my eyes (they are -12, cut off is -8)

They found out and refused to give me the lassik. So I was booted out, despite my high scores and in demand specialty.

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It seems like if you are going to cost them money, they wont take you. Maybe I'm just cynicale over the whole thing. I was really offended.

 

[Slaanesh]

Forgot about this thread, heh.

Well, apparently I just need to get documentation of the counseling(times I visited the office, nothing more). They didn't give a crap about anything else.

Lost the Option 40, I just have to wait for another one to come up, hopefully it isn't too long. Could've been worse though, and it gives me more time to train on the bright side.

 

[Jedoro]

Awesome, it mostly worked out. Option 40 isn't the only way into the Rangers, anyway, so there's still a path.

 

[N7 Ruiz]

hey do not worry man Rangers are always looking for more people there an "artificial" elite unit (there not crap its just an artificial number they created because its supposed to be a bad ass unit) People get bounced out of Rangers all the time they need new and do not take this the wrong way ( was a military (army) brat I sort of know some of there crap especially since that's the only thing i could talk to with my dad anyways) and i'm trying to join the Marines so yeah I guess I'm stupid too.

Look You don't have to go to Ranger school to be a Ranger and the Rangers have a higher standard to carry them selves which is a way for them to bounce out people they don't want back into the divisions that beret looks nice but you just got to ask your self how much crap you want to deal with because all of your officers went to Ranger school because they are Crazy and if they offer you Ranger school do not take it its not a school its just Hazing and the school does not guarantee a spot in the 75TH.

Seals are the same way there failure rate is artificially created it should be only 50% not 80 or 90.

 

[Slaanesh]

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Thanks for your input and the info.

I know Ranger School doesn't get me a spot in the 75th. It's a leadership course that any other military branch of the US can attend(apparently it's not uncommon to have a few marines in the course). I'm pretty sure allied nations(UK, France, Germany, etc) can attend it as well. But the Option 40 would let me attend Ranger Assessment Selection Program, or RASP. This is what gets me into the 75th upon completion. I would attend Ranger School right after or down the line after I'm officially in the 75th.