"I know how to end misogyny. Ban women!" Fucking genius (I can't make a title facepalm)

manythings

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http://kotaku.com/5824084/well-thats-one-way-to-combat-misogyny-in-gaming

Just read this retardation and be amazed.

EDIT: Because so many posters don't actually get too far before posting a "Crusade against feminism" response apply the same logic to other issues.

Let's end racism by banning other races.
Let's end homophobia by banning gays.
Let's end the class divide by banning the poor.

Also a very good post after the original article brought to my attention by NeutralDrow:

First off, there are male only events all the time and no one cares. There are male only schools, male only clubs, male only sports leagues, etc. Heck, the Promise Keepers were huge for a long time back in the 90s and people's problem wasn't that they were male only but that they were kind of silly and hugged each other a lot. I think the problem here isn't that it's a male only event, but that they're claiming it's a male only event in an effort to fight sexism which is, frankly, dumb. It's actually completely caving to the sexists and then claiming you're doing it because they're wrong. Does not compute.

Secondly, what's missing from all the "how come it's only sexist when men do it" stuff is any kind of consideration of power. Men simply have more power in our society (and most societies) than women. It's not a numbers game (my fiancee went to a school that had a 70/30 women men split, but was it was super traditionally religious and run by openly sexist men and she remembers, despite women having the numerical advantage, it being a really hostile environment). If you're a man with a real man-hating woman for a boss, the odds are very much in your favor that she answers to a man higher up than her. If you're a woman with a real misogynistic guy for a boss, odds are that if there's a woman above him, she's it. It's dudes all the way to the top. As such, men often have a much easier time creating all male spaces. They might not be officially all male, hell, they might even be disallowed to say they're all male for some kind of legal reason, but the are de facto all male.

Which leads back to the LAN party. To me, the power issue here is, like I said, that they actually caved to the sexist guys they claim to be against. That's power! When someone says "I disagree with you, so I'll go ahead and capitulate to you?" Man, I wish people hated me like THAT. So, to be honest, I respectfully think your kind of missing the point here a bit. Men form all male-groups all the time, they just don't usually claim they're doing it to fight sexism, which, even if it had good intentions, is a little wonky.
 

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I'm not sure if combating misogyny with misogyny is productive but, to be fair, it did work for them.
 

Angry Camel

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Wow. They'd better hope the local feminists don't hear about this. This is like like hitting someone in the face, then forcibly removing the victim to let the abuser be more comfortable. Oh well, let's see how well this goes down for them.
 

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this seems to be solving a problem with the problem it is solving. I just realised that was a paradox
 

Hagi

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Because if there's one thing history has shown us it is that separation of two groups really leads to those groups respecting and understanding each other....
 

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If you don't like misogyny, then remove the misogynists. Not the women. You're just enabling the misogynists be rewarding them with a special getaway unless that getaway turns out to be one of those retreats that teaches everyone to understand and doesn't feature any BF3.
 

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Aaaw, I thought this was a reply-thread to that "Free Speech should be banned" thread.
 

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Angry Camel said:
Wow. They'd better hope the local feminists don't hear about this. This is like like hitting someone in the face, then forcibly removing the victim to let the abuser be more comfortable. Oh well, let's see how well this goes down for them.
The "local feminists" already have. The Border House has already covered the story. [http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=5811]

I have no words for how offensive is. If they want to make it a "boy's night out" that's fair enough - I have no problem with single-sex events - but to claim you're protecting people by banning women? You can't protect people by discriminating against them.
 

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Maybe instead they should ban misogynistic male-gamers. And seriously, if someone quotes me and says all male-gamers are misogynistic I will lose all faith in this website.
 

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Xzi said:
I'll go ahead and quote one of the comments on the Kotaku page:

"I'd like to point out that no one, more than likely, would raise a fuss if it was an all girls/women event. There's a lot of hypocrisy and double standard in the world of sexism."

There's a lot of truth to this, and the matter of fact is that it's a private function with a reservation fee. They have the right to do what they want.

Now personally, I don't see the point in attending an event such as this if the only people I can mingle with are male. But to each their own.
People would raise a fuss if when asked for the reason why men weren't allowed was:

"Nothing ruins a good LAN party like uncomfortable guests or lots of tension, both of which can result from mixing immature, misandrist female-gamers with male counterparts," the organizers originally wrote in an event FAQ. "Though we've done our best to avoid these situations in years past, we've certainly had our share of problems. As a result, we no longer allow men to attend this event.
 

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ms_sunlight said:
If they want to make it a "boy's night out" that's fair enough - I have no problem with single-sex events - but to claim you're protecting people by banning women? You can't protect people by discriminating against them.
Exactly. How did they not see the reaction they'd get...or were they counting on the publicity?
 

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*Repeatedly bangs head on keyboard.

Why are people this stupid? Ban women, that'll get you somewhere. Dead, by women bludgeoning them.
 

manythings

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Xzi said:
I'll go ahead and quote one of the comments on the Kotaku page:

"I'd like to point out that no one, more than likely, would raise a fuss if it was an all girls/women event. There's a lot of hypocrisy and double standard in the world of sexism."

There's a lot of truth to this, and the matter of fact is that it's a private function with a reservation fee. They have the right to do what they want.

Now personally, I don't see the point in attending an event such as this if the only people I can mingle with are male. But to each their own.
The issue is that instead of solving the problemby removing the "asshole" element they're solving it by removing the "victim" element. I would seek as many paying people as possible and weed out the pricks (from both genders) producing a better community because a good community is going to attract people who want in on a good community.

Also I do consider things that exclude men to be total bullshit like the insurance company that only insures women drivers.
 

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The idea of avoiding misogyny by removing women is moronic.

However, there's nothing wrong with having a guys only event.


But, on the other hand, if this was an event for women only for the same reasons few people would care. And while the reasoning behind it is a bit different, the basic problem is the same.


The only logical solution is to create a device that sounds an alarm every time a sexist person does something stupid. Then trained specialists would whack them on the head and leave them in the nearest dumpster... With a blanket to keep them warm, of course. We're not animals :)