- Oct 24, 2012
No one actually wants the planet destroyed. That's some Captain Planet level logic, and it's also an example of an extreme conclusion: that they just hate the environment. In reality the anti-environment people are either in the camp of knowing it's true, but they don't care because of profits, or are just too uneducated and ignorant to understand the facts. Unless they're in the KKK or Neo Nazis, it's incredibly unlikely that a bunch of gamers are actively against not having everyone look like a buzz cut white dude. What they are against is a group who waves their own brand of "diversity" around that demands everyone conforms to their opinion and attacks those that don't. Let's not forget, MovieBob and many other gamers started lamenting the loss of diversity long before this mess ever got started.Fenrox Jackson said:How is it extreme? Mind you there are people that are anti-environment in our world. They are not (just) against laws and environmental protections, they hate nature and want it destroyed. They are firing gleefully at the glass house where they live at the bottom of the sea. I would say that they are extreme, yet saying you are an anti-environmentalist does not conjure the same suicidal impression. I don't think it's far fetched or generalized when I say that someone who "stands up" to diversity is a small minded person, dare I say a bigot. If we keep thinking of terms like racism and bigotry as separate from ourselves, well, WE TURN INTO THEM. So no, not an extreme conclusion, some bigots know how to troll and write.Pinuyasha said:The most extreme conclusions are almost never the right answer. The fact that this thread was even made is a good indication that it's not.Fenrox Jackson said:That, that right there. It couldn't possibly be that all these people are small minded could it? Lets keep excusing and rationalizing things. Ducks most certainly aren't always ducks right? Yes, please continue with the infinite patience.Pinuyasha said:I'm going to take a guess that the OP isn't too good with expressing what his actual problem is with all the diversity stuff and it came out as him saying he doesn't like the diversity movement. I'm going to try to put your thoughts in better words, OP, so tell me if I'm right.
The problem isn't the diversity in itself. After all, it doesn't make a lot of sense why you would be against having some protagonists that don't look like they came out of CoD, unless you really are just small minded.
See that upload date? Feb 11, 2008. This is by no means a new topic. It just so happens that the cause has been picked up by a group of bad apples, and now we can no longer deal with it rationally. And the golden quote from MovieBob:
"The main hero, if and when you do see him, is going to be a scruffy, unshaven white guy..."
Funny how hearing the message from someone the gaming community actually respected vs. loudmouths and agenda pushers makes a HUGE difference in the response you get. Given how MovieBob's career and fan base has only gone up since 2008, who delivers the messages is incredibly important in this discussion. MovieBob is not allowed the say the same thing now without massive backlash due to it being now associated with the agenda pushers and extremists.