inFamous Developer: You Can't Do That on a 360

[Jumplion]

I didn't really understand the Processing Side of the PS3, just the graphics. Of course, Graphics are taken into part. Willing to enlighten me on Processing Power?

I'm no computer junkie, so take what I say with a grain or two of salt, but generally from what I've been told processors do a bit of everything, not just graphics. AI, framerate, textures, lighting, cutscenens ect...

Chris Zimmerman said nothing about graphics, only processing power, which is not just graphics;

"We made some really dumb decisions in [inFamous], but we've managed to fix them," he said in an interview with Play Magazine. "We had to tear a whole bunch of stuff up and put it back together. In technical terms the biggest thing that we've done is migrate a much larger part of our code to run on the SPUs. The PS3 has this elaborate architecture where there's a whole bunch of different places you can have your code run and we had it all running in the slow part."

 

[Nouw]

I didn't really understand the Processing Side of the PS3, just the graphics. Of course, Graphics are taken into part. Willing to enlighten me on Processing Power?

I'm no computer junkie, so take what I say with a grain or two of salt, but generally from what I've been told processors do a bit of everything, not just graphics. AI, framerate, textures, lighting, cutscenens ect...

Chris Zimmerman said nothing about graphics, only processing power, which is not just graphics;

"We made some really dumb decisions in [inFamous], but we've managed to fix them," he said in an interview with Play Magazine. "We had to tear a whole bunch of stuff up and put it back together. In technical terms the biggest thing that we've done is migrate a much larger part of our code to run on the SPUs. The PS3 has this elaborate architecture where there's a whole bunch of different places you can have your code run and we had it all running in the slow part."

I know that of course. Maybe I should of been clear that I was basing this on Graphics.

 

[IamSofaKingRaw]

Scratch that one then and add the Uncharted series, which are both better games

 

[13lackfriday]

And yet you can do it all on the [capable] PC.

Rememer how Crysis was too mutch to put on consoles, and now the sequil is coming out for both platforms, because they can BOTH handle it?

Crysis 2 on consoles will look fine, but it won't look like it will on a capable PC. Hell, Crysis 2 on consoles probably won't look even as good as the original Crysis on a capable PC.

"Capable's" the key word here...

PC Elitists need to remember that all the great things they espouse about superior performance/visual effects is the result of a whole lot of extraneous searching and spending for such upgrades that by no means is available to every gamer.

The great thing about consoles is that there's a universal equality to them, in the sense that when you buy that console you are more or less sharing the experience of every other gamer on that console, and for that reason they are much, much more accessible then buying a PC platform and joining the arms race to constantly upgrade and stay "current" with the latest hardware or game releases with ever higher and more costly demands.

 

[Zay5k]

Rage will prove him wrong

No joke.
Games look phenominal on both systems. Look at Rage, for example, which looks fantastic. Or Crysis 2, which also looks amazing. Both of which run fine on both systems. Poor flamebait marketing crap is poor.

Look at Halo: Reach. Look at those SPARTANs. They're beautiful!

Yes they do, but i don't think that their shiny armor provides a lot of detail to get wrong...

 

[inukedsesamestreet]

While I do agree that the Xbox is much better hardware then the PS3, the PS3 may have more processing power that games have really attempted to tape into that inFamous2 may be.

yet again, like someone said in a comment before, this sounds very official, sort of like a someone from Sony trying to say it has a much more power and pass of the PS3 as a better console.

Either way, am I glad that inFamous and Sucker Punch decided to stay Playstation exclusive because I need something to play while my brother hogs the 360 and my copy of Halo 3

 

[Mr. Doe]

Am I the only one who liked old Cole better? I think new Cole looks like a tosser.

 

[Zay5k]

Rage will prove him wrong

No joke.
Games look phenominal on both systems. Look at Rage, for example, which looks fantastic. Or Crysis 2, which also looks amazing. Both of which run fine on both systems. Poor flamebait marketing crap is poor.

Look at Halo: Reach. Look at those SPARTANs. They're beautiful!

Yes they do, but i don't think that their shiny armor provides a lot of detail to get wrong...

Huh? I'm sorry, that made no sense.

I'm sorry I'll clarify. Like rendering a shiny piece of metal does not seem as extreme to me as rendering something like fabric. Fabric has it's stitching to put in while metal is pretty flat.

 

[Zay5k]

Rage will prove him wrong

No joke.
Games look phenominal on both systems. Look at Rage, for example, which looks fantastic. Or Crysis 2, which also looks amazing. Both of which run fine on both systems. Poor flamebait marketing crap is poor.

Look at Halo: Reach. Look at those SPARTANs. They're beautiful!

Yes they do, but i don't think that their shiny armor provides a lot of detail to get wrong...

Huh? I'm sorry, that made no sense.

I'm sorry I'll clarify. Like rendering a shiny piece of metal does not seem as extreme to me as rendering something like fabric. Fabric has it's stitching to put in while metal is pretty flat.

This metal is scratched and used, so it does have lots of details.

I don't usually see that when i look at game footage. And hell I'm not a developer. I'm looking at it from a art perspective haha. Fabrics harder to draw than metal

 

[Warachia]

I officially call bullshit.

I'm no scientist, but I'm pretty damn sure that the Xbox and the PS3 can both handle the exact same things.

Next time, I hope they just say, "Yeah, screw Xbox, we like PS3 more."

Remember the Air Force buying a shitton of PS3s for processing power?, they didn't buy 360's for processing power.
I'd rethink that statement, lol.

they bought them for their "OTHER OS" OPTION, which has recently been removed. Reread the story and get back to us you ignorant fanboy.

 

[Canid117]

I officially call bullshit.

I'm no scientist, but I'm pretty damn sure that the Xbox and the PS3 can both handle the exact same things.

Next time, I hope they just say, "Yeah, screw Xbox, we like PS3 more."

Remember the Air Force buying a shitton of PS3s for processing power?, they didn't buy 360's for processing power.
I'd rethink that statement, lol.

While the PS3 does have more raw power, it also has a less efficient type of architecture than the 360. Which makes it harder to code on. having said that I doubt we have hit the ceiling on what either system is capable of. I would guess the games will keep getting bigger and better as devs continue to become even more familiar with their structure.

 

[UberNoodle]

I remember that old show 'You Can't Do That On Television', but despite the show's bold claims, they inevitably did do it all on television after all. I'd rather watch reruns of that than read more of the typical Ps3 developer boasting. What, is a it a contractual obligation to do it? You can't spell Sony without Ego. I usually put it in the middle. It's a 'silent' pair of sylables, but effect is rather loud and obnoxious.

 

[Calhoun347]

And yet you can do it all on the [capable] PC.

Rememer how Crysis was too mutch to put on consoles, and now the sequil is coming out for both platforms, because they can BOTH handle it?

Crysis 2 on consoles will look fine, but it won't look like it will on a capable PC. Hell, Crysis 2 on consoles probably won't look even as good as the original Crysis on a capable PC.

"Capable's" the key word here...

PC Elitists need to remember that all the great things they espouse about superior performance/visual effects is the result of a whole lot of extraneous searching and spending for such upgrades that by no means is available to every gamer.

The great thing about consoles is that there's a universal equality to them, in the sense that when you buy that console you are more or less sharing the experience of every other gamer on that console, and for that reason they are much, much more accessible then buying a PC platform and joining the arms race to constantly upgrade and stay "current" with the latest hardware or game releases with ever higher and more costly demands.

It's not like Capable hardware is that expensive. You don't need the latest and greatest. Mid-teir hardware is quite affordable and will do what you need, and then some.

It's not Elitism to state FACTS. The Fact is that games on my PC will look better than games on consoles.

Consoles may make all console owners equal, but two consoles are not equal. It's is a FACT that the Wii is less powerful than the 360, and the PS3, and that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360. There is still inequality.

And consoles are a limiting factor, they may be cheaper (Though not all that much cheaper, build your own and you can get a pretty good rig for as little as 500 bucks.) But you are stuck with the hardware. There is no upgrading. And this generation of consoles has been around for quite some time. While having only one type of Hardware makes it easier to optimize software for that hardware, eventually it will (and has) fallen behind what is possible with purely powerful hardware.

Also, It's not some sort of "arms race". For some reason Console gamers seem to think that PC gamers spend hundreds of dollars upgrading their PC's on an annual basis. But I don't, and I don't know any other PC gamers who do. I buy a new GPU every 3-4 years. Which falls almost in line with the length of the console generations prior to the current one.

I'm sorry you find it Elitist that my PC is more capable than your console, but I don't. There is nothing any console can do that my PC couldn't do. Consoles are just Gimped PC's. They cost less, but they do less. If some people find them more convenient then that's good for them. If you are happy with a console, that's great for you. I own a 360 and a Wii, and they serve their purpose.

 

[Xan Krieger]

And yet you can do it all on the [capable] PC.

Rememer how Crysis was too mutch to put on consoles, and now the sequil is coming out for both platforms, because they can BOTH handle it?

Crysis 2 on consoles will look fine, but it won't look like it will on a capable PC. Hell, Crysis 2 on consoles probably won't look even as good as the original Crysis on a capable PC.

"Capable's" the key word here...

PC Elitists need to remember that all the great things they espouse about superior performance/visual effects is the result of a whole lot of extraneous searching and spending for such upgrades that by no means is available to every gamer.

The great thing about consoles is that there's a universal equality to them, in the sense that when you buy that console you are more or less sharing the experience of every other gamer on that console, and for that reason they are much, much more accessible then buying a PC platform and joining the arms race to constantly upgrade and stay "current" with the latest hardware or game releases with ever higher and more costly demands.

It's not like Capable hardware is that expensive. You don't need the latest and greatest. Mid-teir hardware is quite affordable and will do what you need, and then some.

It's not Elitism to state FACTS. The Fact is that games on my PC will look better than games on consoles.

Consoles may make all console owners equal, but two consoles are not equal. It's is a FACT that the Wii is less powerful than the 360, and the PS3, and that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360. There is still inequality.

And consoles are a limiting factor, they may be cheaper (Though not all that much cheaper, build your own and you can get a pretty good rig for as little as 500 bucks.) But you are stuck with the hardware. There is no upgrading. And this generation of consoles has been around for quite some time. While having only one type of Hardware makes it easier to optimize software for that hardware, eventually it will (and has) fallen behind what is possible with purely powerful hardware.

Also, It's not some sort of "arms race". For some reason Console gamers seem to think that PC gamers spend hundreds of dollars upgrading their PC's on an annual basis. But I don't, and I don't know any other PC gamers who do. I buy a new GPU every 3-4 years. Which falls almost in line with the length of the console generations prior to the current one.

I'm sorry you find it Elitist that my PC is more capable than your console, but I don't. There is nothing any console can do that my PC couldn't do. Consoles are just Gimped PC's. They cost less, but they do less. If some people find them more convenient then that's good for them. If you are happy with a console, that's great for you. I own a 360 and a Wii, and they serve their purpose.

I fully agree with everything said here. It's like how I own an Xbox 360 for things like first person shooters while my PC runs real time strategy games. Each has it's specific purpose. I prefer a controller for my action games while a keyboard and mouse works better for an RTS. As for how long between upgrades, my computer was built 2 years ago and still runs the most modern games at the highest settings with no issues. I figure in another year then I'll start falling behind but it'll be another year after that before I even think of upgrading.

 

[Radelaide]

How come when he says that "xbox doesn't have the power of the PS3", he just sounds like a giant d-bag? Or is that just me?

 

[Zaik]

hey guys there's a really easy way to handle this. Two quick google searches reveals the following:

http://playstation.about.com/od/ps3/a/PS3SpecsDetails_3.htm
http://hardware.teamxbox.com/articles/xbox/1144/The-Xbox-360-System-Specifications/p1/

now we need someone who knows what half that crap means and translate it into english

 

[Sh0ckFyre]

"The Xbox can't handle such complex games"...

...Yet it can handle Crysis 2. WHERE'S THE LOGIC HERE.

Also, since when the fuck did graphics make a game. Honestly, Call of Duty 4 looked like rusty shit on a green platter. Hell, the original Metal Gear Solid from before 2000 holds up well today. Borderlands has a cartoon-like and non-revolutionizing graphics. Give or take DirectX 9, Bad Company 2 doesn't look anything special either, and let's not forget Resident Evil 5.

Also, if the fucking 3DS can handle graphics of Metal Gear Solid 4's caliber, I'm pretty sure the Xbox can handle PS3-specific games, given the right amount of optimization.