Inverted Y Axis: The Conspiracy

[Enigmatic_Apple]

I have come to the conclusion, a greater number of my friends last gen that owned Xbox and PS2 had a bigger chance of inverting the Y Axis on FPS games and my friends who only owned an xbox played invert.

Has anyone else noticed this? It's an over generalization but it's still funny to me.

I play invert by the way, transitioned out of PS2 to Xbox. Didn't play Shadow of the Colossus till this year. I'm a really bad person. I regret it very much so. (I had sold my PS2 randomly and bought an xbox with Forza, Jade Empire, and Mercenaries)

How do you play? Do you invert? What system did/do own last gen?




Bonus Questiono you know ANYONE that plays invert on PC?

 

[PurpleRain]

I hate invert. Up should be up and down should be down. Although invert is easier to fly a plane.

 

[shadow skill]

No I don't use inverted Y axis unless it is a game where flight is involved and I do not play those very often.

 

[Enigmatic_Apple]

Here is how I explain it to people.

Think of it as if the camera is in your chest, it pulls your spine down to look up, and pushes your spine up to force your sight down.

OR

Others have told me it's like you are pulling the gun back to look up and moving forward to look down.

I fly planes invert also.

It has to do something with the analog stick position on Xbox controllers. I swear I played regular UNTIL Xbox.

Then out of nowhere BAM invert!

And here we are.

 

[Citrus [deprecated]]

my friends played invert A LOT. but never on PS2 games. really only Xbox and the like.
I personally couldnt use the invert to well except on (of course) flight games.

 

[PurpleRain]

I mean I played Xbox and 360 and it never changed the way I use it. I don't know why people would change when they pick up a controler instead of a keyboard. Most odd.

 

[Kaisharga]

I used to play with inverted Y, but then a friend bought the Orange Box for use on another friend's 360, and the three of us played through Portal, swapping the controller between us every couple testchambers.

Of course, neither of them play with Y inverted, so I had to reacclimate. I got used to it, and it has since been easier for me to use Y-straight instead of Y-inverted, though I consider this a personal failing.

edit: I just looked at your name, Purple Rain. I'd just like to take a sentence to say that is an excellent pseudonym you have chosen.

 

[blackfly01]

I hate invert. Up should be up and down should be down. Although invert is easier to fly a plane.

I agree, though I have to say that invert Y axis should apply only to flight simulator games and not to First Person Shooters. Seriously, where's the logic in controlling a person like a plane?

 

[BonsaiK]

I play invert on PC, always. This comes from the days of playing flight simulators, where it seems more natural, because in a real plane you push a rudder forward to fly down, and pull it back towards your chest to pull up. I played flight sims long before FPS was even invented, and when the FPS finally came on the scene I was just used to invert by then, so I kept using it.

 

[Copter400]

My Dad plays invert. I don't. And you know, that was cool, that didn't inflict much on our rounds of Battlefront. But Brothers In Arms. Oh, man. Anyone who's played splitscreen should know that it lags. Lags, on a console. Also, either both players go invert, or both players go normal. That was the only bad thing about Brothers In Arms.

 

[The Irrelevant Gamer]

I always play inverted, and am mostly a PC gamer. I think it is because some of the earliest PC games I played were flight sims. Almost none of my friends play inverted.

I've seen some games where you actually invert the X axis as well. Now that's strange.

 

[Saskwach]

I only play inverted in flight games like many people here.

Here is how I explain it to people.

Think of it as if the camera is in your chest, it pulls your spine down to look up, and pushes your spine up to force your sight down.

OR

Others have told me it's like you are pulling the gun back to look up and moving forward to look down.

I've heard this reasoning and it's understandable but... we could also imagine that all images that pass through our optical lenses are inverted by the nature of the mechanics of lenses. In fact that's what our eye does. However, our brain knows that seeing everything upside down is just counter-intuitive so rights the image upwards for us. Sure it's possible to adapt to upside-down vision but it takes a sharp learning curve for no benefit.
Inversion is fine, of course, just odd.

 

[Kaisharga]

Inverting X makes sense when you apply it to camera control. And the same idea applies; are you controlling the direction your character looks, or are you controlling the motion of the camera behind the camera? One of my least favorite things about Castlevania: Curse of Darkness is that you can't change the X-axis direction of the camera.

And really, it's not the kind of thing we can say should always be inverted or not. But what we CAN say is that you should always, always have the option to change it.

 

[The Irrelevant Gamer]

When you put it that way, Kaisharga, inverting the X axis does make more sense. When I first saw the option I admit my reaction was, "Wha..?"

Enigmatic Apple's explanation of inverted Y axis makes sense for me. It is like pulling back on the zapper in light gun games.

The options should definitely always be there. Not being able to adjust the controls in a game is the quickest way to get me to throw it out the window.

 

[Atmosck]

I always play non-inverted for first-person games, regardless of the control situation (be it xbox, pc, whatever), but i always play inverted for flying games, be it a joystick, a keyboard, a gamepad, or however i have to play.

But with a wiimote it's completely different, becuase the controller moves in 3 directions instead of 2. Compare a flying game on wii, like Heatseaker, which is not inverted, to a PC flying game with a joystick which is inverted. It's nearly the same motion for the same result.

 

[GloatingSwine]

People who play without Y invert are perverts.

 

[shadow skill]

LOL we are not!

 

[Arbre]

I have come to the conclusion, a greater number of my friends last gen that owned Xbox and PS2 had a bigger chance of inverting the Y Axis on FPS games and my friends who only owned an xbox played invert.

Has anyone else noticed this? It's an over generalization but it's still funny to me.

I play invert by the way, transitioned out of PS2 to Xbox. Didn't play Shadow of the Colossus till this year. I'm a really bad person. I regret it very much so. (I had sold my PS2 randomly and bought an xbox with Forza, Jade Empire, and Mercenaries)

How do you play? Do you invert? What system did/do own last gen?




Bonus Questiono you know ANYONE that plays invert on PC?

I made the transition to invert for my first FPS on the PC, after having a very long habit of playing games with joysticks. It was natural to me.

 

[Kermi]

I've always inverted the Y-Axis on consoles. It feels more natural to me to do that, because pulling back on the thumbstick is like leaning backwards.

My fiancee thinks I'm a freak.