We'll lets see, Father's family is from Longford, Mothers family from Leitrim, born in Manchester but I have been living in the west of Ireland for 11 years, good enough?Verlander said:and nor are most people who claim to be. Unless you, or your parent was BORN in Ireland, AND grew up there, then you are not Irish, regardless of whom you ancestor may have been.
If it makes you happy, yesNinjamedic said:We'll lets see, Father's family is from Longford, Mothers family from Leitrim, born in Manchester but I have been living in the west of Ireland for 11 years, good enough?Verlander said:and nor are most people who claim to be. Unless you, or your parent was BORN in Ireland, AND grew up there, then you are not Irish, regardless of whom you ancestor may have been.
By the way it's St Paddy's day.Ham_authority95 said:I'm like 1/8th or something, but not enough to say that I'm "Irish". Even if I was largely Irish, I probably wouldn't live in Ireland or do any of it's culture besides St Patties day.
"White guy from the US" will do just fine.
Actually most of the people here meet your "requirements".Verlander said:If it makes you happy, yes
maninahat said:I was about to be furious, but then I read the OP and realised that this topic isn't as blatant a cultural faux pas as I thought.
The quickest way to get on my nerves is to start talking about genealogy, especially if you're an American. I don't know why, but they seem obsessed with the subject, and will often bring it up early in conversation without any prompting whatsoever. The best way to get on the nerves of an Irishman is for an American to refer to them self as "Irish". As far as I'm concerned, if you have absolutely nothing to do with a foreign culture, other than a distant relative who might have been from there, then you shouldn't be giving a shit about heritage. "Acting" Irish comes across as cultural appropriation. An affectation, and nothing more.
Well at least it proves that you're Irishsimilar.squirrel said:I am not strictly sober.Prince Regent said:Why would you formulate the thread title like that? "Irish: are any of you it?"
You could just as easily have asked used "Are any of you Irish?" or "Any Irishman out there?".
I know this is a small rant, but it just bugs me.
OT: No, I do sometimes drink Guiness though.
Yes, all of the "I'm a third" or "My grandfather was 100%" makes them all Irish.Ninjamedic said:Actually most of the people here meet your "requirements".Verlander said:If it makes you happy, yes
Thanks for putting that up before I freaked out that the OP.maninahat said:I was about to be furious, but then I read the OP and realised that this topic isn't as blatant a cultural faux pas as I thought.
The quickest way to get on my nerves is to start talking about geneology, especially if you're an American. I don't know why, but they seem obsessed with the subject, and will often bring it up early in conversation without any prompting whatsoever. The best way to get on the nerves of an Irishman is for an American to refer to themself as "Irish". As far as I'm concerned, if you have absolutely nothing to do with a foreign culture, other than a distant relative who might have been from there, then you shouldn't be giving a shit about heritage. "Acting" Irish comes across as cultural appropriation. An affectation, and nothing more.
There is no shame in being proud of one's family history. (unless you have a shitty family, of course.)Verlander said:Yes, all of the "I'm a third" or "My grandfather was 100%" makes them all Irish.Ninjamedic said:Actually most of the people here meet your "requirements".Verlander said:If it makes you happy, yes
Most of the people here aren't, and the folk from new world countries seem to have some sort of inherited patriotism for a place they have never been to. I laid out fair criteria, it could be said that you're only Irish if you're born and raised there. People need to be satisfied with who they are, and if we're lucky, ignore this ridiculous "pride" in a political measurement.
I wasn't born here, nor do I have a citizenship [I'm saving money for one at the moment]. But I grew up in Ireland, and I would consider myself to be Irish due to that.Verlander said:quote]
..it could be said that you're only Irish if you're born and raised there.
Boba Frag said:Why don't we have posters identifying themselves more clearly rather than giving us fractions and decimal points?
IE- Irish American- Irish grandmother, from New York etc etc>
OR
Actual residents of the island (North and South)
I wouldn't say that. I was born in the Czech Republic, but my parents are Irish, I'm an Irish citizen, I've lived here since I was 1 and I speak Irish. Probably nit-picking here, but saying you have to be born here is a little harsh (I agree with the fact you'd have to be raised here though).Verlander said:it could be said that you're only Irish if you're born and raised there.