Irish History Test
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Vikings, Cromwell, Potatoes, Independance, The troubles, Thatcher, a few more Troubles and then 2005 when the IRA "stepped down". Then an old guy had sex with a young women which has somehow caused everyone to start worrying again.
All I know, as a snarky British Imperial Oppression figure.
All I know, as a snarky British Imperial Oppression figure.
I'd outlaw radio in Ireland, it's uniformly horrible on every station at all times. And I want joe duffy to die a most horrible death.huckleberryhound said:
Oh, and my brother is one of those people who hates EVERY aspect of brittish culture. There's a lot of teenagers like that for some reason, it's kind of weird.
Irish models are great though, it's unintentionally hilarious when every freaking shoot is them endorsing a product on grafton street, in a bikini and high heels. Every single one! It's like aliens who have read vaguely about what modelling/photoshoots are about, and re-enact it in the crudest way possible.
*wipes tear from eye.*
Priceless...
Edit: 42nd post!
Most of what I know is that Irish historians are horrendously biased against Cromwell. He did some bad shit over there, but it's exaggerated.
From what I remember, the Irish were once an advanced, peaceful civilisation, who had flying cars and domed buildings as far as the eye could see. They were on the verge of a discovery that would have converted their entire population into sentient energy, when one of them discovered whiskey.
Outright Villainy said:
One of my favourite pictures in the world, one that tipifies the Skanger intelligence. It was Taken outside Croke park when England were due to play Ireland at Rugby.
LULZ!!
Before I post stuff about Irish is it cheating if I am Irish or is this for non Irish people?Diablo1099 said:
Our government once moved a load of Gaeilge-speaking Kerry people over to Meath, in the hope that the Irish language would spread and Irish would become the first language of Ireland. Too bad the Meath farmers had expected to get the land the Kerrymen were given, and so they ignored them when they arrived. The Kerrymen, not speaking much English, didn't really talk to many outside their own, and so the community never grew. It's still there, a pocket of Gaeltacht in the middle of Meath (though obviously they speak to the English speakers now).
Most Irish people can barely speak any though, despite being taught since we were 6. It's quite astounding really, how terribly it's taught in school. I learnt about 95% from going to the gaelteacht (irish only speaking summer colleges) for 3 weeks a year for 4 years.hubertw47 said:
I speak better Irish than most people i know, but I'm really bad at it now... (though i still call myself bilingual to look cool.)
I do find it strange that you wouldn't know any with Irish speaking parents, maybe they have that inherent Irish laziness too?
Potato famine, long bloody campaign for independence (Only to give it up to the EU, lol), regularly pillaged by Britain to get workers/builders/soldiers for the Empire.
Basically, I only really know about how Britain has screwed Ireland over the years.
Basically, I only really know about how Britain has screwed Ireland over the years.
Leprechauns live there, Hellboy fought The Golden Army there, which is hidden in The Giant's Causeway, it's called the emerald isle........um I think that's about it, oh wait I know that the dead rabbits gang from The Gangs of New York were all Irish immigrants from during the potatoe famine and such.
Oh and Irish people really like clovers.........especially one's with four leaves.
Oh and Irish people really like clovers.........especially one's with four leaves.
The O'Dubdha clan orginates from around the 6th century, heading the Uí Fiachrach tribe whom where dominant over the counties of Mayo and Siglo. The origins of this clan supposidly go back to the 4th century, and involve some chap called Fiachra, brother to Niall of the Nine hostages, whom i believe is the guy who brought St Patrick into Ireland, but i'm not sure. Anyway, the territory the O'Dubdha's owned became known as the Kingdom of Connacht, which the clan ruled for many centuries, reaching the height of their power in the 10th century, about which time the clan's name turned into it's modern form of O'Dowd, making it one of Europes oldest surnames still in use. The O'Dowd's fortified Connacht with some 200 small castles and also commanded considerable naval capability, so they were able to, with the help of other clans, to halt the Anglo-Norman invasion in the early Middle Ages.
The O'Dowd's kept their power until the 16th century, but where considerably weakend following the nine year war when a load of Irish clans attempted to liberate Ulster from the English. Cromwell's later invasion dealt the final blow to the clan, and the O'Dowds vanish from the history book.
No prizes for guessing my surname.
Edit: Could anyone with a knowledge of gaelic pronouciation tell me how Uí Fiachrach is prounced?
The O'Dowd's kept their power until the 16th century, but where considerably weakend following the nine year war when a load of Irish clans attempted to liberate Ulster from the English. Cromwell's later invasion dealt the final blow to the clan, and the O'Dowds vanish from the history book.
No prizes for guessing my surname.
Edit: Could anyone with a knowledge of gaelic pronouciation tell me how Uí Fiachrach is prounced?
I don't know that much about the Irish (and that's funny seeing as I am 75% Irish.) but whats there to know???.
But I am going to tell you one thing about their history, so if you hate to read boring stuff stay away from this.
But I am going to tell you one thing about their history, so if you hate to read boring stuff stay away from this.
In September 1845 a strange disease struck the potatoes as they grew in fields across Ireland. Many of the potatoes were found to have gone black and rotten and their leaves had withered. In the harvest of 1845, between one-third and half of the potato crop was destroyed by the strange disease, which became known as 'potato blight'. It was not possible to eat the blighted potatoes, and the rest of 1845 was a period of hardship, although not starvation, for those who depended on it. The price of potatoes more than doubled over the winter: a hundredweight [50kg] of potatoes rose in price from 16p to 36p. It is now known that the same potato blight struck in the USA in 1843 and 1844 and in Canada in 1844. It is thought that the disease travelled to Europe on trade ships and spread to England and finally to Ireland, striking the south-east first.
A blighted potato [12kB]The picture on the left shows what a blighted potato looks like. They have a soggy consistency and smell badly. Note that this picture was taken recently, showing that potato blight still attacks sometimes today.
The following spring, people planted even more potatoes. The farmers thought that the blight was a one-off and that they would not have to suffer the same hardship in the next winter. However, by the time harvest had come in Autumn (Fall) 1846, almost the entire crop had been wiped out. A Priest in Galway wrote "As to the potatoes they are all gone - clean gone. If travelling by night, you would know when a potato field was near by the smell. The fields present a space of withered black stalks." The Prime-Minister, Sir Robert Peel, set up a commission of enquiry to try to find out what was causing the potato failures and to suggest ways of preserving good potatoes. The commission was headed by two English scientists, John Lindley and Lyon Playfair. The farmers had already found that blight thrived in damp weather, and the commission concluded that it was being caused by a form of wet rot. The scientists were unable, however, to find anything with which to stop the spread of the blight. It was in 1846 that the first starvations started to happen.
In 1847, the harvest improved somewhat and the potato crop was partially successful. However, there was a relapse in 1848 and 1849 causing a second period of famine. In this period, disease was spreading which, in the end, killed more people than starvation did. The worst period of disease was 1849 when Cholera struck. Those worst affected were the very young and very old. In 1850 the harvest was better and after that the blight never struck on the same scale again.
The precise number of people who died is perhaps the most keenly studied aspect of the famine: unfortunately, this is often for political rather than historical reasons. The only hard data that has survived is the 1841 and 1851 censuses, but the accuracy of these has been questioned. The reason for this is that the censuses recorded deaths by asking how many family members died in the past 10 years, but after the famine whole families had often left Ireland thus leaving many deaths unreported. It was argued by Edwards et al. that the precise number of deaths is of secondary concern to simple fact that a very many people died. Suffice it to say that estimates of deaths in the famine years range from 290,000 to 1,500,000 with the true figure probably lying somewhere around 1,000,000, or 12% of the population. We shall probably never know exactly how many lost their lives. It was undoubtedly the greatest period of death in Irish history, but its long term effects were to involve even more people than this.
In the years after the famine, scientists discovered that the blight was, in fact, caused by a fungus, and they managed to isolate it. They named it Phytophthora Infestans. However it was not until 1882, almost 40 years after the famine, that scientists discovered a cure for Phytophthora Infestans: a solution of copper sulphate sprayed before the fungus had gained root. At the time of the famine there was nothing that farmers could do to save their crop.
A blighted potato [12kB]The picture on the left shows what a blighted potato looks like. They have a soggy consistency and smell badly. Note that this picture was taken recently, showing that potato blight still attacks sometimes today.
The following spring, people planted even more potatoes. The farmers thought that the blight was a one-off and that they would not have to suffer the same hardship in the next winter. However, by the time harvest had come in Autumn (Fall) 1846, almost the entire crop had been wiped out. A Priest in Galway wrote "As to the potatoes they are all gone - clean gone. If travelling by night, you would know when a potato field was near by the smell. The fields present a space of withered black stalks." The Prime-Minister, Sir Robert Peel, set up a commission of enquiry to try to find out what was causing the potato failures and to suggest ways of preserving good potatoes. The commission was headed by two English scientists, John Lindley and Lyon Playfair. The farmers had already found that blight thrived in damp weather, and the commission concluded that it was being caused by a form of wet rot. The scientists were unable, however, to find anything with which to stop the spread of the blight. It was in 1846 that the first starvations started to happen.
In 1847, the harvest improved somewhat and the potato crop was partially successful. However, there was a relapse in 1848 and 1849 causing a second period of famine. In this period, disease was spreading which, in the end, killed more people than starvation did. The worst period of disease was 1849 when Cholera struck. Those worst affected were the very young and very old. In 1850 the harvest was better and after that the blight never struck on the same scale again.
The precise number of people who died is perhaps the most keenly studied aspect of the famine: unfortunately, this is often for political rather than historical reasons. The only hard data that has survived is the 1841 and 1851 censuses, but the accuracy of these has been questioned. The reason for this is that the censuses recorded deaths by asking how many family members died in the past 10 years, but after the famine whole families had often left Ireland thus leaving many deaths unreported. It was argued by Edwards et al. that the precise number of deaths is of secondary concern to simple fact that a very many people died. Suffice it to say that estimates of deaths in the famine years range from 290,000 to 1,500,000 with the true figure probably lying somewhere around 1,000,000, or 12% of the population. We shall probably never know exactly how many lost their lives. It was undoubtedly the greatest period of death in Irish history, but its long term effects were to involve even more people than this.
In the years after the famine, scientists discovered that the blight was, in fact, caused by a fungus, and they managed to isolate it. They named it Phytophthora Infestans. However it was not until 1882, almost 40 years after the famine, that scientists discovered a cure for Phytophthora Infestans: a solution of copper sulphate sprayed before the fungus had gained root. At the time of the famine there was nothing that farmers could do to save their crop.
What are you on about, the Scots fought.Reaper93 said:
Edit: looked it up, they actually won. Point still stands that they fought.