Is anyone else getting reboot fatigue?

Recommended Videos

DefunctTheory

Not So Defunct Now
Mar 30, 2010
6,437
0
0
WolvDragon said:
Batman and Superman got rebooted, and how did X-Men get rebooted? Last I check it Days of Future Past actually was the series 4th X-Men movie to a degree. Star Wars isn't getting rebooted, it's basically continuing where ROTJ left off. Hollywood is basically creatively bankrupt like the video game industry.
X-Men got a soft reboot - Time travel shenanigans practically reboot the universe, but all the old movies happened.

They did it to invalidate all the old, crap X-Men movies, without forcing complete recasting and starting all over again. Worked pretty well I think.
 

Hawki

Elite Member
Legacy
Mar 4, 2014
9,651
2,183
118
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
I think "reboot" is being thrown around very liberally here. But for the above examples:

-Stargate: I'm meh about it. The thing is, on the one hand, I like SG-1 (and Universe, not so much Atlantis). On the other, it always felt like less of a continuation of the movie and more its own thing. Never mind that SG-1 retconned the novels and comics that followed the movie in its own timeframe, never mind that it changed details from said movie (e.g. making Abydos the closest planet to Earth rather than in the Kalim galaxy, not to mention the whole goa'uld/Jaffa thing), but the tone feels different, the characters feel different, it feels...well, different. Not saying this is bad, and part of the reason I like Universe is that it actually did do things differently rather than being a palatte swap like Atlantis was. So, I'm actually optimistic about the Stargate films. I'd like to see Stargate films done in the style of the original, which, as solid as SG-1 was, was most certainly not in the same style.

-Star Wars: Retconned, not rebooted (referring to the EU). Yeah, it sucks, but I can live with it.

-Fantastic 4: Less a reboot, and more "we need to keep the rights." I'm not denying reboots can be cynical in their intent, but Fox's cynicism actually goes a step beyond. And this is from someone who actually found things to like in said film, even though it's a broken one for all intents and purposes.

-Star Trek: Not a reboot. Star Trek 2009 is to Star Trek Prime what SG-1 is to the original movie - a jumping off point to do something different, only with the levels of fan favor reversed. But Star Trek is still going in the Prime universe (e.g. STO), and Star Trek allows the provision for alternate universes (e.g. the mirror universe), even if time travel hasn't previously created a new reality (to my knowledge). And speaking personally, I like the two Abrams films. They were my first proper introduction to the setting, and were a gateway for me getting into the old shows (e.g. TNG and TOS). Beyond looks like utter bollocks, but if you operate under the principle that the Abramsverse was made to attract people not previously into Star Trek, then, castrate me if you want, but I'm one of the dirty pleebs that it succeeded in sucking in.

-X-Men: Not a follower of the films, but does it really count as a reboot? The timeline had a number done on it, but it was done in an in-universe manner.

-Batman: We went from Batman and Robin to the Nolan trilogy. I dare anyone to call that a negative. However, does this count as a reboot? Comics have multiple takes on the same character. Branching out a bit, suppose another adaptation of Lord of the Rings came out. Would it be a reboot of Jackson's films? No, anymore than the Jackson films were a reboot of the Bashki version. Same source material, different interpretation.

-James Bond: We went from Die Another Day to the likes of Casino Royale, Skyfall, and yes, even Spectre (sorry QoS). Honestly, I can't fault this move at all given the results we got.

-Spider-Man: I don't really consider a reboot, in the same vein that, like Batman, it's a different story in a new setting on the same character. That said, ASM1 was utter tripe (never saw its sequel), so I call this a negative (on the other hand, I don't think the Rami trilogy needed continuation - it ended at a perfect point to end the overall story). And since Spidey's found his way into the clutches of the MCU...sigh...

But the Rami films were kickass. Even if the weakest of the trilogy, I even like Spider-Man 3 as a net positive.

-Terminator: Genisys is an odd one. It's clearly not in the same timeline as T3/4. Yet in a hypothetical sequence of T1-2-Genisys, it doesn't quite match up either. Even John saving Kyle differs from how Reese puts it in T1. Since it's well established that the Terminator series has multiple timelines, I actually see Genisys as more of a side story. Its own timeline which spawns a separate timeline, completely separate from anything else. Yes, the same events occur, but not in the same continuity, if that makes sense.

And, unpopular opinion time, I loved it. Heck, I hold it as being the third best in the series after T2 and T1. Yeah, in an ideal world there'd be a proper finish within the movies to the saga, but taking Genisys by itself, separate from them, I thought it was good. And we've seen Skynet be defeated in EU material before, so I can live without seeing it in the movies.

-Superman: Again, not calling this a reboot per se, due to how comic movies work (multiple tellings of the same story). This being a reference to Man of Steel...um...I thought it was okay. Yes, in the realm of fan wars that wage to this day, I'm plonked in the middle. Still enjoyed it though, but when the only other Superman films I've seen were SM4 and Returns, well, guess I don't have much to compare it to.
 

renegade7

New member
Feb 9, 2011
2,046
0
0
Yes, rebooting my computer can be very tiring. I'm getting old and my 22 years are wearing on me, I just don't have the vitality that I used to, I can't keep up with you young whippersnappers and your USB3.0 boot utilities and your UEFIs and GPT drive tables.
 

DementedSheep

New member
Jan 8, 2010
2,654
0
0
Not really. I don't get fatigued because I don't watch them if I'm bored of it and I'm not that into tv and movies anyway. Since someone mentioned Dredd, the most recent Dredd movie is the only one I've watched so it doesn't feel like a reboot to me. Although I don't really see that as a reboot anyway, since it is just adapting the same source material differently.

AccursedTheory said:
WolvDragon said:
Batman and Superman got rebooted, and how did X-Men get rebooted? Last I check it Days of Future Past actually was the series 4th X-Men movie to a degree. Star Wars isn't getting rebooted, it's basically continuing where ROTJ left off. Hollywood is basically creatively bankrupt like the video game industry.
X-Men got a soft reboot - Time travel shenanigans practically reboot the universe, but all the old movies happened.

They did it to invalidate all the old, crap X-Men movies, without forcing complete recasting and starting all over again. Worked pretty well I think.
So they did they did the marvel/DC method of rebooting with time travel? fitting.
 

Zhukov

The Laughing Arsehole
Dec 29, 2009
13,757
5
43
Not really.

I mean, I'm no more fatigued by reboots specifically than I am by just bad movies in general.

I'm pretty sure a sizable proportion of media being shit is basically a fact of life. Can't see why I'd get "fatigued" by it.
 

Kolby Jack

Come at me scrublord, I'm ripped
Apr 29, 2011
2,518
0
0
I don't see much difference between taking a popular 70's/80's/90's kids show/sci-fi series/toy line and making a movie about it and taking a classic fairy tale/novel/historical event and making a movie about it. "Reboots" are just what's hot right now, and we've gotten some pretty awesome stuff out of it. Meanwhile, plenty of original stories are getting created thanks to crowdfunding and the indie boom... media in general is at a level never seen before. How can you not be happy with that?
 

Parasondox

New member
Jun 15, 2013
3,229
0
0
Happyninja42 said:
And I would disagree with the statement that the Stargate tv show was better than the movie. xD I couldn't stand that show, or it's offshoot Atlantis. Only one that I could stomach was the one where they were stuck on the starship travelling through space. Whose name escapes me at the moment. Stargate: Universe? Eh, whatever it was called.
You mean Stargate Universe that tried to be Battlestar Galactica? With the tone, the mood, the weird cam shots. Difference is, the characters were uninteresting, boring, couldn't relate too, couldn't care about and the only interesting thing on that show was the ship. THE DAMN SHIP!
 

Vanilla ISIS

New member
Dec 14, 2015
272
0
0
How can they stop rebooting stuff?
TMNT made $500 million and Jurassic World made $1.6 billion so there's definitely a market for this.

How about that Point Break remake that comes out a week after SW7?
How about that Ghostbusters remake next year?

How about these remakes/reboots coming soon?
- XXX
- Tomb Raider
- Jumanji
- Gremlins
- The Crow
- The Mummy
- Westworld (TV series)
- Highlander
- Beauty and the Beast
- Ben Hur
- Big Trouble in Little China
- The Birds
- The Craft
- Dumbo
- Flash Gordon
- Friday the 13th
- A Nightmare on Elm Street
- It
- Conan
- The Magnificent Seven
- Masters of the Universe
- Police Academy
- Power Rangers
- Predator
- Road House
- Starship Troopers
- Zorro
and many more.

Aren't you all excited?
 
Dec 16, 2009
1,774
0
0
I've been beyond fatigue for a long time.
Vanilla ISIS said:
How can they stop rebooting stuff?
TMNT made $500 million and Jurassic World made $1.6 billion so there's definitely a market for this.

How about that Point Break remake that comes out a week after SW7?
How about that Ghostbusters remake next year?

How about these remakes/reboots coming soon?
- XXX
- Tomb Raider
- Jumanji
- Gremlins
- The Crow
- The Mummy
- Westworld (TV series)
- Highlander
- Beauty and the Beast
- Ben Hur
- Big Trouble in Little China
- The Birds
- The Craft
- Dumbo
- Flash Gordon
- Friday the 13th
- A Nightmare on Elm Street
- It
- Conan
- The Magnificent Seven
- Masters of the Universe
- Police Academy
- Power Rangers
- Predator
- Road House
- Starship Troopers
- Zorro
and many more.

Aren't you all excited?
In their defense, some of them are straight up sequels?
 

DoPo

"You're not cleared for that."
Jan 30, 2012
8,663
0
0
Vanilla ISIS said:
TMNT made $500 million and Jurassic World made $1.6 billion so there's definitely a market for this.
Jurassic World wasn't a reboot.
 

Something Amyss

Aswyng and Amyss
Dec 3, 2008
24,756
0
0
Are we redefining reboot to mean anything in a franchise now? Because a lot of the examples aren't reboots.

And no, because I'm in my 30s and I know that this so-called "unoriginality" culture has been around a lot longer than I have.
 

DoPo

"You're not cleared for that."
Jan 30, 2012
8,663
0
0
Something Amyss said:
Are we redefining reboot to mean anything in a franchise now?
I guess? I dunno, maybe I'm getting out of touch with slang but looke like people here did understand "reboot" differently to me.

It doesn't help that every time I see the word

this comes to mind first

before I remember any other meanings.
 

Nazulu

They will not take our Fluids
Jun 5, 2008
6,238
0
0
Fucking ages ago! Became sick of the reboots and sequels in 2007 or somewhere around then. I'm just waiting till everyone else does.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind all the reboots if most of them didn't suck ass.
 

Something Amyss

Aswyng and Amyss
Dec 3, 2008
24,756
0
0
DoPo said:
It doesn't help that every time I see the word

this comes to mind first

before I remember any other meanings.
I was thinking of making a ReBoot joke myself. Love that show. And people have called the movies that were going to continue the series a ReBoot, which atually sort of brings this full circle.

It's down to a single movie, last I knew. And it was due out in 2012. But still.
 

Cid Silverwing

Paladin of The Light
Jul 27, 2008
3,133
0
0
It's not just movies that are getting rotted by reboots. Games are getting exactly the same treatment too. I mean, Prince of Persia, anyone?

Reboots need to fuck right the hell off and not come back until they get done properly - to fix shit that didn't work.
 

DoPo

"You're not cleared for that."
Jan 30, 2012
8,663
0
0
Vanilla ISIS said:
Mr Ink 5000 said:
In their defense, some of them are straight up sequels?
DoPo said:
Jurassic World wasn't a reboot.
A sequel made long after the franchise died is often referred to as a soft reboot.
Never heard that term. To me, it just sounds wrong.
 

Something Amyss

Aswyng and Amyss
Dec 3, 2008
24,756
0
0
DoPo said:
Never heard that term. To me, it just sounds wrong.
A soft reboot is generally more when they take some of the continuity and not the rest anyway.

Say, for example, "New Who." This is sometimes considered a soft reboot not because of the time lapse but because of the fact that it has changed parts of continuity while still keeping some. Christopher Eccleston is not the First Doctor, but the Ninth (even if John Hurt screws with that), and many of the events from the past show still happened. The continuity and rules have changed, though--some for the better, some for the worse.

This exists notwithstanding any other praise or complaints about Doctor Who, BTW. I'm simply giving it as an easy example.
 

happyninja42

Elite Member
Legacy
May 13, 2010
8,577
2,994
118
Something Amyss said:
DoPo said:
Never heard that term. To me, it just sounds wrong.
A soft reboot is generally more when they take some of the continuity and not the rest anyway.

Christopher Eccleston is not the First Doctor, but the Ninth (even if John Hurt screws with that),
John Hurt can screw with anything he likes, the man is fantastic to me. Even in terrible movies, he's the shining gem of awesomeness that you can always enjoy. xD
 

DoPo

"You're not cleared for that."
Jan 30, 2012
8,663
0
0
Something Amyss said:
DoPo said:
Never heard that term. To me, it just sounds wrong.
A soft reboot is generally more when they take some of the continuity and not the rest anyway.
Ugh, this just sounds like a bad sequel then. I certainly never thought of Blood Omen 2 as a "soft reoboot". More like "filled with plotholes and inept writing", yet it also does technically take some of the continuity and not the rest.