Is photoshop art?

[kwaker]

In another forum I at was recently I got myself into a bigg discusion about photoshop and whether its art or not.
The people that though it isnt art said that u dont make anythink u modify it, wich I think is huge bullcrap. Even the people dat copy existing images and change them add there own touch to it. And dont forget the speedpainters on youtube I've seen the craziest things there. Some people are so good at it they can practically make pictures out of free hand.

So what do you think is it art or isnt it?

Edit: After someone kindly told me my post was vague (he was right) ill put a little edit here. Is the stuff that can be made in photoshop art not the program but the things that can come out of it.

 

[Inverse Skies]

Of course. We used to use it for graphic design back in high school. It's an artform to be able to use it properly, and you can get some truly fantastic pictures and/or designs out of it.

Of course it's art, art is a broad term anyway which encompasses quite a lot of areas so not placing photoshop under that banner seems a little strange to me.

Aside: Interesting way of spelling you have there.

 

[traceur_]

of course it is, it kicks the crap out of reality, try googling "worth1000" it's a site dedicated to awesome photoshop

 

[kwaker]

Of course. We used to use it for graphic design back in high school. It's an artform to be able to use it properly, and you can get some truly fantastic pictures and/or designs out of it.

Of course it's art, art is a broad term anyway which encompasses quite a lot of areas so not placing photoshop under that banner seems a little strange to me.

Aside: Interesting way of spelling you have there.

Yea I cant help it english isn't really one of my better classes in school xD. Ure more than welcome to correct it for me.

 

[GothmogII]

Having gone through 2 1/2 years in a college of art & design, I'm legally bound to say yes. However, whether or not it's easier than picking up a pen and paper is debatable. I mean the truly technical brilliant stuff takes a lot of time and effort, but at the same time, there a lot's of lazy people who can simply click some buttons around, add a few filters and still come out with something visually respectable.

 

[Inverse Skies]

Yea I cant help it english isn't really one of my better classes in school xD. Ure more than welcome to correct it for me.

I don't think I need to correct it per se, just making a note of it because some people can take offence to poor spelling and grammar around here. The grammar part is pretty good

 

[fix-the-spade]

Most people who say digital art is not art (or does not need talent) say so because they neither understand nor are they able to use said programs.

By extension they are idiots.

As is anyone who discounts something's worth because they fail to understand it.

 

[sooperman]

I think that photoshop is art. It is really incredible to see some of the things that people can do with photoshop. Add their own touch to a picture, buff a picture out and restore it, or completly morph the picture into their own creation. And every time photoshop gets an upgrade, the posibilities grow and the art becomes more artistic than it was before photoshop came along.

 

[Shadow Law]

Many things can be considered art now a days but is photo shop any less artistic then simply picking up a bucket of paint and chucking it at a wall and calling it priceless piece of art?

 

[zen5887]

Ack.. The OP was quite hard to read.

Anyway I totally think it is art, I myself have not just manipulated pictures (which I think is my best 'shop related skill) but have created images from scratch. Whats more is a lot of people take their own photos to manipulate.

 

[Blind0bserver]

I'm an artist and a photographer, but even still I'm going to say it depends.

This, for example, is art:

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This obviously is not:

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The only time I don't consider Photoshop art is when some ingrate hastily and clumsily pastes two pictures together "for the lulz". Any other time, though, it's art.

 

[Fronken]

By definition: Yes
Personal Opinion: No

When it comes to art the only one i think of as real art is paintings and illustrations done by hand, cause it's the only one that takes actual talent to make something good, photography anyone can do well, same with photoshop, all you need is a quick tutorial and some time and you can create really stunning pictures using photoshop, but it never takes any talent, same with photos, of the friends i speak with on a daily basis about 5 of them are self-proclaimed photographists, and sure, they take a couple of nice photos using filters and different angles and stuff, but anyone can do that with the right equipment.

Hand-drawing on the other hand is something not everyone can do well, i know myself after trying really hard to become good at it, i failed miserably, much like just about all my mates did, so drawing by hand takes talent.

 

[fix-the-spade]

When it comes to art the only one i think of as real art is paintings and illustrations done by hand, cause it's the only one that takes actual talent to make something good, photography anyone can do well, same with photoshop, all you need is a quick tutorial and some time and you can create really stunning pictures using photoshop, but it never takes any talent, same with photos,

Read my first comment, you personify it.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Depending on how its done. If you use it for stuff like this, then no:

 

[ace_of_something]

Art is any interpriation of the human experiance or observation. So yes.
But most photoshopping is really stupid.

I'd rather question if taking a dump in a jar is art. I'd look up an old article on that but I fear what I might find.

 

[DragunovHUN]

The people that though it isnt art said that u dont make anythink u modify it

They say that because that's all they can wo with it. They don't realize that some people can make stuff from scratch instead of just slapping some filturz on.

Let me show you something. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu40FLvBSDE

Go back to those people and show them this, then ask what did THAT GUY modify? Damn right he modified a white background into The Darkness monsters. How is this in any way less than painting on canvas?

(in case you're wondering that's off the game disc, shows real artwork for the game done by the developers)

 

[Baby Tea]

Most people who say digital art is not art (or does not need talent) say so because they neither understand nor are they able to use said programs.

By extension they are idiots.

As is anyone who discounts something's worth because they fail to understand it.

Absolutely.
Art is an expression or a message, not a method.

 

[Ago Iterum]

Depending on how its done. If you use it for stuff like this, then no:

That picture (Minus the big mouths) is swimming around loads of forums. What is it?!

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Depending on how its done. If you use it for stuff like this, then no:

That picture (Minus the big mouths) is swimming around loads of forums. What is it?!

Just google this:

so cash

 

[Neesa]

Having gone through 2 1/2 years in a college of art & design, I'm legally bound to say yes. However, whether or not it's easier than picking up a pen and paper is debatable. I mean the truly technical brilliant stuff takes a lot of time and effort, but at the same time, there a lot's of lazy people who can simply click some buttons around, add a few filters and still come out with something visually respectable.

I agree with you. Someone that doesn't have a strong artistic background or comprehension of it, can easily get a hold of Photoshop and copy and paste a picture and alter it. Eh... That's cool I guess, but if you can't physically do anything with pen and paper, eh... To each their own.

Most people who say digital art is not art (or does not need talent) say so because they neither understand nor are they able to use said programs.

By extension they are idiots.

As is anyone who discounts something's worth because they fail to understand it.

Digital art is it's own form of art if done seriously. Some things that they do can be amazing. Especially illustrators that just scan their images and then color them in Photoshop. Man, some of the things they can do is awesome. But saying that people that don't agree with it are "by extension they are idiots" is putting a generalization on a personal opinion. But even people that do art might not consider digital art "real" art because it wasn't done by hand.

I'm an artist, gone to art school, still do art... And there's one thing that all my art professors said that has traditional artist (those that still do art by hand) has a one up on digital artist, their personal signature. Every person has a certain stroke when they draw. I might hold my pen weird and press harder onto it while someone else can try to draw it the same way but they apply pressure different. Even if you trace over someone else's work, you can't copy their strokes and pressures verbatimly. Even if you're one of those crazy painters that can copy an original, people with a professional eye can tell the difference.

I'd rather pick up a pencil before I pick up my tablet.