Is Resident Evil zero or REmake more difficult?

[dscross]

Just ran through REmake on PS4. I fucking love that game, It starts off really difficult on the upper (normal) difficulty with Chris but gets much easier as you get more items. I remember finding Zero more frustrating to run through in terms of backtracking and item dropping, but easier in terms of ammo. Don't know what you guys think. I might run through Zero again... but not if it's as frustrasting as I remember. I loved it at the time...

 

[Hawki]

Disclaimer that it's been ages since I've played both (on the Gamecube, no less). It's fair to say that I like Remake more (takes the #2 RE spot for me, while Zero takes the #7 spot), and also fair to admit that I only ever beat Remake with Jill.

That said, based on my experiences, I'd say that Zero is actually easier than Remake, but is far more frustrating for the reasons you point out. With Remake, I never felt too overpowered. Zero didn't make me overpowered either to be fair, but I don't think there's any one particular section I had trouble with, whereas in Remake, I never lost a sense of vulnerability.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Resident Evil 1 Remake, Chris Redfield in Real Surivival mode veteran here.

Neither really, IMO the hardest PRE RE-4 Resident Evil games is Resident Evil 3 (On Hard Mode), Code Veronica, and Outbreak.

 

[Hawki]

Resident Evil 1 Remake, Christ Redfield

CHRIST Redfield? 0_0

IMO the hardest PRE RE-4 Resident Evil games is Resident Evil 3 (On Hard Mode), Code Veronica, and Outbreak.

Outbreak and Code Veronica I'll give you, not so much RE3. I'd say its Hard mode is equivilant to normal mode, all things considered. It's certainly harder than RE2 though.

And the less said about its easy mode the better...

 

[dscross]

Resident Evil 1 Remake, Christ Redfield in Real Surivival mode veteran here.

Neither really, IMO the hardest PRE RE-4 Resident Evil games is Resident Evil 3 (On Hard Mode), Code Veronica, and Outbreak.

I bet you are just used to them dude - it sounds like you've played them a lot. cast your mind back to your first ever play through. RE3 isn't hard (hard mode is just normal mode). It's more panic inducing than hard because of nemi. CV everyone says is hard. There are some bits that are a bit I suppose but I think it's just long rather than difficult. I didn't struggle, just had to knuckle down and finish it. REmake has harder elements in it I think. Everything is easy when you know how.

I've never played Outbreak. Worth it?

 

[Hawki]

I've never played Outbreak. Worth it?

I'm mixed on Outbreak myself. Outbreak and Outbreak File 2 take the #10 and 11 RE positions for me respectively. There's a lot going for it, but a lot against it as well.

On the one hand, Outbreak (and by Outbreak I mean both games, File 2 is basically just an expansion for the first) is perhaps the most survival horror-esque game in the series. I mean, sure, the series is survival horror in of itself, but Outbreak goes a step beyond. The game's tough - enemies keep coming, ammo is very scarce, you have to rely on every day items a lot, and the characters are average joes caught up in the Raccoon City Outbreak. Each character also has unique pros and cons, and while none of them are particuarly deep, they do each have their own personality.

On the other hand, Outbreak suffers in the presentation department. There's a bit of an overall story (more so in File 1, in File 2 the scenarios are far less connected), but really it's just a bunch of scenarios thrown together with hardly anything linking them. The graphics are pretty under-par, even for the era, and if you're invested in the overall story of Resident Evil, Outbreak is almost completely tangental. It doesn't really tell us anything that we didn't already know, and to my knowledge, only one of the playable characters has ever been referenced outside the game. It also doesn't help that the voice acting and computer AI are wonky, and that the PS2 no longer has online play.

To be honest, Outbreak would benefit a lot more from a remake than RE2, but as it is, it's kind of a flawed gem. I think there's great potential in Outbreak's style of gameplay, but taking it as it is, it's an enjoyable, albeit flawed game.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I've never played Outbreak. Worth it?

Just for the intro FMV of the first one, but you can watch that on YouTube.

I might run through Zero again... but not if it's as frustrasting as I remember.

Well then, get ready to not run through Zero, because that hasn't changed. The item and partner mamagement is still a giant pain in the ass. It's not difficult, just a huge hassle for absolutely zero pay-off.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

I've never played Outbreak. Worth it?

I'm mixed on Outbreak myself. Outbreak and Outbreak File 2 take the #10 and 11 RE positions for me respectively. There's a lot going for it, but a lot against it as well.

On the one hand, Outbreak (and by Outbreak I mean both games, File 2 is basically just an expansion for the first) is perhaps the most survival horror-esque game in the series. I mean, sure, the series is survival horror in of itself, but Outbreak goes a step beyond. The game's tough - enemies keep coming, ammo is very scarce, you have to rely on every day items a lot, and the characters are average joes caught up in the Raccoon City Outbreak. Each character also has unique pros and cons, and while none of them are particuarly deep, they do each have their own personality.

On the other hand, Outbreak suffers in the presentation department. There's a bit of an overall story (more so in File 1, in File 2 the scenarios are far less connected), but really it's just a bunch of scenarios thrown together with hardly anything linking them. The graphics are pretty under-par, even for the era, and if you're invested in the overall story of Resident Evil, Outbreak is almost completely tangental. It doesn't really tell us anything that we didn't already know, and to my knowledge, only one of the playable characters has ever been referenced outside the game. It also doesn't help that the voice acting and computer AI are wonky, and that the PS2 no longer has online play.


To be honest, Outbreak would benefit a lot more from a remake than RE2, but as it is, it's kind of a flawed gem. I think there's great potential in Outbreak's style of gameplay, but taking it as it is, it's an enjoyable, albeit flawed game.

Let me respond about this:

Under Par Graphics? IMO they are one of the better looking PS2 games ever in terms of "Realistic" Graphics. Only Metal Gear Solid 3 is king in that department.

AI I can give you and the only way to mitigate their stupidity is to keep them in "Follow" mode at all times, but I remember times where the AI things that was surprisingly helpful like giving me a very important key item.

And yes the game is the most survival oriented of the games. You have a Virus counter where in single player you die, but in Co-Op you straight up turn into a Zombie to kill your friends, Item Inventory is the lowest its ever been (4 slots, but has 8 if you play as Yoko even though she is the weakest character)

And I love the fact that all characters have unique abilities, the Police Officer Kevin has a 45. M1911 and can get a auto headshot by holding down on his gun and he can kick, he's the most combat oriented of the characters.

The enviorments are varied and very open ended. I mean here you can kick/smash doors open if you want to without the need to find a key (but it takes awhile to break it open)

I have a more love than hate relation with Outbreak because imo this game should be done again, Left 4 Dead is no where near as deep as Outbreak.

 

[dscross]

Well then, get ready to not run through Zero, because that hasn't changed. The item and partner mamagement is still a giant pain in the ass. It's not difficult, just a huge hassle for absolutely zero pay-off.

Some of it might have been mismanagement of items though last time I played because I was so used to the box system. I've heard people using an interconnecting room to store most of their items in and essentially using that as their ineventory box / save room. A little cumbersome, but I'm sure it would make it a lot easier.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Well then, get ready to not run through Zero, because that hasn't changed. The item and partner mamagement is still a giant pain in the ass. It's not difficult, just a huge hassle for absolutely zero pay-off.

Some of it might have been mismanagement of items though last time I played because I was so used to the box system. I've heard people using an interconnecting room to store most of their items in and essentially using that as their ineventory box / save room. A little cumbersome, but I'm sure it would make it a lot easier.

Could be, but even then you're still dealing with a lesser REmake, with one of the most worthless endings I think I've ever seen in a game. The train bit is cool enough, since we've never seen that setting in Resi before, but after that... ugh.

 

[CaitSeith]

ReMake. Three words: Freaking Crimson Heads!

 

[dscross]

Well then, get ready to not run through Zero, because that hasn't changed. The item and partner mamagement is still a giant pain in the ass. It's not difficult, just a huge hassle for absolutely zero pay-off.

Some of it might have been mismanagement of items though last time I played because I was so used to the box system. I've heard people using an interconnecting room to store most of their items in and essentially using that as their ineventory box / save room. A little cumbersome, but I'm sure it would make it a lot easier.

Could be, but even then you're still dealing with a lesser REmake, with one of the most worthless endings I think I've ever seen in a game. The train bit is cool enough, since we've never seen that setting in Resi before, but after that... ugh.

Haha. You really hate Zero. It isn't THAT bad. It's loads better than most of the spin offs that I've played I think.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Haha. You really hate Zero. It isn't THAT bad. It's loads better than most of the spin offs that I've played I think.

Well, I don't hate it -- it's not Resident Evil 6 after all. And I might even like it a tad more than Code Veronica just for the prerendered backgrounds alone. But overall Zero just feels like such a waste of time. It doesn't feel like it adds anything, and that ending has the characters basically saying 'Well, that happened, Now lets never speak of it again.' You can take that game out of the cannon and you wouldn't even miss it.

ReMake. Three words: Freaking Crimson Heads!

Once you're familiar with the game the crimson heads become pretty easy to avoid though. I think I only need to burn zombies about 4 times (granted I make sure to have atleast two killed ontop of eachother in any area with more than one) near the start, and after that I just have to deal with two crimson heads, including the one in the coffin.

 

[dscross]

Haha. You really hate Zero. It isn't THAT bad. It's loads better than most of the spin offs that I've played I think.

Well, I don't hate it -- it's not Resident Evil 6 after all. And I might even like it a tad more than Code Veronica just for the prerendered backgrounds alone.

With 6, I literally got past the first little bit and decided it wasn't for me. I put up with 5 all the way through because it was Resident Evil. But 6... it is the only one in the main series I just can't bring myself to play. I LOVE CV.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Resident Evil 1 Remake, Christ Redfield

CHRIST Redfield? 0_0

I have no idea how I ended up typing that

 

[Major_Tom]

IMO the hardest PRE RE-4 Resident Evil games is Resident Evil 3 (On Hard Mode), Code Veronica, and Outbreak.

Outbreak and Code Veronica I'll give you, not so much RE3. I'd say its Hard mode is equivilant to normal mode, all things considered. It's certainly harder than RE2 though.

And the less said about its easy mode the better...

I always felt like pre-Director's Cut original was the hardest RE. They really nerfed the hunters in the Remake.

 

[dscross]

IMO the hardest PRE RE-4 Resident Evil games is Resident Evil 3 (On Hard Mode), Code Veronica, and Outbreak.

Outbreak and Code Veronica I'll give you, not so much RE3. I'd say its Hard mode is equivilant to normal mode, all things considered. It's certainly harder than RE2 though.

And the less said about its easy mode the better...

I always felt like pre-Director's Cut original was the hardest RE. They really nerfed the hunters in the Remake.

Why pre directors cut? I have played both but can't remember the difference between the original and directors cut?

 

[Major_Tom]

Why pre directors cut? I have played both but can't remember the difference between the original and directors cut?

Japanese version of the original was easier (more ammo and ink ribbons, weaker enemies, auto-aim) than NA and EU versions, DC only has the Japanese difficulty regardless of region. In addition to that, new DC Beretta has a higher rate of fire and an instant-kill-critical chance.