Is your Mac at risk.

[Lilchux]

Yeah the Pc was terrible, he's aaaaalways having to reinstall it - I even bought a Windows laptop to begin with but nope, that was riddled with viruses in under 12 months and I had Norton and the usual Windows firewall running at full pelt.

I think my dads has 2GB memory but I think it's the processors that are crappy because it just makes this horrible crunching noise when you try and do anything!

2GB Memory on Vista is most likely the problem right there. Though I suppose the counter-argument is that Macs don't need that much. Hehe.

But anyway! The virus problem is more an inherent problem with the Windows Firewall and Norton. Norton might as well not be running for all the good it usually does, and it will royally screw a computer you try to uninstall it from. I say use Avast! If you ever get another Windows machine. Works WAAAAAY better, its free, and does all the nifty things that Norton SAYS that it does.

So all in all, I guess Macs are more secure, no one tries to hack them. But Avast does a pretty good job of keeping a Windows machine safe.

 

[afaceforradio]

Oh it wasn't vista, it was XP

Norton is rubbish I'd never recommend it to anyone!

 

[The King And His Fool]

Hurray! A pc vs mac flame war!
Like we haven't had those before yet.

Is it that inconceivable to some that some people just like working with a mac because of it's OS? It it hard to image people actually do prefer the look for a mac over half a refrigerator PC or a plastic lunch box laptop?
Do you know that there are people that actually do work with both windows and os X because they believe they both have their merits and obviously flaws?

Macs have had nothing other OS's haven't had to deal with before. Oh, it's now hackable, big whoop! I'm sure Windows will now gloat over OS X's demise if it got some resources to spare that aren't dedicated to running several firewalls, anti-viruses and spyware removers. Yes, if only them mac-boys could count themselves so lucky...

Dear god, I thought we'd be smarter by now.

Hey, this looks suspiciously pro-mac.. I do own both though, I prefer mac for working, got a power hungry windows monster for my.. uh.. entertainment and other geekery.

 

[Motti]

Hurray! A pc vs mac flame war!
Like we haven't had those before yet.

Is it that inconceivable to some that some people just like working with a mac because of it's OS? It it hard to image people actually do prefer the look for a mac over half a refrigerator PC or a plastic lunch box laptop?
Do you know that there are people that actually do work with both windows and os X because they believe they both have their merits and obviously flaws?

Of course not, that would require empathy or (god forbid!) some intelligence!

 

[akmarksman]

Spoiler

anytime someone mentions how "safe" or whatever their mac is..this image always pops up in my mind since I saw it years ago.

EDIT:
FOUND the one I was looking for..

 

[cordeos]

these threads are funny considering both companies need each other, if either one went away the other would be a monopoly and have to be broken up. I personally use a PC because I'm a gamer. also this:

 

[afaceforradio]

I have heard before alot of PC users whining that Macs are no good for gaming - last I heard they weren't designed for huge WAGAMAMAMPORGERS, they're designed for working and photoshopping and stuff.

Can't we all just get along? It's like motherboard racism. Yeesh.

 

[The King And His Fool]

Haha,

It's like motherboard racism. Yeesh.

But.. my bios is better than yours!

Anyway, in case you haven't seen [A HREF=http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary]the latest mac revolution[/A]. Yes, windowzers, you know you want one, don't ya?

 

[afaceforradio]

Haha,

It's like motherboard racism. Yeesh.

But.. my bios is better than yours!

Anyway, in case you haven't seen [A HREF=http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary]the latest mac revolution[/A]. Yes, windowzers, you know you want one, don't ya?

Hehe, this is like the invisible iphone! ^_^

 

[akmarksman]

I have heard before alot of PC users whining that Macs are no good for gaming - last I heard they weren't designed for huge WAGAMAMAMPORGERS, they're designed for working and photoshopping and stuff.

Can't we all just get along? It's like motherboard racism. Yeesh.

If computers put out horsepower ratings like cars..do you know how much HP it takes to do photoshop tasks?

my mom has a 1999 450Mhz PowerMac G4 "Yosemite" with I think a..LVD SCSI 13kRPM hard drive and it takes AGES for her to do anything..and the machine is almost maxed out at 1.8GB of PC133 SDRAM...

A "gaming" rig will usually have at least 2GB of RAM..and it'll have either a dual or quad core processor setup..so in essence your PC gamers could do photoshop tasks (gaussian blur) as easily as one setup for just graphics/photoshop work.

I remember reading that having the 2nd video card in your SLi/CrossFire rig could be used as a physx card co-processor or something like that..and it could help take the load off the processor..

 

[afaceforradio]

I have noticed that pretty much everything on a Mac takes up more space, more RAM etc, but I just personally like them better. My Mac's quiet, it runs nice and fast has a tonne of hard drive space, does it's job, is great for watching films, my desk isn't cluttered (come on, Windows folk, you have to admit, having a minimal approach is much tidier - I couldn't physically fit a tower block without having it on top of my desk - no thanks! and as for all those wires...)

 

[The King And His Fool]

Macintosh just preys on the computer illiterate. Even if you ACTUALLY LIKE their OS, do yourself a favor, build your own computer and load it on to there (if you can, I've never heard of anyone trying that, big surprise).

You shouldn't base your own opinions on hearsay.

Explain to me how OS X is for the computer illiterate, while windows is not? What about linux?
Is it because windows uses this abomination called "Registry" which noone knows anything about and most people dare not and should not touch with a ten feet stick?

Also, people do put OS X on their non-apple machines. It has an entire scene. Legal? Not exactly. Easy, not really. But possible, provided that you pick the right hardware.

I also think that most people who buy a mac don't buy them for the purpose of upgrading every year. Let's be fair, most people who buy a pc don't know enough to attempt upgrading either. They buy a brand 'ex. DELL) and after a few years, when the old one starts squeaking and looking blue, they get a new one.

Yeah, the Apple things are more expensive. You get something extra on the outside. Call if designer products if you want. You don't just pay extra for the logo, but also for how it looks. Less clutter as afaceforradio said. A pretty thing for your pretty desk in your pretty house if you're into that stuff.

Though I feel it doesn't really apply to their macbooks. Get a sony, dell, hp or whatever laptop that matches a macbook (pro)s specs, and you'll pay a lot for them too. Less, maybe, but it won't look as neat or , dare I say, pro.

 

[Sipo]

who would want to hack a crappy old mac

 

[akmarksman]

I've been tasked with upgrading 5 dell desktops..the upgrades went fine..no different than upgrading my old 2Ghz single core AMD with AGP graphics.

I've also done laptop repair (nothing more fun than taking apart a laptop all the way just to get to the power plug) and upgraded wifi/BT cards and RAM in laptops.

If you know what you are doing(my sister who's a RN, can't touch her settings in her wireless router without fuxing it up..) then usually it's ok..however if you don't know the first thing about computers other than what the salesperson told you..then stick to taking it to people who do know what they are doing.

If you do take it to someone you know that is knowledgeable,well what helps the MOST is stating the problem in as few as words as possible without resorting to calling components "that thing" "the doohickey"(where they usually plug their printer or scanner into)..Just say "Help me get more memory so my programs run faster"
or "I need more space for my artwork or pictures" or "I want to burn CDs or DVDs"

in as few words as possible
Keep it simple stupid

 

[megapenguinx]

Way to tell everyone where the flaw is located so people will take advantage of it now. I swear the media is retarded.....

I'm glad they did. Now, for everyone with a Mac, get off of Babys First Computer and get a REAL computer (Windows).

I'm on a Mac at this very instant

 

[Riding on Thermals]

Haha,

It's like motherboard racism. Yeesh.

But.. my bios is better than yours!

Anyway, in case you haven't seen [A HREF=http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary]the latest mac revolution[/A]. Yes, windowzers, you know you want one, don't ya?

Thanks for proving your point that the typical Mac user is pretentious, ignorant, and easily amused by gimmicks while defending the position that we shouldn't discriminate between the two platforms...
The video was funny though, I was laughing before it started at the source you routed me to.

::snip::

Um... I regedit pretty frequently. When uninstall routines don't remove everything, manual virus removal... regedit. My point is I like the ability to manually manage the registry. Sure, I only use it when I'm fixing a problem but that's the whole point. I have a much greater ability to fix software problems than a Mac user does, and since there's no computer immune to software issues this is kind of a big deal.

There's a whole culture devoted to putting HEMI engines on everyday objects, like lawnmowers. There's niche appeal for everything.

I agree that the average PC user doesn't custom build their rig and isn't interested in compulsive upgrades, but they can more easily upgrade. When I upgraded my home network to Wireless N I wanted to be able to utilize the upgrade on my laptop so I bought an expresscard. There's not PC card slot on a Macbook Pro.

Also, if we're going to operate on conjecture instead of published fact I'd like to point out that the way Apple releases a new version of their Macbook every year is designed exactly for people to sell the old version and buy the new because it's trendier. Their hardware does seem to hold up longer however.

If you're the kind of person who prides themselves on owning designer products... well, there's really no talking sense to you in the first place. And if you're buying your desktop for its aesthetics you're doing it wrong.
Finally, to the numbers:
I just bought a Sony FW series for 1,616$ including a 3 year warranty with accidental damage coverage and tax. it looks like this

Spoiler: Sony FW

To me the aesthetics aren't that big of a deal, but that's a pretty sexy laptop IMO
To get a Macbook Pro with the same (as close as possible) hardware I would have to spend 2,398$ before tax (and the warranty doesn't cover accidents). And yeah, it looks good:

Spoiler: Macbook PRO

But I forgot to mention: It has 2GB less memory, a lower resolution screen, no blu-ray support, and only a 512MB dedicated video card compared to my 1GB dedicated. So I don't care how good Macbook Pro's look, they aren't built to game and are WAY overpriced

 

[Mister Ash]

clever people, no-matter their system, don't get viruses (or, not as many)

retards DO get viruses.

It's quite simple really, No system is safe. so don't download any old shit, click links blindly, and use a little common sense. and even on Windows 98, you'll have a virus free time.

You sir, should be awarded something.

Don't people understand that by not being idiotic forms of life they can save people in the know a lot of trouble having to fix their computers by not being absolute retards?

I run a virus scanner on my Mac every week. It's not that they can't get infected, its just no body's bothered until now.

ah, but people being less thick, means less jobs for thick people reading a script, and would ruin the computer industry. therefore the manufacturers won't educate people.

 

[Mister Ash]

in as few words as possible
Keep it simple stupid

KISS. gotta love that.

that, and PEBKAC

 

[The King And His Fool]

Haha,

It's like motherboard racism. Yeesh.

But.. my bios is better than yours!

Anyway, in case you haven't seen [A HREF=http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary]the latest mac revolution[/A]. Yes, windowzers, you know you want one, don't ya?

Thanks for proving your point that the typical Mac user is pretentious, ignorant, and easily amused by gimmicks while defending the position that we shouldn't discriminate between the two platforms...

The video was funny though, I was laughing before it started at the source you routed me to.

::snip::

Um... I regedit pretty frequently. When uninstall routines don't remove everything, manual virus removal... regedit. My point is I like the ability to manually manage the registry. Sure, I only use it when I'm fixing a problem but that's the whole point. I have a much greater ability to fix software problems than a Mac user does, and since there's no computer immune to software issues this is kind of a big deal.

There's a whole culture devoted to putting HEMI engines on everyday objects, like lawnmowers. There's niche appeal for everything.

I agree that the average PC user doesn't custom build their rig and isn't interested in compulsive upgrades, but they can more easily upgrade. When I upgraded my home network to Wireless N I wanted to be able to utilize the upgrade on my laptop so I bought an expresscard. There's not PC card slot on a Macbook Pro.

Also, if we're going to operate on conjecture instead of published fact I'd like to point out that the way Apple releases a new version of their Macbook every year is designed exactly for people to sell the old version and buy the new because it's trendier. Their hardware does seem to hold up longer however.

If you're the kind of person who prides themselves on owning designer products... well, there's really no talking sense to you in the first place. And if you're buying your desktop for its aesthetics you're doing it wrong.
Finally, to the numbers:
I just bought a Sony FW series for 1,616$ including a 3 year warranty with accidental damage coverage and tax. it looks like this

Spoiler: Sony FW

To me the aesthetics aren't that big of a deal, but that's a pretty sexy laptop IMO
To get a Macbook Pro with the same (as close as possible) hardware I would have to spend 2,398$ before tax (and the warranty doesn't cover accidents). And yeah, it looks good:

Spoiler: Macbook PRO

But I forgot to mention: It has 2GB less memory, a lower resolution screen, no blu-ray support, and only a 512MB dedicated video card compared to my 1GB dedicated. So I don't care how good Macbook Pro's look, they aren't built to game and are WAY overpriced

I'm moving out to a place of my own. I went around looking for furniture in several stores. One of them had very modern stuff. Most of it, I found useless and kinda ugly, but it had some pretty nice things too. However I didn't spend alot of time in the store because everything was well over my budget and to me, not worth its money. Does that mean that people who do like it and are willing to cough up the money for those products are dumbasses who have no idea what they're doing?

You do not have a greater ability to fix problems because you have a clunky registry. Get that out of your mind. It's not because you know how to modify your registry, that most windows users do. It's not because your "typical' mac user doesn't know how to work in a terminal, that none of them do.

While it's true that apple releases a new model every year, be it a full upgrade or a silent update, I think that's what most brands do. It doesn't mean that everyone will upgrade the moment there's something new and slightly more pretty. Again, mac users don't buy with the intention to upgrade or in fact replace anytime soon.

But actually, you brought up THE point why the mac-haters hate mac and add some petty arguements to build their cases: macs aren't built to game.
It's true, they're not. It's not that they can't. Dual boot them to windows and they'll play games just fine. And when developpers actually do make an effort to make an OS X compatible version, it runs perfectly fine there too. But there are very little companies that do and instead we get some crappy ports and emulations for a handful of not so cool games. They're not all like blizzard...
In fact, let me rephrase the statement. Games aren't build to mac.

 

[Kodolb.]

"It only works on machines that have already been victimized, such as ones attacked with the pirated software. It can take control of Apple's Safari browser, logging passwords to financial accounts and data on bank statements, Dai Zovi said."

Translation: "If you install a program that is made to transfer your data to someone else, then your data might get sent to someone else." Stopped reading there.

I didn't stop reading there but I stopped worrying.

They had me for a minute... phew.

I got a Macbook 13'' Aluminum early this February, with 2.4Ghz, 4GB of RAM (upgraded it from 2GB) Nvidia 9400M using both OS X and Windows XP - for the best of both worlds

What I use XP for: Games. Only. No Exceptions. I don't even have an anti-virus program, although, I'm not worried at all, because I don't surf the web on XP. Ever.

What I use Mac for: Everything else. Editing movies, making my own music on Garageband, making easy websites, etc.
But not for downloading music (through Limewire) anymore, I installed updates this morning and the updates made my limewire program unusable.

*sad face*
At least I feel safer now knowing they're not stupid like EA.

Anyways why can't we just get all along?
There's always good things and bad things about Apple Products and Microsoft products.
like the iPhone 3G S, it's a toy, unlike the old iPhone, there's 3 new things that you could do this time!, you can now edit your videos through the iPhone! (by trimming your videos and ... uh.. a few other options? ), Voice Recognition! Give commands! Wow! It's something totally new and unheard of - nothing like those other phones are capable of hoho! No no!

and a Compass.. Man I laughed my ass of at www.apple.com where it says ''Let Compass point you in the right direction''
It seems iPhone users complain too much about getting lost in the forests and it was Apple's problem to do something about it.

I love and hate Macs and Windows because of their pro's and con's
The mac I got, I guess it was built for gaming, I played HL2:EP2 again, on really high quality settings, and you know what I've noticed?
Alyx wears a purple thong :0 - seriously.

If your just one of those people who just love to hate an OS without reason or just for the fun then you should shove your thumb up your ignorant arse.

Then we shall all live in peace. Macs, Windows - side by side. Together. United.
was joking about that..