Issue 23: Casual Friday - Hardcore Casual

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Joe Blancato"I was one of those kids who took a year off after high school, which is to say I spent a year working crappy retail jobs, drinking like a townie and playing videogames with a vengeance. I was bad." Joe Blancato details how his gaming habits changed with age.
 

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Original Comment by: Anon

Nice one Joe, that article struck me at my core (pun?).

Well the industry, or more specifically just Ninetendo, is already trying to target guys like us. I'm looking forward to the Revolution and if they have a killer casual game I will pick it up at launch (and don't be fooled if it comes in the form of Mario. Mario Bros was the first casual game, I'm still surprised it's not yet a flash game on a portal). I'm not even a Nintendo fanboy, the last Zelda game I played to completion was A Link to the Past, but what they will be offering for the next generation is the only thing that is fundamentally different from how I entertain myself now and therefore might be worth getting it the first chance I have.
 

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Joe, you guys need to come to my place some time and check out the Xbox Live arcade. Yes, I paid $400 for top of the line gaming technology to play Bejewelled 2. And Smash TV, and Gauntlet, and Joust, and a half dozen other $5-10 games that are all individually better than King Kong.

It's awesome - they're cheap, they all have demos, they're always on the console, so there's no need to change discs or anything - and they all look great and control perfectly. Of course, most importantly, they're fun.

And I can suck Autumn into playing them too - we went back and forth for a few hours at Bankshot Billiards the other day.
 

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Original Comment by: Greg Tito [contributor]
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I'm not sure if I agree with your final point, Joe. I think most everyone who is 22+, out of college, married or in a significant relationship falls under the casual hardcore set. Contrary to what the media portrays, I think that group of gamers is much bigger than the strictly hardcore set, and has been for a quite a while. I consider myself a casual hardcore myself (I usually play less than 10 hours a week, but I do still argue on message boards.)

The industry already caters to our specific set, there doesn't need to be a huge sweeping revolution. There will always be the few games that need the supa-powerful graphics cards that came out yesterday morning to work, but that can only lengthen their sales (if they sell at all) for the crowd that can only afford to play them a few years after they come out. And the truly successful games have found the secret to appealing to both hardcore and casual gamers (WOW, GTA, Halo, etc.).
 

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Original Comment by: Andrea Appel (a.k.a. Alexandra Erenhart)
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LOL Joe, you're everything I DON'T want to become and fighting against it. I'm 25, I'm (at last) finishing my university, I'm in a very serious relationship, and all I think about, is getting a new system to start playing top-of-the-line games (my pc is very old :S). And my fiancee is the same :p.

I think some people aren't made for the rush of modern hardcore gaming... Another one getting old, Julianne, you have a partner here :p

BTW, how would you call someone who plays all the "big" games mentioned, but still plays those "casual" games sometimes? I play everything that comes into my screen :p I devour games!! be them RPGs, action, FPSs, and Zuma!! I just love them all, I can't help it
 

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Mmmkay, I'm going to stick an excerpt from an earlier comment I made.

Bejewelled is fun, but it doesn't have the same draw. Those who grew up gaming know what an amazing experience a good game is. We need something that is more engrossing, but doesn't have a huge gameplay barrier to entry - or re-entry, for that matter. Whoever makes those games will bring in A LOT of gamers who are standing outside, looking enviously in at everyone else having fun.

I don't feel, because of too complex game mechanics, the industry DOES actually cater to us. The context of this quote was basically, has the casual hardcore lifestyle ever pulled you away from games for a couple of weeks? And then, you go back and can't remember how to play the game you were in the middle of two weeks ago? Not the main controls - moving, jumping, fighting, changing weapons, etc. I mean stuff that you only do once in a while, but are rather complex, things like customizing a weapon.

Things like that are neat, to give a richer gameplay experience, for those lucky ones who have the time. But making them necessary to gameplay is frustrating. I don't think it's a matter of only hardware, but design, too.
 

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Ok, I'm going to try to cover everyone in one big response.

Anon, glad you liked the article :). And yeah, I'm keeping a very, very watchful eye on what Nintendo is doing. They're evil geniuses, I swear.

Jason, yeah, I really gotta check out this whole Live! Arcade thing. When I was a kid, I always wanted those 101 Arcade Classics games Nintendo released, but never actually got around to picking them up. The initial investment is still a bit steep, though.

Greg, I agree when you say the industry is starting to take notice. I just hope things continue in a positive direction. Our generation is the largest since the Baby Boom, and when we get too old/busy to invest 70 hours into a game, those games just aren't going to sell like hotcakes anymore. It's an evolutionary necessity that the industry keeps focusing on us as the hardcore demographic diminishes.

Andrea, it's not so bad once you get used to it. I can read books again! :p
And I think you're a hardcore type. I'm pretty sure the game doesn't matter, but how much you put into it.

And Julianne, you sorta fall into where I am, but coming from the other direction. Until you brought it up in the office a few days ago, the concept a control scheme being foreign was completely lost on me. WASD and the Street Fighter control schemes are so ingrained in my muscle memory, they're just second nature, nowadays.
 

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Original Comment by: bishop

Good read.

I think this divide is very pronounced in the realm of MMORPGs. To an extent, the suggestion of "casual" almost seems to create resentment amongst the community.

I have to try hard to remind myself that gaming ultimately is a leisure activity, therefore inherently casual. It has to be, when i started to negotiate my life around my online character? It was time to say goodbye and move on.





 

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Original Comment by: Kara Japhet

Joe I think I agree with your argument. Shocking I know.

I find myself shelling out $50 for an MMO plus the $14.99 per month and I end up playing Mah Jong Solitaire, Snood or Magic Match (this game is thanks to you, I might add) instead. Why? Not because these are necessarily better games, that's subjective anyhow, but because of the time commitment invested.

I can pick up a casual game anytime, and I don't feel guilty for paying so much money up front and the additional subscription fees when I'm too busy to play them. And I don't want to feel like I *have* to play a game when I get home from a 10-12 hour day. Because sometimes all I want to do is read or watch TV.

Of course, this doesn't mean that I won't continue paying for my MMO. But that's just because I'm a sucker :)
 

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Original Comment by: Evil Timmy
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I find myself varying between periods of hardcore and 'hardcore casual' gaming. My most recent game in that vein has been a game that could be a posted child for hardcore casual itself, Space Rangers 2. If you haven't heard of it, it's an action-RPG-turn-based-space-text-adventure-trading-RTS game, all rolled into one. When I feel like a short fix of gaming, because I've got limited time, or just don't feel like delving into a game, it's great for a quick pick-up. I can fly around a bit, trade, hunt down pirates, jump into a wormhole and get some old-school arcade action, pick a certain mission and fight a land battle on a planet, or do any number of things, and there's really not anything that takes more than a half-hour block before hitting a point where I can save the game and get on with my life. The other nice thing about it is that I can copy the savegame to my laptop and play it on the train on the way to work (or out wherever), and even that amount of time is enough to accomplish something.

Maybe that's what the 'hardcore casual' gamer needs: something playable in short spans of time, and rewarding in that amount of time because of the basic gameplay mechanics, but something that also develops over time, giving you the overall sense of accomplishment missing from so many of the casual arcadey games that seem to be drawing such a big audience these days.
 

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Original Comment by: Mark

I like marathon gaming. Or, rather, I like a game that changes as you play, a game that remains interesting whether you're just playing it for ten minutes or ten hours. I want a game that I can pick up, but that's hard to put down.

Games for the "hardcore" are games that are hard to put down. Games for the "casual" are games that are easy to pick up. I don't like being forced to choose. Most big-name releases these days have too steep a barrier for entry, but I simply can not play most casual games (I've found three exceptions: Tetris, Panel de Pon, and Sudoku) for more than fifteen minutes without being beginning to feel the monotony. But, at the same time, I wasn't able to beat Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, because if I put it down for more than a day, I would forget what all the buttons did. And I didn't like The Sims.

Casual games present a problem because when I only have fifteen minutes, I'll spend it reading or listening to music or maybe writing. The only times that it ever occurs to me to play a game are in those hours-long stretches where Zuma or the latest clone of Bust-A-Move just isn't going to cut it. (I manage to make this time by not watching TV, in case you were wondering). These hours-long stretches aren't flukes; even being a full-time student hasn't stopped them.

Fortunately, I'm relatively young - only been playing games seriously for the past eight years or so - and so I've got a twenty-year backlog to look to for the games that can grab and keep my interest. Unfortunately, that's starting to run dry, and more than a few aren't living up to the expectations. Is there anyone (besides Nintendo and its second parties, who by and large I've found dependable) who regularly makes games like that any more?
 

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Original Comment by: Alex Billington
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I generally don?t have an urge to comment on most gaming articles openly, but I read this and felt almost required to do so. It?s not at all that I am in disagreement with your statements or definition of your own genre ?casual hardcore,? but more of a shock at my own situation in comparison to your life as detailed in the beginning of the article. No, I?m not a hardcore gamer to the extreme spending all day gaming (well, possibly recently due to the Xbox 360 and its addicting grasp), however I am a college student and I am fairly well involved in the gaming industry beyond simply ?playing them all day long.?

I am always devastated at first to hear the stories from friends about ?oh I used to be the best at Counter-Strike,? and then how they hit college or found some other, as they refer to, ?more mature? interests, and moved away from gaming entirely. However, over time I?ve come to realize after meeting a handful of these so-mentioned people, that my ?desires? (for them) are more for the hope that I can still see these people gaming somewhere at sometime in their post-gaming life. Gladly you have affirmed this realization and it?s obvious that although the hardcore gamer genre is slowly losing its numbers, you still have a strong heart for gaming. I have attempted to determine a way to bring together (as I am involved with gaming events) these now ?casual hardcore? individuals and even just casual gamers and re-ignite some of that energy for hardcore gaming that they used to have. I know I can?t completely bring back any of them, but given that I do know there are gamers like you out there with the same previous gaming history, I have begun to take an encouraging step forward in finding that little bit of gaming left in them. I don?t really know if I have a point in this comment, as I am rarely this inclined to put such a response out about an article, but I can say what you have written was certainly a stimulating and satisfying article well worth the time to ?put down the controller? and read.
 

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Original Comment by: zorniki

Yo Joe!
That article hit me right where it should! I do in many ways feel kind of the same nostalgic feeling about the old days of gaming. Nowadays, I´m sometimes hiding away with my beloved DS only not to attract to much attention to my hobby. I went from the hardcore PC gamers edge to the hop-in-whenever-you-want-to handheld gamers terrain, without even noticing a single motivation drop in my everyday gaming life. I´m 28 right now, married to a lovely girl and I´m starting to build a house in spring 2006, equipped with all the technical stuff I´ll need for future gaming sessions. And even if I don´t want this to end, I expect a sudden decline of gaming time in about 2 years, when my first kid will be born (that´s how we planned it at least!).
I´m trying hard to keep the spirit alive these days! Your magazine does a terrific job in supporting that effort.

Greets from Austria!
zorniki
 

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Original Comment by: Nathaniel Givens

Awesome article! I guess in some ways I'm also a hardcore casual gamer. The difference is that I never had that year off to go nuts. Ever since I was in high school I loved games - but I could never afford a gaming PC or even a modern console. I managed to get my hands on a PS (original) about the time the xbox and PS2 were coming out, but I only had a handful of games to play it on.

The one thing that really stands in the way of my enjoying games, however, is the hardcore gamers. There are two ways I think they do this.

1. To be honest - they kick my butt. I used to love playing Tekken 3, but while I always had at least 1 part time job and sometimes as many as 3 while I was going through high school and college my brother and his friends took the opposite approach - never working when possibly avoidable. The result? When we all started playing Tekken 3 I owned them. I mean, it was a fair contest, but I was one of the best. Within a few months, however, they got not only better than me, but better to the point where I couldn't even win one game out of 100. They would all spend literally hours practicing, honing their skills, and gradually learning advanced combo's by musicle-memory. The same thing happened with Halo, and then with Halo 2. I love both games, and enjoyed playing them single-player (where I could play for 45 minutes or an hour a day and then save and get back to work). But the best was multi-player. Until my brother got xbox live (he was living with my parents, I was renting a house, he was 21 and barely graduated high school, I was 23 and finishing a mathematics major). Since he had virtually no responsibilities whatsoever and access to internet connection he spent probably 5-6 hours a day on xbox live. Pretty soon there was no point in my playing him either. I figured out the plasma pistol/battle rifle combo on my own, but after I taught him about it he spend 100's of hours practicing on line until it got the point where I was lucky to get 1 or 2 kills in a 25-kill death match.

Eventually he got hooked on WoW instead - and once he didn't play Xbox Live huge amounts of time anymore, I was able to hold my own in Halo2 again. So it's just not fun for people with real lives (married, full-time job, own a house, work a part time job, also starting my own company) who love games to play with gamers who have no competing priorities.

The other way gamers ruin things for non-hard core gamers is just their buying habits. They spend way more money per capita on games and thus we end up games like Final Fantasy that are epic storylines with awesome charaacters forever out of reach to casual gamers. I know the plots of most Final Fantasy games, and I've seen a good deal of the cut-scenes and story and I consider myself a fan of the series. I have a few banners up in my office, and several of the soundtracks on my computer. Yet I've never played a game to completion. When you have as much going on as someone with a real life does than by the fourth or fifth "random encounter" while you're trying to get from point A to point B you just realize you don't have timem for this. By the time you get back to the game - you literally can't remember where you are or what your supposed to be doing. So you sigh, eject the disk, and give it back to whomever you borrowed it from. But hardcore gamers thrive on the grind - I think it's a variant of OCD where they just can't rest until every stat is maxed.

And the sad thing is that contrary to what Bishop wrote gaming is NOT inherently casual. You're already starting to see pro-gamers. In a way I think this is a great development. It would suck to play a pick-up game of football if there was a chance that you'd be playing against players from the Colts or something. I mean, it sounds cool for a second, and then you realize what it actually means. But since we have pro-teams the players who dedicate their lives to the game rise to a highest level where the rest of us don't compete - we watch.

I preorded my xbox360 in July (still don't have it). It was going to be my first new console purchase. But I recently decided that there's no way I can justify spending $400 on a console and another couple hundred on games. So if I do get it before Christmas, it will be up on Ebay. My only hope now is the Nintendo Revolution. My favorite games are Unreal Tournament, Halo, WarcraftII, MarioKart, and StarFox. So I'm not looking for a pretty box that will play bejewelled, zuma, and collapse (although I do actually love zuma). I play real games - I just actually play them casually.

Props to the hardcore gamers for one thing, though. They are always pushing the envelope. I recently got a copy of Half Life 2, and the game is just beautiful. For that I can thank the same people willing to plop down more cash on a pair of video cards than I'm willing to spend on entire system. They may be crazy, but in a way the casual gamers depend on them as the trailblazers.
 

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Original Comment by: Dustin Hubbard
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Hah, this is me too and I've just recently realized it. At first I was afraid that my passion for gaming was dying and I was "growing up" or whatever. But like you said it's not that I don't still like games... I just have other things I like to do with my time now that I didn't so much have the opportunities to do say... 5 or even 10 years ago. I used to never read books, now that's also one of my hobbies. I like to go out and socialize at various places on the weekends with friends instead of sitting alone at home playing the latest greatest 80 hour RPG. I don't mean this in an elitist way at all, actually some of my friends that used to play game very little play them probably more than I do now. Though I do still enjoy keeping up with the industry, but more so the inner workings and intelligent discussions and articles you see from places on the web such as The Escapist. My nights of staying up till 4AM discussing games or posting on message boards is and has been over for a couple years. I always wondered why I quit doing it, wasn't a conscious decision just sorta happened. Anyway I could ramble on about this for hours but just thought I'd write and say, I'm in the same boat as you. It's kind of a weird position I didn't ever plan on being in... but i'm content and it's happened so I'll just keep going with it.
 

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Original Comment by: Slartibartfast

I personally am like, diametrically opposed to this. I finished college last december, and am looking into going back full-time in the fall of 06. I did not take any time off between highschool and college. So now I'm in this kinda crappy part of life, just working all the time, but I find myself hunting down games and equipment much more actively. Now that I have the money, I want to spoil myself and get a copy of Radiant Silvergun, buy the Genesis I never had, maybe buy that CD-i from a guy I know just for the collectibility of it. A new ds game every two weeks? Sure! Hell even buying a DS a year ago would have been unthinkable. Whenever I buy something I remember something a certain PvP character said a few years back: I'm employed and single with no dependents. Every day is Christmas for me. :-D