"It's Not Like I Reich You Or Anything"

[SuperScrub]

We should just fetishise the Hiroshima bombing. Then they'll see how disgusting and insensitive this really is.

Spoiler: You mean like this?

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Happened after the US women's football team lost the 2011 world cup final to Japan.

I wouldn't be suprised if this does not already exist in some way or another. Idolizing and romanticizing horrific past events is just what we do once we've enough distance to it and everyone to blame is long past.

We should never forget what happened in history but on the otherside takin' the piss out of it (this may be a weird way to do so) is also important.

See above, it does already exist.

Hnng! I think I'm going to have a heart attack. Too much ignorance and stupidity is like kryptonite to me.

 

[Drejer43]

honestly tho. If not for the holocaust, Hitler would have been a respected figure in history.

 

[lacktheknack]

honestly tho. If not for the holocaust, Hitler would have been a respected figure in history.

Probably not, actually. The man managed to lose in a truly spectacular fashion against Russia almost entirely through poor supply planning. That's impressive in all the wrong ways. It's like being known as "that guy who went camping during the wet season without a tent or sleeping bag". Plus, by all accounts, he was a pretty poor tactician to boot. He was charismatic, but so is any given Banana Republic dictator.

 

[sageoftruth]

I wonder how successful it would be to make a dating sim that consisted entirely of charming young men who were all actually horrible people.

Player: "Oh, who should I choose? The serial killer is so dark and mysterious, but the dictator is so passionate, especially when we talk about genocide."

 

[Naturally Sound]

The Roman Empire isn't actually romanticized as much as more recent empires. I mean, have you seen some of the stuff based on the history of North America? Pocahontas and things like that?

Thank goodness the America colonization and the near mass genocide of the Native Americans isn't romanticized yet. But as other posters pointed out, Japan will likely get to it first without knowing/acknowledging how terrible such events were.

thats because it was aready romanticed in the past during 50-70 movies after that it turned into bad thing. (seriously just try to find any movie that was about america colonization from that time and the message is quite clear)

Welp that does help explain America's pride. Nations' civilizations that aren't exposed to their own greater travesties and demonize others nation civilizations without knowing the while story is just shows how powerful ignorance and bigotry is - it will shape history.

Seriously, while I'm only 1/3 Cherokee, I exhibit a lot of Native American traits/stereotypes and after learning what my people and not just my tribe have been through over 300 years ago, I'm surprised we're not entitled assholes that are about to die off as a whole.

 

[Drejer43]

honestly tho. If not for the holocaust, Hitler would have been a respected figure in history.

Probably not, actually. The man managed to lose in a truly spectacular fashion against Russia almost entirely through poor supply planning. That's impressive in all the wrong ways. It's like being known as "that guy who went camping during the wet season without a tent or sleeping bag". Plus, by all accounts, he was a pretty poor tactician to boot. He was charismatic, but so is any given Banana Republic dictator.

I didnt say he would have been respected as a general.

 

[lacktheknack]

honestly tho. If not for the holocaust, Hitler would have been a respected figure in history.

Probably not, actually. The man managed to lose in a truly spectacular fashion against Russia almost entirely through poor supply planning. That's impressive in all the wrong ways. It's like being known as "that guy who went camping during the wet season without a tent or sleeping bag". Plus, by all accounts, he was a pretty poor tactician to boot. He was charismatic, but so is any given Banana Republic dictator.

I didnt say he would have been respected as a general.

Why on Earth would he be a respected historical figure, then? If he hadn't committed atrocious war crimes, then he'd be known as "that asshole that went to war with everyone and failed".

About his only accomplishment at that point would be "helped Germany recover from their dire economic straits", which is noble enough, but that would have been badly overshadowed by being "that asshole who went to war with everyone and failed".

 

[Childe]

The most distrubing thing about this whole reich thing is that there is nothing redeemable about them. The roman empire might have done horrible things but they also made massive technological improvements for water management, roads and other things to make life better for the normal person. The Third Reich, gave nothing of value and left nothing of value. That there already being turned into bishie games is kinda annoying.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Its just a matter of time before the pants return.

YES, YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE WEARING FASCIST POOFY PANTS SOMEDAY!

 

[kuolonen]

The most distrubing thing about this whole reich thing is that there is nothing redeemable about them. The roman empire might have done horrible things but they also made massive technological improvements for water management, roads and other things to make life better for the normal person. The Third Reich, gave nothing of value and left nothing of value. That there already being turned into bishie games is kinda annoying.

Rockets that sent people to space are mostly based on the Nazi-Germany scientists efforts, jet aircraft and a lot of advances in medical field (through horrifically inhumane research) are on the list of technological advancements they brought forth. And since you brought up roads, autobahn was also a Nazi project. Peas in pod.

If reich had lasted as long as the Roman empire, who knows? Maybe it had advanced as much or more as the Romans. Or maybe father of invention is greed for money in which case life we currently live is the most advanced, but that is just a guessing game.

 

[Queen Michael]

Next up, My Little Third Reich, where the Nazi 6 discover that friendship and genocide go hand in hand.

*sings*
My little third Reich! I used to wonder what juden could be!
My little third reich! Until you all shared...
I'd go on, but I'd get banned, and deservedly so.

 

[Buckshaft]

Next up, My Little Third Reich, where the Nazi 6 discover that friendship and genocide go hand in hand.

....Don't give them ideas.

 

[Buckshaft]

Not that I wish to imply anything about the Japanese and their relationship with 20th century history, but the Textbook Controversies combined with Japan's lack of willingness to discuss or even be associated with that period of history might be creating an air of mystery or rebelliousness that leads to such "chic" Becoming popular (Stuff like Girls und Panzer, and all that sort of WW2 fiction.)

 

[Ratty]

You know this is already kind of happening

"$45,000 Li'l Fuhrer" card stretch goal? MET.

 

[Tarfeather]

Don't get worn, I like Japan, and I have German ancestry, so it's not like I hate them all for these mistakes of their pasts. It would just be nice if they were more upfront about it.

Who? I'm assuming you mean the Japanese. In Germany there kinda is the problem of being a little too "upfront" about it, e.g. denying holocaust is a crime, and this comic would also be a problem to publish because it depicts a swastika.

The "post-war generation", that is the children of the "nazis" who hadn't experienced these things themselves, were very concerned about how their "parents" tried to kinda sweep the whole thing under the rug, and a lot of discussion happened back then. At this point, germans are hyper-aware of anything that even smells of National Socialism, which incidentally is why there is very low level of popular support for the Middle Eastern wars.

 

[Imp_Emissary]

Don't get worn, I like Japan, and I have German ancestry, so it's not like I hate them all for these mistakes of their pasts. It would just be nice if they were more upfront about it.

Who? I'm assuming you mean the Japanese. In Germany there kinda is the problem of being a little too "upfront" about it, e.g. denying holocaust is a crime, and this comic would also be a problem to publish because it depicts a swastika.

The "post-war generation", that is the children of the "nazis" who hadn't experienced these things themselves, were very concerned about how their "parents" tried to kinda sweep the whole thing under the rug, and a lot of discussion happened back then. At this point, germans are hyper-aware of anything that even smells of National Socialism, which incidentally is why there is very low level of popular support for the Middle Eastern wars.

More about the Japanese talking about what they did to China in WW2, but I think you mistook what I meant. I don't want them or the Germans to be upfront about denying these things. Like I said, that's kind of the issue. They should be willing to talk about the bad things they've done and not deny them being bad, or existing.

I don't see any country, mine included, not talking about the mistakes of their past and accepting them as such, and being able to move on without a sense of shame. I imagine trying to "sweep the whole thing under the rug", is done in part to avoid the embarrassment of the past. Such is understandable, but it won't work.

 

[dubious_wolf]

working my way throughout the critical miss back log, so sorry for possible necro's.
BUT HOLY S***
That's f***ed up!

How culturally insensitive can we get?